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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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HKS is working a new line of superchargers for the VQ motors.I mean for Z's, G's and SUV's. Will now more probably around SEMA time but heres a little teaser I found.enjoy
http://urbanracer.com/articles/anmviewer.asp?a=2647&z=2
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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...and HKS claims power gains anywhere from 30 to 50hp and 40 to 60 lb-ft of torque...
big things, eh?
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rcdash
big things, eh?
yeah compared to... stillen maybe?
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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yeah compared to... stillen maybe?
Maybe he's referring to the price tag?
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Weaksauce... Booo.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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30-50??? that dont make no sense
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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i have seen the turbo kit and supercharger first hand, they make top notch quality kits.

looks like a few more good options for the VQ market for sure..
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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Around $6500 for 30 to 50whp.....ummmmmm BIG things ??????

It said 7 psi on the street SC and 11psi on the off road kit . Even if the 30 to 50 whp is for the 7psi kit...it still is over priced
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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Maybe the HKS rep was trying to describe in broken Engrish the power differences as opposed to their previous blower kit...
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Delivering the best in Hardcore and exclusive JDM brands
I'm holding out for the Hello Kitty supercharger. It should make more power and come in JDM pink.
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Originally Posted by taurran
I'm holding out for the Hello Kitty supercharger. It should make more power and come in JDM pink.
Is that the one on the S2000 in 2 Fast 2 Furious?
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my car can gain over 30hp if i just loose 80 pounds of my waist.
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I posted a thread about this a while ago with that link. They have more on it on their Japan site but good luck with translation LOL

Here is a video of the new SC from youtube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTFks0t5G8M
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Every 1 PSI increase should be about a 7% increase in power. So... 7 lbs of boost should be around 49% increase in HP. It must be a typo or the reporter just mis-quoted.

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Originally Posted by ken350z
Every 1 PSI increase should be about a 7% increase in power. So... 7 lbs of boost should be around 49% increase in HP. It must be a typo or the reporter just mis-quoted.

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That's WAY oversimplified. There are so many other factors in the equation that I could never agree.
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Originally Posted by TENGAI
Weaksauce... Booo.

before i do the +1 ...is this at WG stock/spring boost???
as in... maybe the kit can make 500whp by turning up the boost...
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Yes, it is a simplification but not so much as to not prove that an increase 50hp with a 7lb boost doesn't make sense. If you actually have an additional 7 lbs then there must be a addtional amount of fuel being burned to keep the fuel/air ratio correct. If you look at anyones measured hp and their boost there is nearly always a 7% increase per lb.

There certinely can't be more but any less shows some added inefficiency that must be converted into heat..... Just thinking out loud.... a quick calculation...

If you start with a 287hp engine and add 7lbs of boost under idea conditions you get an additional 49% or 140hp. 140 -50 = 90 hp wasted in heat. That is 90 x 746W or 67KW dissipated. Really there's no way that can happen and still be able to keep everything from melting. :-)

I'm not sure if that is a good argument but I have been keeping an eye on that rule of thumb for a while and it seems to hold up reasonably well. Something like 6-7% per lb .

Just my $0.02
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Originally Posted by ken350z
Yes, it is a simplification but not so much as to not prove that an increase 50hp with a 7lb boost doesn't make sense. If you actually have an additional 7 lbs then there must be a addtional amount of fuel being burned to keep the fuel/air ratio correct. If you look at anyones measured hp and their boost there is nearly always a 7% increase per lb.

There certinely can't be more but any less shows some added inefficiency that must be converted into heat..... Just thinking out loud.... a quick calculation...

If you start with a 287hp engine and add 7lbs of boost under idea conditions you get an additional 49% or 140hp. 140 -50 = 90 hp wasted in heat. That is 90 x 746W or 67KW dissipated. Really there's no way that can happen and still be able to keep everything from melting. :-)

I'm not sure if that is a good argument but I have been keeping an eye on that rule of thumb for a while and it seems to hold up reasonably well. Something like 6-7% per lb .

Just my $0.02
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You're not factoring in things like intercooler efficiency, piping, and most importantly, tune. The intercooler that comes with the kit is puny as is. I think it would be good for those weaksauce power levels, but anything more and you'll have to get a larger one and rework that piping.

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before i do the +1 ...is this at WG stock/spring boost???
as in... maybe the kit can make 500whp by turning up the boost...
It's a supercharger. I'm assuming you could swap out belts/pulleys and make more boost, but I see no point as long as Vortech as their current kit which makes more power and is reasonably safe.

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
You're not factoring in things like intercooler efficiency, piping, and most importantly, tune. The intercooler that comes with the kit is puny as is. I think it would be good for those weaksauce power levels, but anything more and you'll have to get a larger one and rework that piping.
Let's assume that it's tuned properly... aren't things like intercooler and piping all about getting the boost? We are talking about already having the 7lbs of boost, it doesn't matter how we got it.

I'm not really arguing with you, I mean this in the spirit of discussion. I'm a electronics type not car guy.

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