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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Liar or not. dont buy seibon
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sifuK
forced fit and the inner piece in the well is angled. looks like sh*t and lip is all cracked. on the outside, the lip stick out like 1.5 inches out more than the other because it does not fit correctly.
Dont buy Seibon
wait... you mean to tell me:

a) you watched and LET them do this to your car?

b) you still have it on?
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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i gave it away
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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what ever i do, it seems like you guys will not and wont believe me and thats fine. but im just being honest and being heckled for it. i hope that these types of situations dont happen to you guys.
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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I believe you,

have you found any other replica manufacturers that are better?

I remeber when SCC put a seibon lip on thier Project MR-Spyder and it looked pretty rough.
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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Now i wont buy a replica. Ill just buy the real deal from japan and not some cheap crap thats wastes more of your money. There are some really bad companys out there.
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sifuK
forced fit and the inner piece in the well is angled. looks like sh*t and lip is all cracked. on the outside, the lip stick out like 1.5 inches out more than the other because it does not fit correctly.
Dont buy Seibon
so why dont you make your own thread? Im pretty sure Jim didnt sell you that lip, so why are you posting your fantasy on a thread about him?
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sifuK
Now i wont buy a replica. Ill just buy the real deal from japan and not some cheap crap thats wastes more of your money. There are some really bad companys out there.
do you have any recommended authentic vendors that you have had a good experience with?
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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I didn't sell him that lip.
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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Nissan = Authentic

Originally Posted by dictionary.com
au·then·tic [aw-then-tik] –adjective
1. not false or copied; genuine; real: an authentic antique.
everyone else = Replica

Originally Posted by dictionary.com
rep·li·ca [rep-li-kuh] –noun
1. a copy or reproduction of a work of art produced by the maker of the original or under his or her supervision.

The idea or an authentic parts being made by anyone other than Nissan makes my eyes bleed. Even if Nissan oversees the production it's still by definition a replica. I give a crap less of Top Secret originally made a hood with goofy vents in it. It's still an aftermarket part and is not by definition original to the car, nor is it by definition Authentic.


It's like fresh frozen, military intelligence, Ebay quality, it's a misnomer.
/rant
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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First of all, looking back on my thread, I must say I may have been a little fired up about the whole thing. I appologize if I offended anyone, I was blown away by the amount of people on here that just need to voice their opinion without contributing anything to the thred itself. Most of all thanks for those who supported me and I empathize for those going through simular situations with any vendor.

I have already won my case as the cc company has refunded my purchase price. The only thing left to do is show others what I was upset about and for Jim to pick up his hood.

Here we go... this shot is of the underside of the hood, you can see the extra effort the shop went trhough to get this sucker to fit. We put washers in and took washers out to adjust the fitment with no luck everything we tried made it worse somewhere else. You should not need washers to make a hood fit, first sign of poor fitment.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tattoo60012
Nissan = Authentic

everyone else = Replica

The idea or an authentic parts being made by anyone other than Nissan makes my eyes bleed. Even if Nissan oversees the production it's still by definition a replica. I give a crap less of Top Secret originally made a hood with goofy vents in it. It's still an aftermarket part and is not by definition original to the car, nor is it by definition Authentic.

It's like fresh frozen, military intelligence, Ebay quality, it's a misnomer.
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ok,

OEM would be != Nissan... 'Original Equipment Manufacturer'

Authentic could mean an Amuse body kit. I don't think nissan produces these, do they? and they are not copies of stock body panels although they fit in the same position in most cases.

Ganador mirrors might go on a 350z but that does not make them replica parts, since they are not copies of the original design....

Your provided definition does not even support your assertions...

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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by vze4fhpv
First of all, looking back on my thread, I must say I may have been a little fired up about the whole thing. I appologize if I offended anyone, I was blown away by the amount of people on here that just need to voice their opinion without contributing anything to the thred itself. Most of all thanks for those who supported me and I empathize for those going through simular situations with any vendor.

I have already won my case as the cc company has refunded my purchase price. The only thing left to do is show others what I was upset about and for Jim to pick up his hood.

Here we go... this shot is of the underside of the hood, you can see the extra effort the shop went trhough to get this sucker to fit. We put washers in and took washers out to adjust the fitment with no luck everything we tried made it worse somewhere else. You should not need washers to make a hood fit, first sign of poor fitment.
Alot of hoods actually come with spacers from the factory. they are flat peices of metal with two holes in them ( not the normal round washers) not that it matters. just saying. sorry.

waiting on more pictures to get a resolution!!!! YAY!
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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This second shot shows the hood trying to be closed, number one it doesn't clear the factory strut bar so the shop took it out, still didn't latch. They played with the latching mechanism that holds the hood down and could not get the hood to close and stay latched.

The gap in the middle is about 1 1/2 inches and the sides, maybe 1/2 inch, how's that for straigh? Anyway... we had to push the hood down with our hand to get it to even look closed and when it looked ok, it rubed the bumper so bad it would eventually take paint off if left that way, not that we could get it to latch right anyway.

The other two pics show you the latching bar that was in the hood, now keep in mind this is molded into the hood and can not be adjusted. The hood is so far out of whack it left marks on the corner of the latch piece indicating that the hood needed to go farther back on the car, problem being the hood gaps would be way way off at that point. plus the back of the hood would be closer to the windshield then the quarter panels, making for some ugly lines.

**** Notice the lines around the headlight compared to the front of the hood, that's closed****
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonLTD
I didn't sell him that lip.
Jim, You sell a LOT of CF Parts.. Have you ever thought of telling Seibon that you will refuse to sell any more of their parts if their Quality, Fit and Finish does not improve?
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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it wasnt jim. not the vendor.

just pissed with seibon and its not fantasy.

i feel like venting about seibon. i dont think its illegal for me to vent about seibon, is it ?

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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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ok, you now have proof that your hood doesn't fit.

-P.S. i wouldn't let someone close my hood by pushing their flat hand down on it while wearing a ring.
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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I noticed you have an aftermarket bumper. do you have pictures of your stock hood on, before anyone calls bs on that. alot of aftermarket bumpers have that gap through the center (veilside, Do luck) alot of the time.
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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People have a gap on thier bumper because they don't put the rubber trim back on thier aftermarket hoods.
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Now we get to the sides. When you moved the hood in any way the gaps where off big time. If we adjusted the left the right went way off and so on. Front to back and the hood looked terrible... it's hard to even explain but picture a square hood and your trying to put a diamond shaped hood on it. If you fix the front right the back left was off and vise versa... it's hard to see in a pic but the back gap was maybe 1/4 inch and the front 1/2 inch. I am not going to put this on my $35,000 car...

*** Again look at the headlight, the hood didn't even wind up flush with it ***

Keep in mind I had to pay 2-3hrs of labor to have this put on, adjusted, and taken off so an oem could go on... I don't get that money back..
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