Relentless Autosports is NOT VRT, the way it all went down
02-11-2008, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gammawolf
hmmm interesting. Don't come to this forum much, originally came due to the VRT shenanigans and being burned by them, but Scott was banned because of what facts? falsifying a username? what was staged?
Relentless still tunes my Brother's G and we trust him. Believe me, I've been burned by Shady Michael Alvarez before and they are nothing alike.
I've got facts to support myself as a client and Relentless business dealings which are more than legitimate and very satisfactory. Want to know more, PM me.
Relentless still tunes my Brother's G and we trust him. Believe me, I've been burned by Shady Michael Alvarez before and they are nothing alike.
I've got facts to support myself as a client and Relentless business dealings which are more than legitimate and very satisfactory. Want to know more, PM me.
The facts are all posted out in the open by GodZilla himself in the link buzzardmountain provided you in post# 197.
02-11-2008, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gammawolf
Anyways, when I drop off my Brother's G, or my G, I always drop it off at Scott's duplex in El Cajon, CA and then he'll give me a ride to the Trolley Station and I take it back to downtown San Diego where I live. I've seen Mark's garage before and it's much further east in El Cajon. Not much to talk about, it's really modest. But Mark is a good mechanic.
I know they're family friends, so it's not possible for them to use the same Wi-Fi account?
I know they're family friends, so it's not possible for them to use the same Wi-Fi account?
Also, same WiFi and same IP are two COMPLETELY different things... Same IP means same COMPUTER! Anyway, no need to rehash, Godzilla already put that one to rest.
02-11-2008, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gammawolf
I know they're family friends, so it's not possible for them to use the same Wi-Fi account?
Originally Posted by Gammawolf
Here's my observation. Michael Alvarez was shady, he oozed with it. My brother and I left his shop knowing that we were getting jipped, but by then it was too late. Live and Learn. With regards to Scott and Mark at Relentless, it's the complete different story. Night and day difference. So I get a little offended when I hear allegations such as this towards RA when I am a client of RA. That would mean that we've committed the same mistake twice, and I'm telling you, the facts within our vendor-client relationship prove otherwise.
Originally Posted by buzzardmountain
After that comment.......there's no way you read the link I posted.
no kidding Robin
02-11-2008, 01:21 PM
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I honestly don't believe Scott is like Mike A either. He helped me get that STB he designed for the G (before any other was available) on the car and shipped me out a pop-charger for free when I couldn't get the stock airbox to work. I think he does care for his customers. But apparently he played a little fast and loose on some projects, cut corners and made some bad decisions that I doubt he can recover from now. It's a tough business to be in...
02-11-2008, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzardmountain
After that comment.......there's no way you read the link I posted.
...And after a negative experience with VRT, who the hell drops off their car anywhere but the shop that is supposed to be doing the work?!?!?!?
This guy has some serious denial issues.
02-11-2008, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Gammawolf
Something we didn't catch here:
(https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=308530).
(https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=308530).
I also couldn't help but notice ShamrockG all over that post
02-11-2008, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
...And after a negative experience with VRT, who the hell drops off their car anywhere but the shop that is supposed to be doing the work?!?!?!? This guy has some serious denial issues.
Whats that syndrome called when you get kidnapped...but after a few weeks with the kidnapper, you start to side with the kidnapper
02-11-2008, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzardmountain
After that comment.......there's no way you read the link I posted.
And from what I know, Shamrock G was a friend of the family, so it begets the question, don't family friends use the same computer? I go to my In-Laws house and they have a laptop right out in the kitchen, open like a computer in a library. It's not far fetched to believe it was from the same computer if he's a friend of the family.
Moreover, Godzilla said that there were 70+ posts that were from the same IP address, but ShamrockG has 89 posts. Where did the other posts come from?
And does Shamrock G really have Scott's writing style? With all due respect to Scott, he makes plenty of typos and grammatical errors. I read Shamrock G's post in that narrative I wrote and I've read a few more posts of his elsewhere. It's more proper and adheres more to the rules of grammar. Scott doesn't. Scott's not very fancy when he writes.
Yes, you could say that I'm in denial for I don't have access to Godzilla's sources. However, I would think it takes a lot of effort to run dual identities. In this respect, I have to go with my gut and say that Scott doesn't do this. You can't argue with me in this respect, what I'm doing is putting my own rep on the line and vouching for him. No, most of you don't know me since I frequent another forum (6mt.net and Driver when 6mt is slow), however . . .
From being burned by Michael Alvarez, it's easy for me to believe that Mr. A would have an alter alias. Without question. His rep is ****. But I find it hard to believe that Scott, who approaches business with a straight forwardness and has done his best to get out of the shadow of VRT would commence with such foolery.
I mean, seriously, if you developed an alter ego, would you really be stupid enough to use it from the same computer knowing full well the mods/admins see your IP address? I've seen people purposely get banned for that sort of thing on SocalG35.com and 6mt.net We know that kind of stuff happens, it doesn't take Sherlock to figure something out like that, so why would Scott do such a thing? What would he have to gain?
Originally Posted by Philthy
Thanks for posting... I'm still unclear on where you had RA work on your car, is Scott driving your car to Dad's Garage, LLC - Mark Brents shop or someplace else... After all that you went through with VRT, I'm sure you know where your car is getting worked on...?
Mark has a very modest garage waaay out there. It's nothing to rave about, aside from the quality they produce and Mark who is a good gear head. I don't mind it, I know lots of start up companies that got started in a small garage (e.g. Apple). However, I look forward to their new National City location.
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02-11-2008, 02:35 PM
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I honestly don't believe Scott is like Mike A either. He helped me get that STB he designed for the G (before any other was available) on the car and shipped me out a pop-charger for free when I couldn't get the stock airbox to work. I think he does care for his customers. But apparently he played a little fast and loose on some projects, cut corners and made some bad decisions that I doubt he can recover from now. It's a tough business to be in...
02-11-2008, 02:37 PM
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Whats that syndrome called when you get kidnapped...but after a few weeks with the kidnapper, you start to side with the kidnapper
d00d...you killed your own joke with that question hehe
02-11-2008, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Philthy
Also, same WiFi and same IP are two COMPLETELY different things... Same IP means same COMPUTER!
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02-11-2008, 03:47 PM
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Gammawolf is actually a really cool guy.However he was always pointed in the wrong direction.
Anyways good **** on the mods behalf. I love to see squid like ppl get what they deserve. Scott and Mark are apperantly no better than mr. a and i am really happy i did not go work for them.
Relentless Autosports is not VRT they are worse
Anyways good **** on the mods behalf. I love to see squid like ppl get what they deserve. Scott and Mark are apperantly no better than mr. a and i am really happy i did not go work for them.
Relentless Autosports is not VRT they are worse
02-11-2008, 04:11 PM
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jeez, after all that has been said and done in the past year, there are still people begging to get ripped. well you deserve to get it burned, i sincerely hope that you guys do get burned, and burned bad. not out of cruelty, but so that you guys will wake the fck up. its like blindy funding terrorism, ignorance/stupidity doesn't make it ok. QUIT HELPING THOSE LOW-LIVES RIP PEOPLE OFF
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