Relentless Autosports is NOT VRT, the way it all went down
02-12-2008 | 08:51 PM
#301
Originally Posted by Motormouth
assumptions is a better term, my misuse of 'accuse'. tho the buyer did just accuse RA of fraud.
GTM could have also assumed it was not a kit because it did not have a logo and some other issues since Phunk posted that it is possible it is an older design, or only part of the components are his. I trust that sam knows his **** though. but what harm is there in posting pictures? you all act like getting evidence is going to make the issue worse
and a CJM kit is not 100 bucks AFAIK...
and good, if you are done on the matter that is fine, I am not nor was I directing my question at you.
GTM could have also assumed it was not a kit because it did not have a logo and some other issues since Phunk posted that it is possible it is an older design, or only part of the components are his. I trust that sam knows his **** though. but what harm is there in posting pictures? you all act like getting evidence is going to make the issue worse
and a CJM kit is not 100 bucks AFAIK...
and good, if you are done on the matter that is fine, I am not nor was I directing my question at you.
02-12-2008 | 08:54 PM
#303
Originally Posted by Motormouth
I assumed you meant if GTM sold him a whole new fuel system. like replacing the fake CJM system since you said 'sell them a new one'.
what did you mean? just replacement parts?
what did you mean? just replacement parts?
02-12-2008 | 08:55 PM
#304
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
I assumed you meant if GTM sold him a whole new fuel system. like replacing the fake CJM system since you said 'sell them a new one'.
what did you mean? just replacement parts?
what did you mean? just replacement parts?
02-12-2008 | 08:57 PM
#305
ah I get what you mean (I am burned) they sell the CJM for xxx but thier cost is xxx so they only make 100 bucks in the end
on this note, I am going to bed as obviously my eye sight is failing me
on this note, I am going to bed as obviously my eye sight is failing me
02-12-2008 | 09:33 PM
#307
Here are the pictures of the fuel system the customer received, earlier I posted there was a hardline that was kinked, that was a mistake on my part, this kit did not come with a hard line, the kinked hardline was from another car.
What you see in this kit is ALL that we were supplied by the customer.
For reference, CJM Rails: http://cj-motorsports.com/cat005.htm
This kit is not complete, the lines are not up to our standards, and the injectors fit loosely in the rails, can you rig this up and make it work? Sure you can, but would you really want to risk the possibility of fuel leaks in your engine?
The only item we did utilize from this kit that is not pictured is an Aeromotive FPR.
-George
GT Motorsports
What you see in this kit is ALL that we were supplied by the customer.
For reference, CJM Rails: http://cj-motorsports.com/cat005.htm
This kit is not complete, the lines are not up to our standards, and the injectors fit loosely in the rails, can you rig this up and make it work? Sure you can, but would you really want to risk the possibility of fuel leaks in your engine?
The only item we did utilize from this kit that is not pictured is an Aeromotive FPR.
-George
GT Motorsports
02-12-2008 | 09:39 PM
#308
so its a cjm knock off with shitty lines?...and incomplete??
regadless...lol as someone posted..its easy to see how the cjm kit looks and what it comes with...ra should have known this and also not state the kit had all it needed
regadless...lol as someone posted..its easy to see how the cjm kit looks and what it comes with...ra should have known this and also not state the kit had all it needed
Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
I am selling a CJ Motorsports stage 2 fuel return system. This system is complete and even comes with the entire drop in Walbro fuel pump plumbed into the tank drop in sending unit (saves you time and about $400). Whole kit ready to go, was used for less than 1K miles. $1000 obo. I also have some RC 550 cc injectors for it available.... will negotiate
PM or e-mail me at wa2good@vrt?.com
PM or e-mail me at wa2good@vrt?.com
Last edited by IIQuickSilverII; 02-12-2008 at 09:47 PM.
02-12-2008 | 09:48 PM
#309
OK, that is not a CJM kit. Not a single part except the return correction kit inside the pump housing looks like it probably is. The rails are made by ross machine racing. The hoses are typically twist together hoses you can get at summit or any speed shop that stocks earls, aeroquip, ross, etc.
02-12-2008 | 09:50 PM
#310
Originally Posted by phunk
OK, that is not a CJM kit. Not a single part except the return correction kit inside the pump housing looks like it probably is. The rails are made by ross machine racing. The hoses are typically twist together hoses you can get at summit or any speed shop that stocks earls, aeroquip, ross, etc.
pwnage #10001 verified
...... and he wanted to sell it for 1000$ 
02-12-2008 | 10:11 PM
#312
Originally Posted by phunk
OK, that is not a CJM kit. Not a single part except the return correction kit inside the pump housing looks like it probably is. The rails are made by ross machine racing. The hoses are typically twist together hoses you can get at summit or any speed shop that stocks earls, aeroquip, ross, etc.
...But... But... The original owner's build sheet said it was a CJM fuel system! (RA/VRT defense)
IMO, the fact that these guys don't know how to recognize a quality return fuel system specific to the Z/G and don't have enough sense to verify authenticity before selling it as a genuine CJM fuel system are compelling reasons why people shouldn't be doing business with them.
How many more times and in how many more ways does RA have to be exposed before the diehard few realize and accept that these guys are jackasses who shouldn't be in the industry???
02-13-2008 | 12:12 AM
#313
Originally Posted by FrickU
I can even chime in on this one, I was there and remembered this particular fuel system that Scott sold. It was on a customers car that had a supercharger installed with a stock motor installed by another shop and was brought in with a blown motor. The car was instructed to be returned to stock so that it could be traded in. And everything that was on the car was to be sold. The sold list of parts included several things along with this fuel system. The list of mods recieved by the customer and the builder listed the return system be a CJM product. I just got done finished talking to Scott on the phone about this since I remember it well. He informed me to go ahead and let the buyer (SPRacing) know about the mistake so they can make it right.
Just out of curiousity....Why didn't you call Scott when you had the problem? I mean you did buy this system in 2006, and this is the first you say anything?
SPRacing. PM sent
Just out of curiousity....Why didn't you call Scott when you had the problem? I mean you did buy this system in 2006, and this is the first you say anything?
SPRacing. PM sent
the system was at a friends place in socal. When i received it just recently, didnt really had to chance to look at as my car was getting tow to GTM.
02-13-2008 | 12:36 AM
#314
Originally Posted by George@GTM
Here are the pictures of the fuel system the customer received, earlier I posted there was a hardline that was kinked, that was a mistake on my part, this kit did not come with a hard line, the kinked hardline was from another car.
What you see in this kit is ALL that we were supplied by the customer.
For reference, CJM Rails: http://cj-motorsports.com/cat005.htm
This kit is not complete, the lines are not up to our standards, and the injectors fit loosely in the rails, can you rig this up and make it work? Sure you can, but would you really want to risk the possibility of fuel leaks in your engine?
The only item we did utilize from this kit that is not pictured is an Aeromotive FPR.
-George
GT Motorsports
What you see in this kit is ALL that we were supplied by the customer.
For reference, CJM Rails: http://cj-motorsports.com/cat005.htm
This kit is not complete, the lines are not up to our standards, and the injectors fit loosely in the rails, can you rig this up and make it work? Sure you can, but would you really want to risk the possibility of fuel leaks in your engine?
The only item we did utilize from this kit that is not pictured is an Aeromotive FPR.
-George
GT Motorsports
02-13-2008 | 12:43 AM
#315
for those that understand how i feel, thanks for your support. But for those that don't, i dont know what to tell you. Regardless of how long ago i bought it, how much it was, or anything, post stated "complete CJM stage 2 system", and that is what im suppose to get. meaning, i get the rails too. But i guess after all said and done, a deal is a deal. so GTM doesn't need to be involve in any of these conversations.
02-13-2008 | 03:50 AM
#316
Another update:
RA FINALLY comes clean, They DO NOT HAVE A SHOP - they now claim to share one with Dad's Garage... I had a friend of mine that live in CA call Dad's Garage and ask for RA - the person on the phone was very annoyed and said, 'this is Dad's Garage, not Relentless Autosports!' This confirms what Derek posted that Mark Brent stated he is NOT RA and he will build motors for anyone...
RA is now 'Sharing' a shop...
Motormouth - why aren't you pounding on the RA nuthuggers for the FAKE EPA and California Bureau of Automotive Repair #'s that were posted and for not answering Romey's questions...? Will you be just as aggressive now that RA finally admitted they don't have a shop, but now share one... 
RA FINALLY comes clean, They DO NOT HAVE A SHOP - they now claim to share one with Dad's Garage... I had a friend of mine that live in CA call Dad's Garage and ask for RA - the person on the phone was very annoyed and said, 'this is Dad's Garage, not Relentless Autosports!' This confirms what Derek posted that Mark Brent stated he is NOT RA and he will build motors for anyone...
RA is now 'Sharing' a shop...
Our current shop (which is also shared by Dad's Garage, Marks shop) is very meeger and very humble
Last edited by Philthy; 02-13-2008 at 03:52 AM.
02-13-2008 | 06:06 AM
#317
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D@mn Phil....because of your successful investigation of RA....it has rendered my trademark on the word "VooDoo" WORTHLESS !! Thanks for nothing bro
Its always good to see a good "Ownage"...but this one is getting painful. Let Scott RIP.
All I can say is that all scammers will think twice when they see the name Philthy
Good to see that your Ban was lifted.
Its always good to see a good "Ownage"...but this one is getting painful. Let Scott RIP.
All I can say is that all scammers will think twice when they see the name Philthy
Good to see that your Ban was lifted.
Last edited by XKR; 02-13-2008 at 06:21 AM.
02-13-2008 | 06:10 AM
#318
Originally Posted by Philthy
Motormouth - why aren't you pounding on the RA nuthuggers for the FAKE EPA and California Bureau of Automotive Repair #'s that were posted and for not answering Romey's questions...? Will you be just as aggressive now that RA finally admitted they don't have a shop, but now share one...
j/k
02-13-2008 | 06:28 AM
#320
Originally Posted by doug
where is Motormouth.. i could have sworn by his posts he was 100% the kit was CJM.. its like he bought and installed it himself