Graffkid732: Voltex Kit, Stroked 3.4L GT47-88 2jz Getrag 6 Speed 350z build
11-30-2012, 05:11 PM
#83
It happens I suppose. hah
Thanks bro
Couldn't find one any smaller
Manifold kind of reminds me of the SP Manifold which they have made for the 240 they just built. Same intake manifold, similar engine, and SP Manifold with a Promod 94mm. Made 1400+whp with injectors being the limiting factor. SP offers multiple configurations which I like. Most likely going to take measurements and see which config will best suit the car.
Unfortunately I do not know if a $4,000 turbo will be in my future.
We will see what happens. Appreciate the suggestions though. I am going to look into that setup a bit more.
Vids of 240 "Lambo Killer"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=srTo5dIGNto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ojdaMSSkmes
Thanks broCouldn't find one any smaller
this http://powerhouseracing.com/p-4604-p...-manifold.aspx and promod 88mm to go with your huge TB and IC
Unfortunately I do not know if a $4,000 turbo will be in my future.
We will see what happens. Appreciate the suggestions though. I am going to look into that setup a bit more.Vids of 240 "Lambo Killer"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=srTo5dIGNto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ojdaMSSkmes
Last edited by graffkid732; 11-30-2012 at 05:12 PM.
11-30-2012, 10:14 PM
#84
Unfortunately I do not know if a $4,000 turbo will be in my future.
We will see what happens. Appreciate the suggestions though. I am going to look into that setup a bit more.Vids of 240 "Lambo Killer"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=srTo5dIGNto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ojdaMSSkmes
Big turbos man, they ain't cheap!
12-02-2012, 01:10 PM
#88
Well I didn't plan on running a cell, was just going to use the stock tank and contact CJM and see what we can come up with for a fuel pump hanger for in tank pumps.
I talked to both Titan and Sound Performance, both being HUGE names in the Supra / 2jz scene and both said:
"Weldon 2345
dial a flow
voltage controller"
With running primary and secondary filters.
6 large injectors 2000s or 2150s. Plan was to run Twin 044s for pump gas and then out of boost driving while on high boost. Then use the Weldon when needed. Problem with the Weldon is it's a drag racing pump, it's not made for continuous use which causes them to fail/burn out. I would rather spend a few extra dollars running a setup like that instead of hoping I don't burn out my only fuel pump. If I had to replace the Weldon, in the end it would have probably cost the about same to run 2 044s and Weldon.
Hope that helps. I am all for you guys giving options/opinions/advice, there are plenty of times I miss something or simply don't think of it. So I do appreciate all of the help that everyone has given me on both forums and the shops.
12-02-2012, 02:29 PM
#92
Dual 044's honestly should be more then up to the task with 2150 injectors off the top of my head with 46.5 psi base pressure and 85% injector duty cycle they can support around 1300 or so hp at the engine on e85. The lower pressure means the dual bosch pumps should easily keep up. If don't wanna run a cell I might have my integrated engineering surge tank for sale soon would just need w/e in tank u wanna run and the dual 044's. I'm heavily considering swapping to a cell for easier configuration and simpler wiring of new guages to ditch oem electronics. My 255 in the modified stock basket would be for sale too of course(modded for cjm return correction) I've never had a issue with this setup even running down to 1/8th tank before just leme know.
Well I didn't plan on running a cell, was just going to use the stock tank and contact CJM and see what we can come up with for a fuel pump hanger for in tank pumps.
I talked to both Titan and Sound Performance, both being HUGE names in the Supra / 2jz scene and both said:
"Weldon 2345
dial a flow
voltage controller"
With running primary and secondary filters.
6 large injectors 2000s or 2150s. Plan was to run Twin 044s for pump gas and then out of boost driving while on high boost. Then use the Weldon when needed. Problem with the Weldon is it's a drag racing pump, it's not made for continuous use which causes them to fail/burn out. I would rather spend a few extra dollars running a setup like that instead of hoping I don't burn out my only fuel pump. If I had to replace the Weldon, in the end it would have probably cost the about same to run 2 044s and Weldon.
Hope that helps. I am all for you guys giving options/opinions/advice, there are plenty of times I miss something or simply don't think of it. So I do appreciate all of the help that everyone has given me on both forums and the shops.
I talked to both Titan and Sound Performance, both being HUGE names in the Supra / 2jz scene and both said:
"Weldon 2345
dial a flow
voltage controller"
With running primary and secondary filters.
6 large injectors 2000s or 2150s. Plan was to run Twin 044s for pump gas and then out of boost driving while on high boost. Then use the Weldon when needed. Problem with the Weldon is it's a drag racing pump, it's not made for continuous use which causes them to fail/burn out. I would rather spend a few extra dollars running a setup like that instead of hoping I don't burn out my only fuel pump. If I had to replace the Weldon, in the end it would have probably cost the about same to run 2 044s and Weldon.
Hope that helps. I am all for you guys giving options/opinions/advice, there are plenty of times I miss something or simply don't think of it. So I do appreciate all of the help that everyone has given me on both forums and the shops.
Last edited by jerryd87; 12-02-2012 at 02:32 PM.
12-02-2012, 02:37 PM
#93
Dual 044's honestly should be more then up to the task with 2150 injectors off the top of my head with 46.5 psi base pressure and 85% injector duty cycle they can support around 1300 or so hp at the engine on e85. The lower pressure means the dual bosch pumps should easily keep up. If don't wanna run a cell I might have my integrated engineering surge tank for sale soon would just need w/e in tank u wanna run and the dual 044's. I'm heavily considering swapping to a cell for easier configuration and simpler wiring of new guages to ditch oem electronics. My 255 in the modified stock basket would be for sale too of course(modded for cjm return correction) I've never had a issue with this setup even running down to 1/8th tank before just leme know.
12-02-2012, 03:17 PM
#94
You're putting a fully built 2j and gt47 in your car. That's enough air and bottom end for 1400whp (isn't that the area you're going for?). If you run 044's use a minimum 3. One theoretically pushes out to 670ish at the crank. On e85 that number is going to be lower.
I follow the mindset that you should pick a pump that can go above and beyond what power you want to make. Most shops agree with that idea, hence why they suggested to you a 1000$ fuel pump. I personally would run twin a1000's on your setup without worry.
At your power levels the last thing I'd want to worry about is my fuel system. That's my perspective, and I'm sure others will disagree but I wouldn't run anything less than a very serious pump.
EDIT:
I reread and saw your idea about using 044's for daily. I still would pick a1000's. They would be fine on the street, and will definitely get you to high boost.
I follow the mindset that you should pick a pump that can go above and beyond what power you want to make. Most shops agree with that idea, hence why they suggested to you a 1000$ fuel pump. I personally would run twin a1000's on your setup without worry.
At your power levels the last thing I'd want to worry about is my fuel system. That's my perspective, and I'm sure others will disagree but I wouldn't run anything less than a very serious pump.
EDIT:
I reread and saw your idea about using 044's for daily. I still would pick a1000's. They would be fine on the street, and will definitely get you to high boost.
Last edited by Resmarted; 12-02-2012 at 03:21 PM.
12-02-2012, 03:56 PM
#95
044's push FAR more power then that, that's barely more then a walbro 255, at 46.5 the walbro flows about 15% less so it makes sense but we are running boosted vehicles, with that 46.5 even at a measly 20 psi the bosch jumps to 30% more flow then the walbro. That 670 is more like 670 to the wheels I've even heard of people making around 650 to the wheels on e85 with a single 044 although I don't know the specifics. if going for 1400 whp it won't be enough but should be fine for 1100 to the wheels mayby 1200.
You're putting a fully built 2j and gt47 in your car. That's enough air and bottom end for 1400whp (isn't that the area you're going for?). If you run 044's use a minimum 3. One theoretically pushes out to 670ish at the crank. On e85 that number is going to be lower.
I follow the mindset that you should pick a pump that can go above and beyond what power you want to make. Most shops agree with that idea, hence why they suggested to you a 1000$ fuel pump. I personally would run twin a1000's on your setup without worry.
At your power levels the last thing I'd want to worry about is my fuel system. That's my perspective, and I'm sure others will disagree but I wouldn't run anything less than a very serious pump.
EDIT:
I reread and saw your idea about using 044's for daily. I still would pick a1000's. They would be fine on the street, and will definitely get you to high boost.
I follow the mindset that you should pick a pump that can go above and beyond what power you want to make. Most shops agree with that idea, hence why they suggested to you a 1000$ fuel pump. I personally would run twin a1000's on your setup without worry.
At your power levels the last thing I'd want to worry about is my fuel system. That's my perspective, and I'm sure others will disagree but I wouldn't run anything less than a very serious pump.
EDIT:
I reread and saw your idea about using 044's for daily. I still would pick a1000's. They would be fine on the street, and will definitely get you to high boost.
12-03-2012, 08:25 AM
#97
You're putting a fully built 2j and gt47 in your car. That's enough air and bottom end for 1400whp (isn't that the area you're going for?). If you run 044's use a minimum 3. One theoretically pushes out to 670ish at the crank. On e85 that number is going to be lower.
I follow the mindset that you should pick a pump that can go above and beyond what power you want to make. Most shops agree with that idea, hence why they suggested to you a 1000$ fuel pump. I personally would run twin a1000's on your setup without worry.
At your power levels the last thing I'd want to worry about is my fuel system. That's my perspective, and I'm sure others will disagree but I wouldn't run anything less than a very serious pump.
EDIT:
I reread and saw your idea about using 044's for daily. I still would pick a1000's. They would be fine on the street, and will definitely get you to high boost.
I follow the mindset that you should pick a pump that can go above and beyond what power you want to make. Most shops agree with that idea, hence why they suggested to you a 1000$ fuel pump. I personally would run twin a1000's on your setup without worry.
At your power levels the last thing I'd want to worry about is my fuel system. That's my perspective, and I'm sure others will disagree but I wouldn't run anything less than a very serious pump.
EDIT:
I reread and saw your idea about using 044's for daily. I still would pick a1000's. They would be fine on the street, and will definitely get you to high boost.
044's push FAR more power then that, that's barely more then a walbro 255, at 46.5 the walbro flows about 15% less so it makes sense but we are running boosted vehicles, with that 46.5 even at a measly 20 psi the bosch jumps to 30% more flow then the walbro. That 670 is more like 670 to the wheels I've even heard of people making around 650 to the wheels on e85 with a single 044 although I don't know the specifics. if going for 1400 whp it won't be enough but should be fine for 1100 to the wheels mayby 1200.
Thanks Steve. Unfortunately no. With the hurricane I lost some time, but this month we are measuring and will get it going.
In the mean time, I picked up a GSX-R 600 so going to do some maintenance to that and get that running perfect(Stock) and have that to ride around until the Z is done. No plans for the bike but to just ride it and enjoy it for what it is.
12-03-2012, 12:23 PM
#98
i would never even bother with dual 044s on that kinda setup. Guys run that 2345 pump on the street all the time with the controller with no problems.
2x a1000 is about the same flow as the 2345 around 80psi of fuel pressure (which you are going to need every bit of 40psi to make 1200)
2x a1000 is about the same flow as the 2345 around 80psi of fuel pressure (which you are going to need every bit of 40psi to make 1200)
12-03-2012, 02:53 PM
#99
044's push FAR more power then that, that's barely more then a walbro 255, at 46.5 the walbro flows about 15% less so it makes sense but we are running boosted vehicles, with that 46.5 even at a measly 20 psi the bosch jumps to 30% more flow then the walbro. That 670 is more like 670 to the wheels I've even heard of people making around 650 to the wheels on e85 with a single 044 although I don't know the specifics. if going for 1400 whp it won't be enough but should be fine for 1100 to the wheels mayby 1200.
I'd never run twin 044's to try and make 1000+whp. You 'could' do it, but for the cost difference (just looking at the pumps) I'd rather have a legit setup of twin a1000's (like what 5XX$ vs 670$?) than 044's. I'm sure you could find a shop to sell you 2 a1000's for a bit cheaper if you also bought some other stuff with them.
I simply put would not want to run 044's that hard consistently, but to each their own.
Haha. I'm going to look into the A1000's and compare them with the 044's. See what others run and ask their feedback. Surprisingly, most of the Supra owners that are making 1000+whp are very helpful. For some reason I didn't think it would be as easy as it has been to share information. A lot has been done in PMs and emails. Most of them don't have threads about it. I'm sure they would get tons of "dreamers" bothering them.
Last edited by Resmarted; 12-03-2012 at 02:59 PM.
