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Originally Posted by Gators2001
I'm in the same boat with a TS hood that doesnt fit. But I gave JIM the picture he wanted and was told I needed to cut the skeleton.
Im not happy with having to cut a brand new $650 hood, which is considered fragile to begin with.
Im not happy with having to cut a brand new $650 hood, which is considered fragile to begin with.
If you have to cut a small part of the hood out as the sponsor told you to then will you get a discount break since that isn't part of the hood that you purchased. However can SPONSOR/SELLER still say perfect fitment? I guess not, I sold many hoods to G drivers and I never tell anyone to cut anything off the hood that they purchased from me. Cutting process should be done at the oversea factory and R & D information should be given to the factory from Seibon. Unless buyer is willing to mod the hood him self. Buying the newest style production is risk of investment because there are bugs (fitment issue) that need to be discover.
Last edited by grandmasterboss; Mar 22, 2007 at 09:49 AM.
Originally Posted by Gators2001
I'm in the same boat with a TS hood that doesnt fit. But I gave JIM the picture he wanted and was told I needed to cut the skeleton.
Im not happy with having to cut a brand new $650 hood, which is considered fragile to begin with.
Im not happy with having to cut a brand new $650 hood, which is considered fragile to begin with.

Your case is much different from the OP, so to say your in the same boat isn't true.
I dunno Jim 2 customers, same hood, neither one fits, sounds like if they aren't in the same boat they are at least floating down the same river.
Gators is going about resolving this the right way, but now we all know for a fact that the hood design is defective and the OP is justified in his claim. Even though he's a bit of a douche.
Gators is going about resolving this the right way, but now we all know for a fact that the hood design is defective and the OP is justified in his claim. Even though he's a bit of a douche.
But to be fair, you pay for a hood that you think will fit. If the vendor then tells you that you have to do this and that, then that's bs since all the extra work costs more money. I still think the OP has to show pics to prove that it doesn't fit well, if he does and it's proof Jim has to take it back
Originally Posted by THE TECH
Unfortunately, lack of quality and defective item are being confused.
IMO wavyness in the hood, issues with the weave, most of the cosmetic complaints about carbon can be called "quality issues" However if the part just plain doesn't fit, no matter what without having to break out the saw and modify the structural integrity of the part, I say defective.
Hey Jim if someone buys a TS hood from you, cuts the supports as you are instructing, do you think Seibon will still warranty the hood if it cracks in the weakend spot where you had to remove material so that it would fit? My guess is taking a saw to a brand new part modifying the structural integrity probably voids the warranty.
Originally Posted by tattoo60012
good point Tech, do you think having to modify an aftermarket part that was designed to fit on a car is a problem with quality, or is this evidence of a defective part.
IMO wavyness in the hood, issues with the weave, most of the cosmetic complaints about carbon can be called "quality issues" However if the part just plain doesn't fit, no matter what without having to break out the saw and modify the structural integrity of the part, I say defective.
Hey Jim if someone buys a TS hood from you, cuts the supports as you are instructing, do you think Seibon will still warranty the hood if it cracks in the weakend spot where you had to remove material so that it would fit? My guess is taking a saw to a brand new part modifying the structural integrity probably voids the warranty.
IMO wavyness in the hood, issues with the weave, most of the cosmetic complaints about carbon can be called "quality issues" However if the part just plain doesn't fit, no matter what without having to break out the saw and modify the structural integrity of the part, I say defective.
Hey Jim if someone buys a TS hood from you, cuts the supports as you are instructing, do you think Seibon will still warranty the hood if it cracks in the weakend spot where you had to remove material so that it would fit? My guess is taking a saw to a brand new part modifying the structural integrity probably voids the warranty.
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I love how this guy has all the time in the world to PM a bunch of people but he cant spend the time just to take some pics of a defective hood LOL AT THIS GUY AND HIS THREAD !!!!!! 













Originally Posted by tattoo60012
Hey Jim if someone buys a TS hood from you, cuts the supports as you are instructing, do you think Seibon will still warranty the hood if it cracks in the weakend spot where you had to remove material so that it would fit? My guess is taking a saw to a brand new part modifying the structural integrity probably voids the warranty.
Originally Posted by tattoo60012
good point Tech, do you think having to modify an aftermarket part that was designed to fit on a car is a problem with quality, or is this evidence of a defective part.
IMO wavyness in the hood, issues with the weave, most of the cosmetic complaints about carbon can be called "quality issues" However if the part just plain doesn't fit, no matter what without having to break out the saw and modify the structural integrity of the part, I say defective.
Hey Jim if someone buys a TS hood from you, cuts the supports as you are instructing, do you think Seibon will still warranty the hood if it cracks in the weakend spot where you had to remove material so that it would fit? My guess is taking a saw to a brand new part modifying the structural integrity probably voids the warranty.
IMO wavyness in the hood, issues with the weave, most of the cosmetic complaints about carbon can be called "quality issues" However if the part just plain doesn't fit, no matter what without having to break out the saw and modify the structural integrity of the part, I say defective.
Hey Jim if someone buys a TS hood from you, cuts the supports as you are instructing, do you think Seibon will still warranty the hood if it cracks in the weakend spot where you had to remove material so that it would fit? My guess is taking a saw to a brand new part modifying the structural integrity probably voids the warranty.
Weave is not a defect.
Waviness is a defect.
If he wants to pay someone to remove the hood and put the carbon one back on for pics.. then put my oem hood on I'll send him pics. I'm not wasting my time or money to do this... so whatever... keep arguing..
The hood has bad gaps, won't latch and won't clear the strut bar.... it's crap
The hood won't clear the bar so it needs to be cut? Are you kidding me... this is a joke.
The hood has bad gaps, won't latch and won't clear the strut bar.... it's crap
The hood won't clear the bar so it needs to be cut? Are you kidding me... this is a joke.
Last edited by vze4fhpv; Mar 22, 2007 at 01:52 PM.
Originally Posted by vze4fhpv
If he wants to pay someone to remove the hood and put the carbon one back on for pics.. then put my oem hood on I'll send him pics. I'm not wasting my time or money to do this... so whatever... keep arguing..
Ok, so first I got this PM
Pay attention bud, not only have I not taken sides in the matter, I've also commented that I was not taking sides in the matter. I've made arguments that support you and Jim on different matters, I've also made arguments against you and Jim. On post #58 I commented that pictures should have been submitted.
Then I get this PM
Again, Pay attention on Post #113 I commented that you were a whiner, are you going to report me for that one too? I'm not saying what I say to support you or to hurt Jim, most of the time I speak only in general terms specifically to not take sides, and yes you know my secret I'm a Jerk, a big one..... even my mother will tell you that, and I'm still under the impression that she likes me. Actually most people just call me an A$$ but usually it's because they can't argue their side properly. Name calling is the last act of a desperate individual, only when you can't say anything to rebut what has been said does the name calling come out. I say name calling as in using nouns to describe someone.
IE: You are a Jerk ............... Jerk is being used as a noun
IE: The OP is a bit of a whiny douche ............. OP is the noun whiny and douche are adjectives. Adjectives help to describe something or someone in case you don't remember from English class.
I'm sorry if you are offended, but frankly that is your problem. You've failed to hold up your end of the vendor customer relationship. Jim made a reasonable request and you have not been able to fulfill that request, if I were Jim at this point I say game over; you aren't willing to play ball. You've made accusations that you can't or won't prove. That's the difference between reporting an issue about a vendor and Slandering a vendor. You've PM'd several members telling them that you don't want their opinion, or that they aren't welcome in your thread. The point of this is that it's public, for everyone, when you start hiding behind your pm's it says a lot about your character.
So to sum it all up, douche is the nicest possible adjective I could come up with to describe the way you have acted in this forum. If you would like me to be more colorful when I put you and your actions down, by all means let me know, and I will gladly take the kid gloves off.
Originally Posted by vze4fhpv
Thanks for all your help with the hood thread. What people don't seem to understand is I am so tired of fighting with the guy I just want him to pick up his hood. He's a horrible business person and I will never deal with him again. I am not going to put the ****ty hood back on so I can take pictures... it's too late for that. But whatever, I'm done arguing...
Then I get this PM
Originally Posted by vze4fhpv
You called me a douche? Nice... I'll be sure to report you for that one. Thanks for the support, jerk...
IE: You are a Jerk ............... Jerk is being used as a noun
IE: The OP is a bit of a whiny douche ............. OP is the noun whiny and douche are adjectives. Adjectives help to describe something or someone in case you don't remember from English class.
I'm sorry if you are offended, but frankly that is your problem. You've failed to hold up your end of the vendor customer relationship. Jim made a reasonable request and you have not been able to fulfill that request, if I were Jim at this point I say game over; you aren't willing to play ball. You've made accusations that you can't or won't prove. That's the difference between reporting an issue about a vendor and Slandering a vendor. You've PM'd several members telling them that you don't want their opinion, or that they aren't welcome in your thread. The point of this is that it's public, for everyone, when you start hiding behind your pm's it says a lot about your character.
So to sum it all up, douche is the nicest possible adjective I could come up with to describe the way you have acted in this forum. If you would like me to be more colorful when I put you and your actions down, by all means let me know, and I will gladly take the kid gloves off.
All of the aftermarket body kits have a waiver on their websites.you buy a bumper or hood that does not fit, your screwed.This is the exact reason we stopped selling body kits out of our shop.Im not putting my reputation on the line to make $100 on a knock off body part that does not fit properly.
Let this thread be a lesson to both Vendor and Buyers...Im not taking sides on either account, but I can vouch that the OP's car was not in any front end collison. And he is not a kid. He is simply upset that the hood he got has fitment issues.
Im sure this whole situation could have been resolved in private if he had just sent pictures in the first place.I personally would do nothing for the OP either in this case until I got the pictures.Even then there is the fitment waiver and time span that has passed..
Let this thread be a lesson to both Vendor and Buyers...Im not taking sides on either account, but I can vouch that the OP's car was not in any front end collison. And he is not a kid. He is simply upset that the hood he got has fitment issues.
Im sure this whole situation could have been resolved in private if he had just sent pictures in the first place.I personally would do nothing for the OP either in this case until I got the pictures.Even then there is the fitment waiver and time span that has passed..




