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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by doug
please provide links to prove your point, because all the motors that have let go lately apart from Noah has been SC's and ST's..

so please provide some data


no Greddy Kits have blown motors since they found the fix... no APS TT's since the G35c from OH... Noah's JWT ... no PE TT.. please let me know
I am at work so I can't spend the time to search and post links so for the sake of argument I will be wrong.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by redline350ZZ
I am at work so I can't spend the time to search and post links so for the sake of argument I will be wrong.
one of my biggest problems is i spend too much on this board.. and i read.. i read.. i read.. and i get information... for some scary reason i remeber.. people.. their cars.. their motors... i remember.. its scary..
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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^^Get the JWT kit. It is very nice.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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There is always going to be debate on what is safer and more reliable. Do I need a return fuel system, should I go with a UTEC or a F-Con, Is the reflash ok? Do I need a A/F, EGT, Oil, Fuel pressure or Boost Gauge.... blah, blah, blah. The most reliable car on paper can be destroyed by a bad tuner or bad gas or so many other variables. F/I is so expensive and once you start it seems to never end...

But when your car is running it is so damn fun and addictive.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by captj3
Do a compression and leak down test before buying anything to make sure your motor is in good shape.
I also gotta check into that.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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i believe people should choose whatever form of Forced Induction they want... you want a SC Kit.. get a SC Kit... you want a TT Kit.. get a TT Kit.. you want a ST Kit.. get a ST Kit... but get it for the reasons that you want one.. and you like its performance... not because you are scared another form of F/I is going to blow your engine..

we have many people here that have proven that on a stock block all different forms of F/I will last and we many different people who have proven that all different forms of FI will not last..

No kit is 100% perfect out the box and some many need more things than others to run safely.. but its nothing major.. Return Fuel, Bigger Injectors and another form of Engine Management.. but never should someone decide on a form of FI because they feel the other form the really want will blow their motor.. in 2007 its not even a fact anymore.. so please stop scaring people with that B.S.

chances are if you have a weak block.. and your motor went on a TT Kit.. it was going to go on a SC or a ST Kit also..
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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What youre saying is true Doug and I could understand that. But I'm sure a TT kit on a good block will decrease the life of the stock block compared to say a ST on a good block. I know that no kit is really 100% perfect. But once again I'm not going for big power. Just something I can play around with. If I were to go FI I would have the money to buy some safety equipment. But not build the block.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Everybodywildou
But I'm sure a TT kit on a good block will decrease the life of the stock block compared to say a ST on a good block.
Wanna try to elaborate on how?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Everybodywildou
What youre saying is true Doug and I could understand that. But I'm sure a TT kit on a good block will decrease the life of the stock block compared to say a ST on a good block. I know that no kit is really 100% perfect. But once again I'm not going for big power. Just something I can play around with. If I were to go FI I would have the money to buy some safety equipment. But not build the block.
actually you are saying the complete opposite of what i said... like i said.. in the past year.. more SC's and ST's have blown more stock blocks than TT's.. what you are saying is incorrect

Oleg like myself is cursed with reading this forum too much.. he can tell you the same thing too..
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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to narrow it down, the SC's blowing engines in the past year seem to have been 1 or 2 stillen SC and maybe 1 procharger? I am always welcoming people who have blown up their engine with a vortech to PM me and still no one has - and I haven't seen anyone blow up stock blocks with one since about a year and a half ago

as far as ST kits I can recall blowing engines, they're mostly TN kits right? I don't recall any APS ST kits blowing up engines.

As far as TT blowing engines up, there was a greddy or two blowing up engines and then an APS TT G35. There was a local (AZ) APS TT that blew up but it was due to a miss-shift and overrev.

The JWT TT kit recently blew up, but the jury seems to be out on that weather the clutch caused the engine to blow up or not
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by doug
actually you are saying the complete opposite of what i said... like i said.. in the past year.. more SC's and ST's have blown more stock blocks than TT's.. what you are saying is incorrect

Oleg like myself is cursed with reading this forum too much.. he can tell you the same thing too..
...boost is boost and it's the state of tune that breaks stuff. Some setups are more efficient then others, but with a good tune nothing should blow up. as long as you stay within reasonable limits.

People buying TT's generally are willing to throw more coin around, so they end up with safer setups, that's all at least in my opinion.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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The one Vortech I read about on the "other" 350z forum a while back wasn't on a stock set-up. It was messed with.

The TN 350z's that I read gave out like Alberto were putting almost 400tq out or had over boost issues. S/C kits generally put out only 320tq and produce power different from a Turbo. A more liner increase in power will stress a engine less than compared to say a TN kit that produces a surge of about 380tq building up around 4000RPM.

Flame on.....
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by redline350ZZ
The one Vortech I read about on the "other" 350z forum a while back wasn't on a stock set-up. It was messed with.

The TN 350z's that I read gave out like Alberto were putting almost 400tq out or had over boost issues. S/C kits generally put out only 320tq and produce power different from a Turbo. A more liner increase in power will stress a engine less than compared to say a TN kit that produces a surge of about 380tq building up around 4000RPM.

Flame on.....
Exactly what I was thinking in terms of why TT kits may be more prone to blowing blocks. More torque and more power throughout most of the RPM range. But yest let the flaming begin.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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here is what i came up with in a 1 year time period

Turbonetics ST

1) veilside350zTT - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor

2) Alberto - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor

3) Ahmads350z - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor

4) xluv2eatx - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor

5) ipcheck - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor

6) redman333 - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor


APS TT

1) Big Bri - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor

2) Calimarc - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor

3) BrianLG35c - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor


Procharger

1) rollin350z - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor

2) Jorgeoliverira - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ght=procharger


Greddy TT

1) BamBam - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor

2) HoldThisForMe - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor

3) mazx6 - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor


JWT TT

1) NoahzBurnt - https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=blown+motor


Stillen SC

1) username - https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/238880-blown-engine-stage-ii-sc.html
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Doug have you ever considered becoming a Moderator...lol
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by redline350ZZ
Doug have you ever considered becoming a Moderator...lol
i applied.. but i think i was too much of an opinionated A-hole to get the job... but i own and run the maxima board so i have no thirst for power
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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You have both a Z and Maxima? My moms got an 04 Maxima. Great car, except for the stupid front struts and bose stereo cutting sound out all the time.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Everybodywildou
You have both a Z and Maxima? My moms got an 04 Maxima. Great car, except for the stupid front struts and bose stereo cutting sound out all the time.
nah i have a Jeep and a Z .. i sold the maxima Jan 06
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Z is the better choice, which is pretty obvious anyway
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