lol I retract my statement in the sense it did achieve what it was designed too, I jus really wanted to use that line.
I LIKE my PL kit for now... when I shoot for big numbers though I think an upgrade will be necessary. if u can pm me info on upgrades id appreciate it.

 

i have no favorite shop....i have never even seen this kit in person.as far as whatever you and rude have going on just leave me out of it.if you notice i was critical of both of you going back and forth.it does the op no good and both need to reel it in.

you might also notice that i brought up the issue of deceptive marketing but the op seems to be past whatever misunderstanding him and his shop might of had.(personally i believe his inexperience led him to think advertised #s are a bolt on affair.)

i even mentioned that i would not have advertised this kit with those #'s.so your assumption about what side of the fence i'm on is distorted.just because i'm friends with rude does not mean that i must agree with him every time he posts.your assumtion that this is my "typically offensive posture" is correct.....just because it's focused towards you at this moment in time does not mean i'm defending pl.

i suggest you review my posts in this thread and please point out where i defended this kit ability to make 650 without radical steps or "hugged" in any way.please copy and paste any posts you feel fit the bill.(please use the whole post so readers will have context)


btwy: if info is presented that they cheated or where deceptive in any way you just stand back and watch me set it on kill!until then my position stay the same.

 

he has no clue what he's talking about and you + him?you sir are exposed for the follower that you are.

 

and you too.....show me when i hugged this shop in this thread or any other thread......ever

 

James wanted to surpass or make 500rwhp DD on our dyno. His car was dynoed before hand on our dyno and was looking for the difference in change instead of a total number. The difference in change that he was looking for would be right at 500rwhp DD compared to his previous numbers before he build the motor.

We never inflate our numbers to Dynojet because honestly we don't care. If we wanted to make 1300-1400rwhp we would have taken the drag car to a dynojet and done so, but of course our last numbers were 10xx at low boost. We care about drivability and the difference on the numbers from before and after we do any tuning, building, etc, on a customer's car. Again, the 500rwhp DD number that James was hoping for is a number that he expected with the before and after changes when the G35 arrived to us.

 

i thought you where better than this,we have disagreed in the past but i though you had the ablility to be objective

 

Objective as judged by you? LOL. At least you are always polite - I'll give you that.

Granted the title probably should be changed since 500 whp was obtained on what is considered an industry standard measure.

The rest of this drama is for what? If the OP is frustrated with where he's ended up, then you can try to help him (you have with your recommendations) or ignore it. Simple as that. Don't agree with a post - same applies.

... and by the way, while you may not have a favorite shop, you are perhaps quoted more by Jorge and Eric, than any other individuals on this board, with their posts always in support of yours. I guess that must be kind of flattering if nothing else. RudgeG_v2.0, IIQuickSilverII, SlideFox, 1ZweetZ, yourself, Intense - all post in a pack... What's up with that? But no favorite shop. Ok, if you say so. And only these guys know your secret identity as some expert in the industry that doesn't want his identity revealed onto the Internet. You're like Racer X - man of mystery.

 

i don't understand why you throw up +3000's when you take my point the next sentence as if it's a counter to my post.......but they say the same dam thing with subtle twist?

i'm critical of the drama (which i was not a part of) and you +3000 but are critical of the drama?

 

added for your edit:i like everyone you just named,not because we shop together but because i respect their thoughts and no-nonsense attitude.if that groups us together than that's alright.as far as the rest of your edit.....why do you have to go there?

 

^^

raj...do you want me to name "your pack" then seriously...its amazing how you paint yourself as "better" and you just get cred for signing the choir tune or friendships with mods but have also dont the exact same in past threads... again..you are just more stubble in how you attack when you want to. rude is more direct and says it as he sees it to your face.
its funny how you wrote it as if all you tried to do here was help... you were part of the strawman argument to use semantics to paint some big conspiracy or deception.....i only read your opinion...
exactly!... i mean for much much opinion and critique you have had on this board, you dont just go assuming things lightly here....i know you would not sell yourself just to defend a kit if you feel that any of the number is made up (650whp, 700whp, 906whp, 1050whp). i have no clue who you actually are other than common sense agreements we have had on the forums. Let raj talk out of his *** now......nice job catching his "ninja" edit

 

You are closely associated with RudeG, perhaps more of his doing than yours, so don't take it personally as the post referenced both of you. The fact is that he instigated much of the drama out of thin air. Let's not do the same thing here - ok?

Now onto something more substantial, what do you think of the 145 deg AIT published by Intense? If that is measured post compressor, that seems very low and would indicate that turbo is still very much in its efficiency range. If it was measured after the IC, then we really have no idea what that means since it depends on whether the IC was heat soaked... correct?

 

I have on several occasions called the number listed on the Powerlab Website but get no answer. You could pm me at this forum but you have not. I would change the title of the thread but I don't know how to. LOL If I knew how to change the title, It would read:

"Don't buy a powerlab gt35r kit if you want to make a conservative power level that Intense claim it would make, through private conversation with me while ******* the competition who's products can achieve these goals to convict me to buy their product". After spending several thousand dollars on a built motor and support mods, you will be greatly disappointed in your results and the customer support."

How is that for the new title. lol

 

i was paying attention to that,one reading on one motor under one set of conditions can and should not be taken as the standard.too many variables to alter the iat (alot of them having nothing to do with the turbo..s7's?)the spread is big and concerns me,personally i was waiting for the "rag in the pipe" moment but it seems it doesn't exist.

racer-x

 

quoted for Epic new title

 

dude, just give up. you're not getting anywhere. This is the performance auto industry. Nothing i set in stone. You can't expect every car on the market to perform exactly the same. So many variables. If you didn't realize that at first you know it now. Basically, if you want 500 hp then you shoudl have base dynoed on the dyno you wanted that number on then calculated what amount you needed to get it. From there choose the kit that will give that much increase in power verses a final number.

Also, you should always build for about 50hp more than you are wanting to hit to account for any limiting factors that could come up. Life is a ***** and nothing works perfectly.

 

No offense, but when someone told me they were going for 400whp on a DD with a Turbonetics kit I laughed.

And I mean.... I have no reason to affiliate myself with either shop. Hell, if anything Injected lent me a ratchet and socket at ZDayZ

 

I don't even live in the states and my car has never been in any vendor shop!!

so how I'm a follower?

And I know ttg35fort was confused between the true Garrett GT37 and the modified 37R turbo by Full Race that PL uses in there kit.

 

+10

 

because you +1000 a quote from tt35fort that was one of the most off base post's in this thread.......only two reasons you would do that and to be honest i gave you the credit of typing the nicer one.

EDIT: sorry +10000 (use commas next time)

 

Dude.. you wanted a 500whp on a pump gas and
you achieved that (you achieved the same number that PL advertise which is 500whp DJ ) . So, what are you crying about??