Thanks for the help everyone.

I really don't want to go with one of these programmers (Diablosport Predator), they just seem like they won't be able to control as much as I want.

 

Hey Sharif, got my stuff today







Thanks a bunch, now chances are I won't be able to set anything up like the install and tuning until after Nopi Nats in Sept. But good thing about that I would assume is much more time for you to get familiar with this

 

Cool...nice pics.

We'll be seeing you soon, I am sure. :thumbsups:

 

I have a Super Charged 1996 Maxima...

Engine: VQ30
MAF: Z32 MAF
Injectors: Z32 370cc injectors

With this work for my car ??

If I do get the EU, what WBO2 will I need to be compatable with the EU ?? heres the LM-1 Website...http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...me.php?cat=248

I would like to get the LM-1 soon, then when I know for sure it will work with the VQ-30, then Ill get it..$350, $430, or $590

-matt

Quick shot of my setup


Right now Im using a JWT modified ECU, Walbro Intank, AEM FPR, 370's, Z32 MAF

 

Should work just fine. You can modify the parameters to suit your engine and MAF if need be. But the software has preconfiguration for VQ30.

The Lm-1 will work as well. Any of them will work, you just need to decide on the feature set that is right for you. PM me if you need helpe with this, let me know. We have the best prices on Innovate product.

 

Well on the list of family of VQ engines that the ultimate works with is:

VQ35DE
VQ30DET
VQ25DE
VQ20DE

The 95-99 Maxima is the VQ30DE...thats why I really dont think the Ultimate will work.

Any feedback ?

-matt

 

Matt, I think you can still get the EU to work. The configuration system just adjusts things like number of cylinders, displacement, and MAF. You can switch MAFs if you want. The EU is designed to work nearly all import cars, and I would be really surprised if it didnt work. I have a customer that is a Sentra Spec V driver, and he got the EU working with his car too...and an autosport harness (Designed for the 350Z) as well.

 

-Sharif@Forged

Doesnt it also have to do with the cam sensors and the sesors all around the engine that the EU know. If its programmed for one engine like the VQ35 and you put in on the VQ30DE, woudnt it run according to those cam senor settings and such that are programmed to that ??

Thanks for the infomation...Im really new to all this tuning stuff so I need to learn all about it. Ive only been in the boost world for about 9 months and tuning hasnt been a factor for me yet, but I want it to be...I would need some help getting this running on my car of course...

I PM'ed you for prices on the innovative stuff...also send me prices on the EU

-matt

 

Actually, the way we wire up the EU is without a cam sensor input. The cam and crank inputs are just taps, and are use to determine engine RPM, and real-time timing. For our application, we just tap the crank sensor feed.

The engine will still run just fine, and doesnt even need a cam or crank reference to run.

Info sent on the Innovate product.

 

You will set the EU to VQ30DET, since you switched to a Z32 MAF

 

Being spoiled by all the fancy toys I play with every day, I have never cared much for the E-Manage, but the E-Manage Ultimate sounds like something I'll look into.... Until AEM finishes the 350Z EMS.

 

Dont hold you breath on the EMS for the 350Z. They have been saying it will be ready in 3 months, for the past 2 years.

I agree...i think when the time comes, many of us will upgrade to the EMS...maybe after about the 5th software/firmware revision, since the first ones are notoriously buggy from AEM.

 

Yeah, I hear ya. I spoke with Mitch over there today and he couldn't give me any definate date, just that they are "actively working on it".

I haven't dealt with E-Manage since we had to wire one up on our WRX race car the night before the first Time Attack. It worked pretty well. I always get confused with all the optional sensors. Could you list all the things we'd need to buy to get it working? Sorry if you've done that already, I didn't catch it.

Also, I hear the EU has a pretty nice data logger. Have you played with it? It sounds like you've seen the EMS. How does it compare to the EMS logger?

 

IMO, the AEM is the best system on the market *if* it will actually work on your application. The features/price are untouched by any other EMS, period.

However, in the case of the VQ35, they do not offer any support. Even the universal system requires the modification of the factory engine sensors (grinding off teeth to change the timing patterns) which means that it would be impossible to keep your factory ECU happy. Translation: it would be great for a race car, but a very tough sell for a street car. I hope that someday AEM releases a plug and play for this application. If they do, I am confident that it will be the best solution out there. However, I am not so sure that they will ever make it to this point. They have resolved to doing a complete ECU replacement which means they will have to offer complete CAN support - no small task considering that Nissan isn't willing to help. The reality is, if they can implement 10 other applications with the same amount of engineering effort as doing the one VQ35 application, I have a bad feeling that we will continue to be pushed off year after year (I would make that same decision if I were calling the shots at AEM, it's just basic business sense). There is NO way that a system will be out in the next 6 months, I'd bet my car on that one.

So, the bottom line becomes "who cares" how the e-manage compares to the AEM, the one is a simple install and is known to work, the other is science fiction at this point.

 

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath at this point, but I have a feeling that they will have is out within a year or so. I agree not in six months.

The reason for the comparison questions is to get some kind of idea of the EU functions and capability with regards to data logging.

 

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/136306-emanage-ultimate-data-logging.html

 

For a 350Z appplication, assuming you have forced induction, you need the following:

Emanage Unit
Complete Harness (sup harness only if you have the eManage Blue installed)
Pressure Sensor
Pressure Sensor Harness

The datalogging and mapping on the EMS is still more advanced. But for the tuning that you would do on the EU, its very capabile. The datalogger is incredible, when compared to the Emanage Blue.

Like the EMS, and EU takes some time to get really familiar with, and I think you will find that the more experience you have with it, the more you will appreciate its capabilities. It's really a very powerful device, and far better than any other Piggybacks on the market, IMHO.

 

What about a 350z with a N/A application.

 

I am 95% sure that all VQ's have a fuel cut rev limiter, so does that mean we can riase it with the EU?

 

In theory yes, as long as the crank signal is compatible (which has been already proven on the VQ35). As far as I know no one with a VQ series engine has tried it yet (someone correct me if I'm wrong) but you can bet on me doing so once I get mine installed.

IIRC, I believe the guy at Transonic Racing has gotten it working on an IS300 to a point... the rev limit increase seems to work fine but there appears to be a bug in Greddy's software such that the EU is not quite ouputting the proper I/J pulse width. His A/F was therefore leaning out on him. Either that or he's got a setup problem that hasn't been discovered yet. However the car was happily revving up past the factory limit. Seems like 2 separate issues really.