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06-27-2007, 03:58 PM
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Personally if it were me I don't see how ANY reply would suffice this has turned into a MOB. From reading this thread from the beginning I see there are SOME posters who may have legitimate issues but for the most part the majority of posts are from either previous employees of VRT or from posters who have no intrest in VRT other than bashing them.
06-27-2007, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
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Basically you guys are saying that I could say anything I want about any shop and because I say it, it is the truth? So then it is soley their responsibility to prove themselves? I am going to an extreme here and not saying this is the case at all, but I could teoretically then come on here and say that XYZ company was supposed to install a built engine in my car and they didnt. Even if I had never been there you would believe that statement? How do we have proof, you HAVE to have proof to judge someone and sorry fallenromeo, your word does not count as proof in my book. Even though I have no reason to think he would lie, we cant just accept what people say as the truth.
So you are telling me that what I just said above in bold is beyond logical reasoning?
Basically you guys are saying that I could say anything I want about any shop and because I say it, it is the truth? So then it is soley their responsibility to prove themselves? I am going to an extreme here and not saying this is the case at all, but I could teoretically then come on here and say that XYZ company was supposed to install a built engine in my car and they didnt. Even if I had never been there you would believe that statement? How do we have proof, you HAVE to have proof to judge someone and sorry fallenromeo, your word does not count as proof in my book. Even though I have no reason to think he would lie, we cant just accept what people say as the truth.
So you are telling me that what I just said above in bold is beyond logical reasoning?
try and make the same thread about one of the reputable shops around here...i doubt it would get very far because
A) people trust them
B) they would defend their business practices
VRT's reputation hasn't exactly been squeaky clean.
06-27-2007, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
I am not saying that there is lying going on by the customers here,
Originally Posted by Navygolf13
You have said that before.....my point is that from an objective standpoint how can we take that as truth?
You are trying to sit here and act like you are not a nut hugger of VRT when you flip flopping like this clearly shows you are just fervently protecting them for some reason unknown by the rest of us. You clearly said, No one knows but the customer and VRT, I WAS THE CUSTOMER! I told you what happened and how it went down. That is the truth. If it wasn't the truth, if I DID know I was getting used suspension and paying a price that seemed high even for new, if I knew this ahead of time, why would I pay it, and why would I post about it? I have been honest the whole time from posting what happened to the happy resolution that I had. You need to get real here. You are just digging a hole by flip flopping like this.
Originally Posted by Navygolf13
I am a person who will not sit by when someone is not being given fair treatment.
06-27-2007, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
What other people.....I have only heard from fallenromeo, g-x, roadster as clients of VRT and the OP(ex-employee).
The reason it came this far is so many people here jump to conclusions.....
CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY IT IS OKAY FOR SOMEONE TO ACUSE WITHOUT PROOF? There has only been what people say and everyone takes it as gospel? Am I wrong?
The reason it came this far is so many people here jump to conclusions.....
CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY IT IS OKAY FOR SOMEONE TO ACUSE WITHOUT PROOF? There has only been what people say and everyone takes it as gospel? Am I wrong?
proof...finally got the dyno
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/282572-disappointing-dyno-help.html
any help from u F1 gurus would be appreciated
nothing personnel but u dont have to post there navygolf
06-27-2007, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
People that have a clue have been saying VRT is complete and utter crap for years...
Back in 2005 about VRT...
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....&highlight=VRT
Myself, max2000jp, Gdriver, and a number of other people in that thread knew back then that these guys are a complete joke when their outlandish claims immediately tripped the BS-meter.
I didn't know they were crooks, I just thought they were liars and idiots.
Back in 2005 about VRT...
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....&highlight=VRT
Myself, max2000jp, Gdriver, and a number of other people in that thread knew back then that these guys are a complete joke when their outlandish claims immediately tripped the BS-meter.
I didn't know they were crooks, I just thought they were liars and idiots.
06-27-2007, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
People that have a clue have been saying VRT is complete and utter crap for years...
Back in 2005 about VRT...
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....&highlight=VRT
Myself, max2000jp, Gdriver, and a number of other people in that thread knew back then that these guys are a complete joke when their outlandish claims immediately tripped the BS-meter.
I didn't know they were crooks, I just thought they were liars and idiots.
Back in 2005 about VRT...
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....&highlight=VRT
Myself, max2000jp, Gdriver, and a number of other people in that thread knew back then that these guys are a complete joke when their outlandish claims immediately tripped the BS-meter.
I didn't know they were crooks, I just thought they were liars and idiots.
at that thread....and 2 years later i have yet to see a dynojet #
06-27-2007, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
How do we have proof, you HAVE to have proof to judge someone and sorry fallenromeo, your word does not count as proof in my book. Even though I have no reason to think he would lie, we cant just accept what people say as the truth.
I want proof that the clutch you sold was good. I want proof the body kit you sold was authentic and not a replica. I want proof that you plan to pay the gy the $300. I want proof that you can't give him the $300 now or for the past months that you have owed him the money. Sorry Navy your word doesn't count as proof. I just can't accept what you say as truth. I want proof you have never had any issues with VRT. Take the money VRT pays you to come into these threads and question every single person and pay the guy you owe money to. You have a built motor twin turbo'd 350z but can't give a guy his $300.
06-27-2007, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dave079
Yes VRT does have to prove they didn't do anything wrong if they dont want to lose a hell of a lot of business. CarbonLTD came and made things right in their thread by proving themselves. Why would someone lie about getting used parts anyway?
You didnt answer whether others have to prove things to you. Do you take it at face value no matter what?
06-27-2007, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
AGAIN, you dont read the whole thing. I never said he lied about getting used parts!!! How many times do I have to tell you something before you listen?
You didnt answer whether others have to prove things to you. Do you take it at face value no matter what?
You didnt answer whether others have to prove things to you. Do you take it at face value no matter what?
06-27-2007, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by g-X
Dont forget PALFX...his seems to be the worst. Also, I've gotten couple PMs of people who dont wanna post but has had serious issues.
proof...finally got the dyno
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282572
any help from u F1 gurus would be appreciated
nothing personnel but u dont have to post there navygolf
proof...finally got the dyno
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282572
any help from u F1 gurus would be appreciated
nothing personnel but u dont have to post there navygolf
WTF??!!!/ is that dyno reall is the worst tune ever!!~
its jsut soo bad to be real!....
06-27-2007, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fallenromeo
Really? See quote below.
So what are you saying then? Because I just told you what happened and you are sitting here calling me a liar.
You are trying to sit here and act like you are not a nut hugger of VRT when you flip flopping like this clearly shows you are just fervently protecting them for some reason unknown by the rest of us. You clearly said, No one knows but the customer and VRT, I WAS THE CUSTOMER! I told you what happened and how it went down. That is the truth. If it wasn't the truth, if I DID know I was getting used suspension and paying a price that seemed high even for new, if I knew this ahead of time, why would I pay it, and why would I post about it? I have been honest the whole time from posting what happened to the happy resolution that I had. You need to get real here. You are just digging a hole by flip flopping like this.
The people that have been posting their experiences here got the unfair treatment obviously. Not the company that got the big checks.
So what are you saying then? Because I just told you what happened and you are sitting here calling me a liar.
You are trying to sit here and act like you are not a nut hugger of VRT when you flip flopping like this clearly shows you are just fervently protecting them for some reason unknown by the rest of us. You clearly said, No one knows but the customer and VRT, I WAS THE CUSTOMER! I told you what happened and how it went down. That is the truth. If it wasn't the truth, if I DID know I was getting used suspension and paying a price that seemed high even for new, if I knew this ahead of time, why would I pay it, and why would I post about it? I have been honest the whole time from posting what happened to the happy resolution that I had. You need to get real here. You are just digging a hole by flip flopping like this.
The people that have been posting their experiences here got the unfair treatment obviously. Not the company that got the big checks.
06-27-2007, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
WTF??!!!/ is that dyno reall is the worst tune ever!!~
its jsut soo bad to be real!....
i know it looks and seems funny...but from my shoes it dont... sry
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06-27-2007, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dave079
No but this is a case where beyond a reasonable doubt VRT are in the wrong here. You didnt respond to the guys statement of whether you are the one who insures VRT's building. Its a very interesting question to have an answer to. Not saying if he is just saying it to say it or if its truthful.
06-27-2007, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ZU L8R
Only reason this thread is still open is so VRT can respond. Everyone else needs to stop posting becuase it's pointless.
Speaking of quagmire... Navygolf makes me
. All I can picture is the greased up deaf guy. You can't pin him down and he doesn't hear a word you're saying.
06-27-2007, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
I will hold my final determination until everyone has proved their side.
One more thing, if I knew I was getting used parts, paid way too much money for them anyways, then still posted a thread, why would anyone go out of their way to make things right with me? Why did he give me back the money for the restock fee and change the exhaust if that was what I asked for in the first place? He would just have to say, "that is what you wanted, go F*ck yourself." But that is not what I asked for, and certainly not what I paid for, that is why he was very quick to correct what was wrong and make things up to me.
I don't have a problem with VRT. MrA made things good to me and im happy. I don't like how your one sided arguments are only protecting the business while you pretend to be impartial. People got screwed and you tell them to shut it because you think the company that did the screwing is being unfairly labeled! Then you call me a liar when I tell you and everyone what happens. What do you stand to gain from this?
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