Stillen Stage 4 no power gain
Originally Posted by kevinbonds
"oh snap" this place is crazy. what ever bro I dont even give a **** anymore! You missed my point so go bark up someone elses tree. Listen congrats on your setup beat a dead horse I really dont care. You know more then me etc, etc.
Oh well, have a nice day.
Originally Posted by kevinbonds
"oh snap" this place is crazy. what ever bro I dont even give a **** anymore! You missed my point so go bark up someone elses tree. Listen congrats on your setup beat a dead horse I really dont care. You know more then me etc, etc.
The heat issue can be debated all day long. Those s/c setups aren't without their own major faults
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Originally Posted by chimmike
hey, we set up two equivalent cars. Yours stillen stage 4, mine turbonetics. consider same suspension mods, etc. What car is going to run faster times at the track? Mine. Why? More midrange torque, better top end power.
The heat issue can be debated all day long. Those s/c setups aren't without their own major faults
The heat issue can be debated all day long. Those s/c setups aren't without their own major faults
I've got about 5~6 responses trying to help....the rest are trashing each other kit... Honestly I think both kits are great but for those who are into tracking, turbo would be best fit (JWT TT seems to be better choice/ NOT turbonetics when they haven't get CARB). For those as daily/city driver Stillen is a GREAT choice...FYI...this is where most people spend 90% of their driving
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Listen I explained already that I have heard and saw a couple TN single turbo kits that have had heat issues. If you read I am not saying everyone has the issue. I just said what i thought from my personal experience. Honestly all that matters is that you enjoy what you have and if you do thats what counts. Also remember that it's not only the track but the driver. So if both cars were identical suspension etc, one with a stillen supercharger and one with a single turbo the most inportant factor would be driver and reliability of the car. So it's all personal taste. And to be honest most people are not good enough drivers to take advantage of the power in either car. So does it really matter?
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and by the way to all the people trashing other's kit based only on powergains: i have friends who setup turbos on old BMW's that are pieces of crap worth 1000 $ and go below 11 sec in the 1/4 so what??????their car is designed only to last few runs . I drive my car everyday to work it is fast powerful and most important as reliable as stock and with minimum maintenance (i change blower oil every 100K miles!!! and of course the belts when it is time to and that's it).
Originally Posted by Dr.G
To Mr. Alberto , i do not need to prove anything to you , i said it before it does not matter to me if you or others believe me or not. All the proof you are asking for is in a local forum overhere
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Originally Posted by Dr.G
hey nateg35 did u check the belts?
Mine is accurate up to 0.10 secs after I calibrated it !
5AT can't shift fast enough to avoid REV limiter with FI. Raise Rev limiter or get a VB upgrade... I learned that with my ATI at 7 psi...
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Originally Posted by PalFX
I had the Stillen stage 4 installed on my FX about 3 weeks ago and my experience so far has been positive. Went from stage 2 > 3 > 4 in less than 5 months. With stage 4 and in auto mode, the first two gears rev up so fast to 7.5K rpm according to the stock tach (stock ecu and no flash). As a matter of fact, I have to back off the gas a little at the top to persuade it to shift. No shift limiter kicks in either as I assume this is due to the engine rev'ing too fast for it to catch on. 3rd gear in auto, it shifts by itself but at around 7.2K rpm. Not good and nothing to brag about but I do feel the power increase over the stage 3 which was dyno'ed on my FX35 RWD (auto of course) to produce ~24rwhp over the stage 2 which was a nice increase over stock N/A moded. Needless to say, when I want to go WOT, I make sure I'm in manual mode so not to blow my engine. I received the new bulkier 7th injector and the new FMU tune that the initial stage 4 didn't get. No dyno's yet but will at some point in the near future. Lastly, stage 4 loves hi-octane gas.
Turbo is power loss due to heat issue
SC is power loss due to power drain on drive train.
I went with SC because it's hot here year round, lol even at night....
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SC is power loss due to power drain on drive train.
I went with SC because it's hot here year round, lol even at night....
Danny
Originally Posted by chimmike
hey, we set up two equivalent cars. Yours stillen stage 4, mine turbonetics. consider same suspension mods, etc. What car is going to run faster times at the track? Mine. Why? More midrange torque, better top end power.
The heat issue can be debated all day long. Those s/c setups aren't without their own major faults
The heat issue can be debated all day long. Those s/c setups aren't without their own major faults
Originally Posted by Alberto
Not the TQ it puts out because its not crazy big peak #'s, but the fact that it comes on way early is great. Ive seen 300ft/lbs @ 2000rpm's....
BTW did I tell you my car runs 12.6@110mph?? I havnt run it yet but I did the math and all signs point to yes.
Just check my local forum all the proof is over there.
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Originally Posted by EM-EFER
Don't waste your time arguing with this "highly educated" Dr. Peter Puffer.
BTW did I tell you my car runs 12.6@110mph?? I havnt run it yet but I did the math and all signs point to yes. Just check my local forum all the proof is over there.
BTW did I tell you my car runs 12.6@110mph?? I havnt run it yet but I did the math and all signs point to yes.
Just check my local forum all the proof is over there.I did witness EM-EFER....damm his car was fast...I think his was 11.9 @ 117mph
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Originally Posted by nateg35
Yes I did but only 2 belts that can be tighten (the 4 rib & the one on the silver pulley)...I couldn't see where to tight the botton belt..is it something I can do wiithout jacking up the car?
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Alberto i do spin my tires and my back end goes sideways on 3d gear easily, that is why iam spending 6000 $ for new rims and tires, not for the looks. go ahead and call Stillen and ask Dean about it no problems, and don't worry with time you will see that the only bull****ter here is you. and by the way i bet i can kill your *** with a stock Z on a twisty track. and if you have anything interesting to say say it because this post is to help nateg with his problem .
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Alberto i do spin my tires and my back end goes sideways on 3d gear easily, that is why iam spending 6000 $ for new rims and tires, not for the looks. go ahead and call Stillen and ask Dean about it no problems, and don't worry with time you will see that the only bull****ter here is you. and by the way i bet i can kill your *** with a stock Z on a twisty track. and if you have anything interesting to say say it because this post is to help nateg with his problem .
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Originally Posted by Dr.G
Alberto i do spin my tires and my back end goes sideways on 3d gear easily, that is why iam spending 6000 $ for new rims and tires, not for the looks. go ahead and call Stillen and ask Dean about it no problems, and don't worry with time you will see that the only bull****ter here is you. and by the way i bet i can kill your *** with a stock Z on a twisty track. and if you have anything interesting to say say it because this post is to help nateg with his problem .
blah blah blah. You posted some BS, Ive called you out and this is all you can come up with? Just admit you dont even have a time slip. You just lost all credibility on these boards
And you say Im a BS'er? What do I BS? Dyno #'s? Track times? I have proof of everything I claim I dont BS....
<---Dr.GBTW I do believe the Stillen (stage3 and up) is capable of running great times, but because there arent many kits out though we havent seen it. No doubt with 330+whp it could bea solid mid 12 sec car on street tires. Hopefully, we'll have a G here in MD going 12's soon....
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Originally Posted by Dr.G
no that one must be done by a mechanic , it is not simple, and check the path of this belt because it can be easily mounted differently where it also works but not as well. the belts must be tight enough so that if you twist them hard you do it for an angle more than 1/4 of a turn or 90 degrees (you should be able to twist them around 60 degrees)
THANKS...I'll check them so I should be able to twist them around 60, if not then it's wrongly mounted?