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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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My other car is an Infinit I35. I enjoy the power delivery. Almost too much for FWD. And about 20% better fuel economy at 65MPH than my Z!


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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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The Maxima is the brother of the Z, They both started with the same engine, once again they share it, and we are busy making fun of eachother? Its a frickin reunion! we should rejoice!
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 05:08 AM
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Well I didn't read all of the 5 pages, sorry if someone already asked this. But ask me this, why does the GT500 350Z race cars run a VQ30DETT engines instead of the the VQ35DEs? And the 350zs in the GT300 run the VQ35DE engine? For those that don't know the difference between the GT500 and GT300, one has a hp limit of 500 and the other is 300. Why did tunning companies downgrade to a VQ30DE for the JGTC series for the GT500 class?
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 05:12 AM
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Well I didn't read all of the 5 pages, sorry if someone already asked this. But ask me this, why does the GT500 350Z race cars run a VQ30DETT engines instead of the the VQ35DEs? And the 350zs in the GT300 run the VQ35DE engine? For those that don't know the difference between the GT500 and GT300, one has a hp limit of 500 and the other is 300. Why did tunning companies downgrade to a VQ30DE for the JGTC series for the GT500 class?
You are correct at least for the gt500 class, i cant recall what they use in the gt300

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http://www.jgtc.net/race/2004/04rd1/041entry_e.shtm

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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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which goes back to the person with the big mouth who said tilley was in a rush to get to soccer practice. i want to know why he has a turbo for his z? where is he in a rush to?

thats what i thought, NO WHERE
Sometimes when I'm hungry I drive pretty fast on the way to the grocery store, but then I realize I don't have enough cargo space for all the bags... of course you've probably never had that problem.

Oh yeah, I'm also doing a SR swap on my Frontier next week. I'll make sure to drop by the Maxima forums and let you know how it went.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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get off this site tilly!!! hater!!!
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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get off this site tilly!!! hater!!!
I hope your kidding. I wouldnt have came here with the info if i was a hater.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Sometimes when I'm hungry I drive pretty fast on the way to the grocery store, but then I realize I don't have enough cargo space for all the bags... of course you've probably never had that problem.

Oh yeah, I'm also doing a SR swap on my Frontier next week. I'll make sure to drop by the Maxima forums and let you know how it went.
If anyone should get off this site it should be you, you have nothing good too say, and doesnt seem like you really ever do according too other memebers who called and told me they were sorry about some of the azz holes on here (in reference too you)
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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Alright Alright... Thanks 4 Da Z Info!!! But Why All Those Mods On A Maxima!! Why Not Just Buy A Z!!!!!
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Sometimes when I'm hungry I drive pretty fast on the way to the grocery store, but then I realize I don't have enough cargo space for all the bags... of course you've probably never had that problem.

Oh yeah, I'm also doing a SR swap on my Frontier next week. I'll make sure to drop by the Maxima forums and let you know how it went.
Considering that the Skyline engine is rumored to be closer to the VQ30 than the VQ35, his post is entirely relevant. We have to assume that Nissan engineers know what they're doing.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by siua
Alright Alright... Thanks 4 Da Z Info!!! But Why All Those Mods On A Maxima!! Why Not Just Buy A Z!!!!!

Why spent so much $ to get the Z to 400 hp? Why not buy a Corvette and enjoy the warranty?
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by siua
Alright Alright... Thanks 4 Da Z Info!!! But Why All Those Mods On A Maxima!! Why Not Just Buy A Z!!!!!
Sleeper, theres nothing like takin down some american muscle cars in a japanese sedan.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Xmax
Well I didn't read all of the 5 pages, sorry if someone already asked this. But ask me this, why does the GT500 350Z race cars run a VQ30DETT engines instead of the the VQ35DEs? And the 350zs in the GT300 run the VQ35DE engine? For those that don't know the difference between the GT500 and GT300, one has a hp limit of 500 and the other is 300. Why did tunning companies downgrade to a VQ30DE for the JGTC series for the GT500 class?
Hmm... you have a good point. Maybe they should be running boosted Maximas in the gt500 series?

Anyway, we all know the vq35 has its shortcomings, but there's a lot more to owning a Z car than just raw power and perforance. The 350z is an awesome balance of history, performance, looks, and comfort. But, in the end, I still don't go over to the C6 forums to let them know how fast my Z is.

We all know that with enough money you can make about any car on the road faster than 99.999% of the cars in existance. And, it doesn't matter if you have a 9 second Honda, in the end you're still driving home a CRX.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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Sleeper, theres nothing like takin down some american muscle cars in a japanese sedan.
And what else seems like a sad story? You own/work at a body shop fixing up some Uncle Ben's n' Rice a Roni.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Aquineas
Considering that the Skyline engine is rumored to be closer to the VQ30 than the VQ35, his post is entirely relevant. We have to assume that Nissan engineers know what they're doing.
So you think I didn't know this? Are you telling everyone here that we need to do this garbage to our motor to make it work? I'll tell you that I for one don't give rat's a$$.

As stated, if I wanted real power I'd go buy an 06 Z06 corvette. But, you don't see me hanging out in the Ferrarri owners forums teling them this.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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Zo6 Is Beautiful... Still Love My Z... Z 4 Life!!
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Hmm... you have a good point. Maybe they should be running boosted Maximas in the gt500 series?

Anyway, we all know the vq35 has its shortcomings, but there's a lot more to owning a Z car than just raw power and perforance. The 350z is an awesome balance of history, performance, looks, and comfort. But, in the end, I still don't go over to the C6 forums to let them know how fast my Z is.

We all know that with enough money you can make about any car on the road faster than 99.999% of the cars in existance. And, it doesn't matter if you have a 9 second Honda, in the end you're still driving home a CRX.


Just remember, as you look at the 9 sec CRX out of your Z window (as it flies by you), someone may be looking at you out of a Ferrari thinking same stuff about you you as you are thinking about the CRX.

Let's all cut the crap. A car is a car is a car. Whatever make/model/year/price/body style/etc it is, when it comes to sportscars it is a question of how quickly it can carry you from A to B. When you get smoked by a 13 sec all motor Maxima or a 9 sec all motor CRXyou can argue all you want about you having more style/racing history/etc, you still ate his dust.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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tilleys99 thanks for the info and good luck on any future projects you have. It sucks that some members gave you same crap and the whole flame war thing happened. Look forward to hearing more info from you about the performace of your motor.

Just as a correction to F23A4's post. The Z did not die, it was pulled from the US market.. it was still made / sold in the JDM market until the release of the z33 (350z).

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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
The 350z is an awesome balance of history, performance, looks, and comfort. But, in the end, I still don't go over to the C6 forums to let them know how fast my Z is.

Well since evidently you are a retard and dont understand that a 02+ maxima VQ and a 350z VQ are the same motor internally (which is why i posted in the z forum) I have 3 VQ35de maxima motors and 1 350z motor so if anyone knows i do, infact i used 350z heads in my maxima, maybe you should go on the c6 forums pick up some z06 heads and throw them on you VQ35. If you dont have anything good to say get out of this thread. I already have 2 people with Z's interested in this so evidently there is a reason.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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Wow, this thread might have one useful page of information out of 5. Top Notch.
For the JGTC questions:
the GT300 cars do use the VQ35. The GT500 cars use the VQ30. This has NOTHING to do with which block is better. NISMO used the displacement that made sense for each class. Since the GT500 cars are limited to around 500hp, they had to use the VQ30, because in GT500, turbo engines with more than 3.0 Liters of displacement must carry a higher minimum weight and use smaller restrictors. They can easily make 500hp and even more torque with the VQ35, but why bother with the extra penalties if they could do the same with the VQ30? It only makes sense.
the GT300 use the VQ35 for the same reasons. The cars are limited to 300hp, well crap, that's essentially stock for a VQ35, with more torque than the VQ30. Why not boost the VQ30 and make more torque? Again, the restrictor size and weight penalty wouldn't be worth it, so a torquey 3.5L V6 made more sense, as well as help brand image to boot.
As far as vibration goes, the VQ35 is won't be as smooth because..... wait for it..... it's a bigger engine. Seems obvious, but the longer stroke, larger pistons, and increased mass that goes along with it increases the amount of torsional vibration induced on the crankshaft. Fact of life. Nissan did a pretty good job of it though with a lot of micropolishing, etc. For a big V6, it really is pretty smooth. I think of installing 100mm sleeves for a 3.8L block, but shudder at the vibrations it would produce at high revs above 7200rpm. The upcoming 3.8 flat 6 in the next 911GT3 will make me cry with envy, but a horizontally opposed engine is much smoother for 3rd order harmonics, and a V6 isn't. Another Fact of Life.
Finally, I think for a high revving N/A VQ, this is a pretty sweet idea, but I wonder about the heads. The Z has much better breathing than the VQ30 heads, but I wonder about fitment, especially without the CVTCC system installed. Tilley's99, how did that go for you, any special gaskets required or custom block off plates? FWIW, the GT300 Z doesn't use the CVTCC system, again for penalty reasons, and the front cover of a VQ30 I guess fits just fine, but I haven't taken either apart to look and am curious.
Thanks for your info,
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