Procharger SC pic on the Z!!
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Originally posted by slay2k
I'll have some of what you're smoking
I assume you mean 315-330... and if so, fine. However, slicks don't usually give 4/10th of a second.. and 19's don't do much of anything to ETs, more than perhaps 1/10th.
Either way, 13.3 sucks >_< I need to see ET's at 7psi... and they better be mid-to-low 12's.
I'll have some of what you're smoking
I assume you mean 315-330... and if so, fine. However, slicks don't usually give 4/10th of a second.. and 19's don't do much of anything to ETs, more than perhaps 1/10th.
Either way, 13.3 sucks >_< I need to see ET's at 7psi... and they better be mid-to-low 12's.
01 Black Z06.
345 rwhp 350 rwtq
12.1 at 114.43 mph.
1.74 60' on bfg's
Now if the Z weighs the same basically as a Z06, has about same tires (Mine are actually 295 rear vs 285 Z06), and at 7PSI is putting out 369rwhp then i am thinking it better be running equal to or better than a 12.1. Am I wrong? If I am, then why?
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Track conditions today were pretty good. Low 70s, little humidity, etc. The Z really wasn't launching that hard, as you'll be able to see as soon as I send the video to someone who offered to host it.
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Originally posted by Del350
It should put in the range of 215-230 to the wheels at 4.5 psi. Thats my math and I am no expert on sc's but it can't be to far off. A 13.3 is a good time from the pictures he has 19's on his car whith street tires. The greddy car had drag radials that good for a big drop in 60 ft.
It should put in the range of 215-230 to the wheels at 4.5 psi. Thats my math and I am no expert on sc's but it can't be to far off. A 13.3 is a good time from the pictures he has 19's on his car whith street tires. The greddy car had drag radials that good for a big drop in 60 ft.
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Originally posted by slay2k
I'll have some of what you're smoking
I assume you mean 315-330... and if so, fine. However, slicks don't usually give 4/10th of a second.. and 19's don't do much of anything to ETs, more than perhaps 1/10th.
Either way, 13.3 sucks >_< I need to see ET's at 7psi... and they better be mid-to-low 12's.
I'll have some of what you're smoking
I assume you mean 315-330... and if so, fine. However, slicks don't usually give 4/10th of a second.. and 19's don't do much of anything to ETs, more than perhaps 1/10th.
Either way, 13.3 sucks >_< I need to see ET's at 7psi... and they better be mid-to-low 12's.
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Originally posted by demon
Does anyone know what the Maxima's VQ30DE compression ratio is? If it is lower than the Z's (10.3:1) then comparing Maxima boosted numbers to the Z is far from appropriate.
Does anyone know what the Maxima's VQ30DE compression ratio is? If it is lower than the Z's (10.3:1) then comparing Maxima boosted numbers to the Z is far from appropriate.
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Originally posted by jran76
10.1 on the Maxima's VQ30. You figure if the Maxima can safely handle 11-12 lbs, the Z can take 10.
10.1 on the Maxima's VQ30. You figure if the Maxima can safely handle 11-12 lbs, the Z can take 10.
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The Procharger Z has the 6 spoke I-forged 19" wheels, non-rivots.
I believe he has 245/40 fronts and 275/35 rears since he basically based my car as a reference for his order with I-forged and his selection of tires.
I ran a 14.1 best on my 19" I-forged Aero's with rivots on same size tires at the exact same track(KCIR) and my car is bare bone stock. I only wish I would have been able to make it out to see for myself, possibly even line up against him. Too bad I didn't have my pulleys, Injen Dual exhaust, light flywheel/clutch and a CAI, I would have given him a run for his money at just over 2K.
I believe he has 245/40 fronts and 275/35 rears since he basically based my car as a reference for his order with I-forged and his selection of tires.
I ran a 14.1 best on my 19" I-forged Aero's with rivots on same size tires at the exact same track(KCIR) and my car is bare bone stock. I only wish I would have been able to make it out to see for myself, possibly even line up against him. Too bad I didn't have my pulleys, Injen Dual exhaust, light flywheel/clutch and a CAI, I would have given him a run for his money at just over 2K.
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Originally posted by Chebosto
no one answered my question on why the MAF sensor is so high up!!
that's the big no no..
no one answered my question on why the MAF sensor is so high up!!
that's the big no no..
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stop making excuses.. 13.3sec on a "supercharged" 350z that is known to run 13.9-14.2sec stock is not something to be jumping up and down about. Even though he is just "tuning" the car, why would you run 4.5psi when the kit comes standard 7psi~? this is not a home made kit, it's suppose to be a professionally made kit that cost more than $5400 (parts only)!! some of you may think this is a steal, but I work hard for my money and I want to spend it on the best kit for the dollar!
so far, it does not impressive most of us here...
comments are welcome..
so far, it does not impressive most of us here...
comments are welcome..
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HA!
Fitment, hell no. all he has to do i drill a hole, and retap the sensor... MAF should take readings of air BEFORE boost to get correct air flow readings.. not AFTER boost.... *sigh*
Fitment, hell no. all he has to do i drill a hole, and retap the sensor... MAF should take readings of air BEFORE boost to get correct air flow readings.. not AFTER boost.... *sigh*
Originally posted by menehune
I had the same thoughts also. I'm no specialist, but I had notice on other sc systems (Mustangs) the TB is before the sc. I can understand if it might be a fitment issue. ????
I had the same thoughts also. I'm no specialist, but I had notice on other sc systems (Mustangs) the TB is before the sc. I can understand if it might be a fitment issue. ????
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Originally posted by Dr Bonz
What was that red car he went up against in the video? Can anyone catch his time/trap?
What was that red car he went up against in the video? Can anyone catch his time/trap?
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I can understand why you guys feel the car is slow for the kind of power it's supposed to put down, but you guys don't realize a lot of factors. Just because you have 400hp in any car doesn't mean you're going to be running low 12's right out the bat. Supras that have 600hp might only run 12's, but get that thing on the hwy and all you're gonna see is taillights.
It's about traction and driver skills. My 99 GS-t (fwd) ran a 13.7@107. The time sucks but the mph was nice, it said I was making some good power. That's what you guys should be looking at, NOT times.
For some reason so many of you LIVE by 0-60 times and 1/4 times.
If this silver Z runs 7psi and runs the 1/4 mile with a 110-112 mph, then it's good for some low 12's. How many will run that? not many, until you practice and have sticky tires.
It's about traction and driver skills. My 99 GS-t (fwd) ran a 13.7@107. The time sucks but the mph was nice, it said I was making some good power. That's what you guys should be looking at, NOT times.
For some reason so many of you LIVE by 0-60 times and 1/4 times.
If this silver Z runs 7psi and runs the 1/4 mile with a 110-112 mph, then it's good for some low 12's. How many will run that? not many, until you practice and have sticky tires.
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Originally posted by 99AllTurbo
I can understand why you guys feel the car is slow for the kind of power it's supposed to put down, but you guys don't realize a lot of factors. Just because you have 400hp in any car doesn't mean you're going to be running low 12's right out the bat. Supras that have 600hp might only run 12's, but get that thing on the hwy and all you're gonna see is taillights.
It's about traction and driver skills. My 99 GS-t (fwd) ran a 13.7@107. The time sucks but the mph was nice, it said I was making some good power. That's what you guys should be looking at, NOT times.
For some reason so many of you LIVE by 0-60 times and 1/4 times.
If this silver Z runs 7psi and runs the 1/4 mile with a 110-112 mph, then it's good for some low 12's. How many will run that? not many, until you practice and have sticky tires.
I can understand why you guys feel the car is slow for the kind of power it's supposed to put down, but you guys don't realize a lot of factors. Just because you have 400hp in any car doesn't mean you're going to be running low 12's right out the bat. Supras that have 600hp might only run 12's, but get that thing on the hwy and all you're gonna see is taillights.
It's about traction and driver skills. My 99 GS-t (fwd) ran a 13.7@107. The time sucks but the mph was nice, it said I was making some good power. That's what you guys should be looking at, NOT times.
For some reason so many of you LIVE by 0-60 times and 1/4 times.
If this silver Z runs 7psi and runs the 1/4 mile with a 110-112 mph, then it's good for some low 12's. How many will run that? not many, until you practice and have sticky tires.
Jeff
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What octane gas was the car running on the posted dyno chart? Is this on 91 pump gas? Has teh car been dyno'd on race gas, 95 octane, 100 octane, and thereforth?
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Well either way this kit looks a bit more on the safer side, MONEY wise at least ( 6k-7k+ for the greddy turbo not to mention the 20 hour install fee which would probably end up being nearly a 8.5k to a 9k job overall ). I dont see anything wrong with the times it is running simply because right now i bet they are shooting more for consistancy than *record* times. Remember this is R&D development not final stage pushing the limits testing. But it does take awhile for everyone to fine tune their car for the track. I would imagine the computer is stock or close to it. And i bet they are trying to find a safe level of boost to tune it to without pinging or knocking without retarding. With my 01 SVT Lightning it took me around 4 re-burns of my stock chip to get the right setup and timing for me to run my record time. I ran a 12.51 at 120mph with a 60ft of 1.6 and my boost levels were nearly ridiculous at 16lbs. The horsepower to weight ratio just about evens out to almost the same as my truck. I would love to see our cars scream at 11-12 lbs but i doubt the bottom end of these engines would hold up due to the high compression we put out.
Procharger 350z
Weight : 3390lbs (estimate?)
369 hp
323 tq
boost 4lbs
My Old 01 Lightning
Weight :4840lbs
440hp
580tq
boost 16lbs
Procharger 350z
Weight : 3390lbs (estimate?)
369 hp
323 tq
boost 4lbs
My Old 01 Lightning
Weight :4840lbs
440hp
580tq
boost 16lbs
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Originally posted by zland
Ok, lets go over it again, I posted this but I guess everyone does not read the thread. The Z was running 4.5 psi of boost, NOT 7psi that was dyno'ed at 369rwhp. Guess what guys, this car is NOT running at 369rwhp
Ok, lets go over it again, I posted this but I guess everyone does not read the thread. The Z was running 4.5 psi of boost, NOT 7psi that was dyno'ed at 369rwhp. Guess what guys, this car is NOT running at 369rwhp
With enough track time, the 1/4 mile times will get lower, but there's also more chance for breakage when you visit the track too often. You pay to play.
Johnnybalze is right, they are not going for record times.
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videos!!
ok im am not the best at computer stuff and i really am interested in seeing this car run. I usualy watch the videos using windows media player and i do not know how to use winzip. if anyone could explain it, it would be helpful
-thanks a lot
-thanks a lot