LOL At this post...
Sharif will agree with the use of a load based dyno, such as the Dyno Dynamics, I can hold various load points such as 1500rpms at -11Hg or at 1500rpms at 2-4 psi and plot the AF and timing for that particular part..While you may never hit EVERY cell, such as 18psi at 500rpms but you can hit every cell you NEED for drivability and WOT.So Sam and Sharif as well as myself do not just plot WOT AF tunning..In fact a good portion of the way the car feels is at 20% load and low RPMs..Your above comment shows the majority of tuners ignorance when it comes to making FAST, DRIVABLE cars..

 

If a son is uneducated, his dad is to blame

 

Uneducated? Lets hear some real knowledge from you and doug besides worthless bantering. You two are a waste of time.

*drops mic*

 

That was th eheadgasket that held together for 14,000 miles at 9psi and 400hp?Same headgasket right Doug?

 

yes sir.. that very same one

 

Picks the mic back up *tap tap* can you hear me now

 

yet thread after thread you choose to entertain our comments.

 

damn

 

It is a public forum as you have said to me before when you harrassed me relentlessly every time I posted..Why dont you take your own advice and add them to your ignore list as I have done to several pests in the past..

 

I talked to Sam about EMS's a while ago and he convinced me that the F-Con was better I think I will listen to top tuners such as Sam.

But I'm sure he's just out to get my money, you know when I'm buying larger injectors and a fuel return system.

 

any consider maybe hes talkking about the HKS IS system or whatever and not the fcon..

hahaha

 

Nope F-Con VPro, I'll take what he said for what it is; I'm gonna stay on stock block for a while and I know the VPro is better (safer . .)

 

i'm on HKS iS.. switched out from the utec when i wanted 500~ rwhp. it did the job, but looks like the utec is getting more stable. i had mine switched when utec went awry for awhile. now, looks like i'll look into the utec again.

 

I was gonna go with the iS but man, that F-Con deal installed and tuned was really good I didn't wanna pass it up.

 

Back on topic you might also want to consider a Haltech. Just as many features for tuning as the Fcon PLUS cam timing control but with the end user tuneability of the UTEC.

 

Ive had no problems with the Utec. 650cc's and made some stupid power with it. Its just fine. Save yourself some money and go with the utec. Having driven a VPro car (BamBam's) yes its nice and smooth, but the whole thing about being able to tell if it drives better than my car? I don't think so. The changes are so minute from a drivers standpoint. Most people just like regurgating what they hear everyone else saying.

 

True on the ignore part.

I haven't harrassed you though, as I've never gone out of my way to irritate you. I think if you look at our history I've just replied to your posts. I admit I let myself get annoyed too easily by some people's remarks.

I swore I said I'd never use ignore but doug is just over and above anything I've seen on these forums as far as being a pest goes.

 

If you give the end user the ability to adjust their cam timing,not that there is tons of power to be made by doing so IMHO, there will be tons of bent valves and blown motors out there..

 

Not every consumer is absolutely incompetent. That's what most Z tuning shops will say but I don't entirely agree. Look at the other aftermarket communities, most of them are less shop-and-wallet based and more do-it-yourself based. Someone that has a high powered setup that warrants a full standalone ems usuallly have the sense to not just start changing variables and turning dials without knowing what they are doing...

...then again, I see some owners here and it makes me want to totally agree with you...

 

LOL. I'll be interested to see how you respond to a dyno with a bone stock Z and its gains from adjusting cam timing alone. Not every end user is a dunce at tuning. The UTEC sells well for exactly this reason and the Fcon as nice as it is has people unwilling to purchase it because they can't self tune. Not everyone has to take their car to a shop to tweak their tune. It's nice that you have such little confidence in the abilities of your potential customers.