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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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I still am going to preach cams!!!!!!!!!!! Do'em now.

You are going to peak your power at 6250rpm and it will drop like a rock from there. Ask me how I know again....you will be able to make the power you want on less boost AND a safer tune with cams vs w/o.

If you are going this far, especially with people that have already been there, this is a no-brainer to me.

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BlinkerFluid
I'm sure jt has a pretty good idea of cost of ownership for one of these as he has been boosted for quite some time, and pushed the car hard enough that he accepted the fact that he may have a failure at any time. It's easy for me to say that though since I have known him for a while and I see how he drives the car, as Cass has attested to earlier.

As for long term, I have 24K on my built engine TT car in the past 13 months. Not the longest amount of time, but I'm sure I put more miles on my car than most in such a short amount of time. I beat on it constantly. I'm also halfway through my 3rd set of rear tires if that is any indicator. Of course, you could just ask Sharif about how I drive the car... sometimes sideways trying to merge onto the highway.

Not once has it failed to start, left me sit, or even missed a beat for that matter. It has never even given me a reason to question it's reliability at any time and I wouldn't hesitate to jump in it right now and do a 2000 mile round trip, as I have a few times in this car as it sits.

I'm failing to see where all the extra cost of ownership of such a car is coming from. I change the oil every 5K miles, clean the air fliters every other oil change, swap the sparkplugs every 20k and the tires when they're bald. A little bit of extra time here and there during oil changes to inspect oil and coolant lines, and also the intercooler piping. Really it there isn't much more to it when it is built and tuned properly, here in my world anyhow.

Maybe I'm just numb to it from owning a DSM for the better part of a decade.
yeah, and what would your response be if the 20% of DSM owners who have had no problems with their cars posted a response just like you did? a few shouldnt speak behalf of the majority.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexx
yeah, and what would your response be if the 20% of DSM owners who have had no problems with their cars posted a response just like you did? a few shouldnt speak behalf of the majority.

Probably the same as doug's to me. They're either lucky, or good. I don't know about being blessed though, as far as I thought, god only got involved in NASCAR racing.

It surely wouldn't be a response insinuating that I don't care about their point of view or experiences because they aren't part of this "majority." I take all posts as equal and something can be taken from all except those who are known to be unreliable.

At the same time the minority should not be silenced. How long ago was it that the ones who are running the most prolific shops in the country now, building and tuning cars, were part of that minority?
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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jtgti- are you going to be running a stock fuel pump with an inline pump?

btw there's a haltech for sale for 1500 shipped in the marketplace. you should jump on it.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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No, I already have an intank walbro with AAM's basic Fuel return system. I will be using a -6 an feed line straight off of the pump assembly and running it into a Bosch 044 inline pump and then up into the oem rails.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BlinkerFluid
I thought god only got involved in NASCAR racing.
No the Nascar crowd banished God when they let Toyota in.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Has anyone pushed the stock rails that far before?

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Originally Posted by jtgli
No, I already have an intank walbro with AAM's basic Fuel return system. I will be using a -6 an feed line straight off of the pump assembly and running it into a Bosch 044 inline pump and then up into the oem rails.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by thom000001
Has anyone pushed the stock rails that far before?

Tom
only Scott Bush
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Well Cass was able to achieve 648whp I belive that was the # on Dave DD with the stock rails and single pump with meth. I think that the added pump will allow me greater head room in my power goals.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by doug
only Scott Bush
Hey, hey don't insult the Z/G master Bush like that OP is running UTEC not SS box. And he isnt running a 14 gauge power wire to the fuel pump.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by r0mey
This is a pretty ballsy title for something that isnt complete yet dont you think?
Not everyone has your discount ability.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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and his heads/cams cost well over half the entire allotted amount of money you have for your build.



Originally Posted by jtgli
Well Cass was able to achieve 648whp I belive that was the # on Dave DD with the stock rails and single pump with meth. I think that the added pump will allow me greater head room in my power goals.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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and his heads/cams cost well over half the entire allotted amount of money you have for your build.
Yea I know and again Im not using heads or cams.....that was just an answer to thomm asking if anyone came close to 700 before with the oem rails.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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You can get their on stock heads/cams obviously (me and need4boost have done it).

Stock rails I have no clue on though. I'd be a little concerned there, no clue what they'll flow. Most people upgrade to external rails pretty early on so no real data.


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Yea I know and again Im not using heads or cams.....that was just an answer to thomm asking if anyone came close to 700 before with the oem rails.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
I'm very close to you, I think I have about 14K on my built motor.
I have almost 40k on my build..
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay'Z
I have almost 40k on my build..


Good luck OP..I'm still trying to wear my stock block out...
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by thom000001
You can get their on stock heads/cams obviously (me and need4boost have done it).

Stock rails I have no clue on though. I'd be a little concerned there, no clue what they'll flow. Most people upgrade to external rails pretty early on so no real data.


Tom

You used much larger turbos.....the 20Gs with stock breathing will be a challenge to extract 700whp.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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I was stating that working under the assumption that the turbos will flow (whichever are used). Mine aren't big at all, they will just flow a lot.

Tom

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You used much larger turbos.....the 20Gs with stock breathing will be a challenge to extract 700whp.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by thom000001
I was stating that working under the assumption that the turbos will flow (whichever are used). Mine aren't big at all, they will just flow a lot.

Tom
Ok let me rephrase that, better flowing turbos and tubular manifolds.
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Interesting.
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