Stillen Stage 4 no power gain
Originally Posted by nateg35
Put it this way...they're the only kit that offer engine warranty & also customer can go to certain dealership to have it installed.....I do believe that this kit has to be proven its reliability in order for them to go this far
And, by the way, for the SMALL amount of people that have gone with the Stillen stage 4 kit, I've read of at least 2 that have already blown their motors on it. Reliable indeed...And, I've had no heat issues on my car whatsoever. The heat problem on the Turbonetics kit is vastly overstated from everyone who hates on the kit. I decided to go with fully wrapped piping and coated exhaust manifolds, and also a nice vented hood. The turbo heat is almost unperceivable after these few mods.
Originally Posted by taurran
Yes, but you realize that warranty goes out the window when you put on the stage 3 and 4 kits. Oh wait, these happen to be the only versions of this kit that will get you past 300whp.
And, by the way, for the SMALL amount of people that have gone with the Stillen stage 4 kit, I've read of at least 2 that have already blown their motors on it. Reliable indeed...
And, I've had no heat issues on my car whatsoever. The heat problem on the Turbonetics kit is vastly overstated from everyone who hates on the kit. I decided to go with fully wrapped piping and coated exhaust manifolds, and also a nice vented hood. The turbo heat is almost unperceivable after these few mods.
And, by the way, for the SMALL amount of people that have gone with the Stillen stage 4 kit, I've read of at least 2 that have already blown their motors on it. Reliable indeed...And, I've had no heat issues on my car whatsoever. The heat problem on the Turbonetics kit is vastly overstated from everyone who hates on the kit. I decided to go with fully wrapped piping and coated exhaust manifolds, and also a nice vented hood. The turbo heat is almost unperceivable after these few mods.
i think that any form of FI on a 350z is pretty sweet, heck even NA form they are awesome cars. I got to ride in a couple stillen z's and g's and its definitely nice, even if it doesnt put down the MOST power. A lot of dealerships do install these kits and for a lot of people, it is reassuring. To me, a stillen charged z is respectable.
Hope you get things worked out
Hope you get things worked out
Originally Posted by nateg35
yes I do...but again, you missed my points and no I didn't know about the 2 person whom blown their engines on stage4....what happens? did they have to build the new ones?
Originally Posted by taurran
One guy blew his motor and ended up going built with a JWT TT. The other guy, well, not really sure what he ended up doing off hand.
seemed to be muttering something about built blocks...
Originally Posted by thawk408
Do you live in Lebanon TN? Was your car at Bradshaws collision awhile back? If so I will be glad to meet up and give you a run in my bolton NA Z.
if people are not getting enough power with this kit , it is because they did not install it right or their car is originally messed up.
sorry guys but iam not trying to argue for the sake of it, but i tried my car and i know how it performs.
Originally Posted by sentry65
My NA Z had a 50+whp gain and lost weight, while a stillen stage 2 gives you about the same power gain and gains weight
allright guys,this thread was started because he has a problem.why in the hell did this turn into a bashing.help him with the problem,i think thats what he was hoping for,and true i have a stage 3 with 17,000 miles on it and i know i'll get spanked running a turbo z(alberto allready did that at the track)but thats not why i bought the kit.back when i did mine the only kits out there were ati(which blew 4 or more motors when it was 1st out)vortech,which i like just dont like the chatter at idle,and greddy which was having problems.if turbonetics was avali at the time i would have gone that way.stillen is great around town for which most of my driving is and i still like it.all kits have there ups and downs and i like them all,but i still think fi is fi and be happy that you could afford to do it.just my .02.
Originally Posted by Dr.G
with stage 4 , i get at least 120whp extra on the wheels, there is no freaking way that a NA Z can beat that not even close. i play with NA modified Z,s as if they were Micras
Your post saying "AT LEAST 120WHP EXTRA" is useless. Get off your *** and get it dyno'd or stop posting in this thread. I could say "I got at least 300WHP NA with all my bolt-ons." But I got my car dyno'd to know what it really has.
This may be a viable option. They do a lot of SVT eatons so I don't see why they couldn't handle a smaller eaton like Stillens.
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Originally Posted by EM-EFER
Your post saying "AT LEAST 120WHP EXTRA" is useless. Get off your *** and get it dyno'd or stop posting in this thread. I could say "I got at least 300WHP NA with all my bolt-ons." But I got my car dyno'd to know what it really has.
By the way i am a PhD. Holder in Engineering, go study your engineering and you will see that any NA bolts on put together (unless you modify the pistons etc..) cannot match FI
NA = headers, exhaust, plenum, cats, flywheel, pulley, crank shaft ... all that is nothing at all compared to FI.
I personally have Stillen stage 4, flywheel, ACT clutch, JWT popcharger, and i WILL blow you away big time by at least 10 cars cars as I did to: Porsche Carrera S 2005 model , M3 (2005) , EVO8, STI prodrive 2.5l, and did beat ferrari 355 and C6 vette but not like the others that i litterally blew away. try your 300whp car with an M3 which is 280whp or a Carrera S which is 300whp and let me know the result!!!! I bet an EVO 8 can give you a hard time.
There is no freaking way in any science book that as some in this forum claim that a 9psi boost gave them 440 and 450 whp , this is against science:
7psi can give at best 345whp with SC and 360whp with TT, 9psi can give at best 380 whp with SC and 400 with TT , otherwise you will be contradicting engineering laws or your dyno is giving FOR SURE wrong results.to get 450whp you need at least 12psi of boost, simple formula: (if 240 is stock Z)
240 x(12+14) /14 = 445.7 with 12 psi and this is theoratical if same internals, so actually less than that.
Go to Zmagazine supercharger shootout, and check Videos, and articles. The Vortech , ATI, Stillen SC were compared. with only 7psi Stillen stage 3 gave 339 whp 5hp less than the others, but more torque. the stock 350z gives at best 240whp, so that is 100hp more . stage 4 gives 120hp more IF WELL INSTALLED. PERIOD.
only stage 1 Stillen gave around 300 whp with 5.5 psi and without any intercooler.
AND for the :" Stop Posting on this thread " i can tell you :go learn some manners because if your parents did not teach you any, I sure can.
Dr. G.........we want proof, is all. If you want to make claims of horsepower, you can, but without anything to back it up, nobody will pay attention.
Oh, and if you ever decide to bring your car to the USA, come to FL and I'll smoke you with my TN kit
Oh, and if you ever decide to bring your car to the USA, come to FL and I'll smoke you with my TN kit
Originally Posted by superchargedg
allright guys,this thread was started because he has a problem.why in the hell did this turn into a bashing.help him with the problem,i think thats what he was hoping for,and true i have a stage 3 with 17,000 miles on it and i know i'll get spanked running a turbo z(alberto allready did that at the track)but thats not why i bought the kit.back when i did mine the only kits out there were ati(which blew 4 or more motors when it was 1st out)vortech,which i like just dont like the chatter at idle,and greddy which was having problems.if turbonetics was avali at the time i would have gone that way.stillen is great around town for which most of my driving is and i still like it.all kits have there ups and downs and i like them all,but i still think fi is fi and be happy that you could afford to do it.just my .02.
Originally Posted by chimmike
Dr. G.........we want proof, is all. If you want to make claims of horsepower, you can, but without anything to back it up, nobody will pay attention.
i can give you proof but first i am too lazy to drive 2hrs to the dyno place, second i myself do not need the proof , you do not want to believe me that is your problem i really do not care.
Oh, and if you ever decide to bring your car to the USA, come to FL and I'll smoke you with my TN kit
i can give you proof but first i am too lazy to drive 2hrs to the dyno place, second i myself do not need the proof , you do not want to believe me that is your problem i really do not care.
Oh, and if you ever decide to bring your car to the USA, come to FL and I'll smoke you with my TN kit

if i go to FL it will be without my car since i live overseas, so perhaps you can take me for a ride and show me your car .
Originally Posted by chimmike
sadly, this is rarely true with the stillen kit.
Last edited by Dr.G; Apr 19, 2006 at 08:14 AM.
I don't really think safety is a concern here, the reason the stillen kit is safe is because it doesn't make squat for power, runs very conservative timing and fuel as well.
push the stillen setup to 400whp and it becomes a bit more unreliable simply due to the excessive intake temps due to the nature of a roots blower compressing the air.
push the stillen setup to 400whp and it becomes a bit more unreliable simply due to the excessive intake temps due to the nature of a roots blower compressing the air.


