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02-01-2013, 11:24 AM
#361
definitely need to update some pics, been busy with appointments trying to get my permanent profile for my messed up knees. anyway sent the turbo out for 1.32 AR exhuast housing and 66mm exhuast wheel however in transit this happened.
not sure if it happened while shipping(amazing if it did it was wrapped tightly in bubble wrap with foam on the top and bottom then the box was put in a second box with more bubble wrap) or at precision. they had already finished the work when it was noticed so neither did they. great customer service though because they replaced it for free, they dint have any e covers though so i went with the sp cover, supposedly it should give me about 4 or 5% more power at max boost(32 psi when clutch is broken in if the turbo supports it)
massive 1.32 divided hot side, its so big i actually had to loosen the bolts, mount the turbo to clock it, then take it back down to tighten the bolts.
can see the standard bp kit will fit the sp cover but requires a little finagling i can move the pipe around to get about a inch of spacer between them
finally i ditched my direct port meth kit(which is still for sale btw) and went with a modified rev up intake to try and right shift power, this pic isnt final i blended the epoxy after this before mounting.
overall just from driving around it seems i have right shifted the power about 500 rpms or so without cams but ill need to put it on the dyno to verify first. breaking in the clutch so im just running the wastegate pressure of 15 psi atm.
not sure if it happened while shipping(amazing if it did it was wrapped tightly in bubble wrap with foam on the top and bottom then the box was put in a second box with more bubble wrap) or at precision. they had already finished the work when it was noticed so neither did they. great customer service though because they replaced it for free, they dint have any e covers though so i went with the sp cover, supposedly it should give me about 4 or 5% more power at max boost(32 psi when clutch is broken in if the turbo supports it)
massive 1.32 divided hot side, its so big i actually had to loosen the bolts, mount the turbo to clock it, then take it back down to tighten the bolts.
can see the standard bp kit will fit the sp cover but requires a little finagling i can move the pipe around to get about a inch of spacer between them
finally i ditched my direct port meth kit(which is still for sale btw) and went with a modified rev up intake to try and right shift power, this pic isnt final i blended the epoxy after this before mounting.
overall just from driving around it seems i have right shifted the power about 500 rpms or so without cams but ill need to put it on the dyno to verify first. breaking in the clutch so im just running the wastegate pressure of 15 psi atm.
02-01-2013, 01:30 PM
#363
yah lol they where alot thicker then i thought pretty rediculous like a inch thick. i wish i had a mill so i could have been able to get them perfect length and volume vs each other but no funds for a mill big enough lol nor anywhere to put it. just drawing on my knowledge of long runners smaller plenum= torque and short runner's big plenum = hp.
runners only are about 3.5-4 inchs on the large radius side outside of the lower intake so was able to cut them roughly in half and a good 9-12 inchs less then the kinetix i was running. ive essentially increased the plenum volume as well, and the pillars that come down from the upper plenum that the bolts go though i cut off as well and plugged. no pics of the inside though but both mods combined should have given me a decent amount of extra plenum volume, close if not as much as a plenum spacer. not sure if it will see the same benefit as raising the roof of the plenum though i should have can it through open foam but was lazy and more concerned with rightshifting the power band for traction then making optimum power
runners only are about 3.5-4 inchs on the large radius side outside of the lower intake so was able to cut them roughly in half and a good 9-12 inchs less then the kinetix i was running. ive essentially increased the plenum volume as well, and the pillars that come down from the upper plenum that the bolts go though i cut off as well and plugged. no pics of the inside though but both mods combined should have given me a decent amount of extra plenum volume, close if not as much as a plenum spacer. not sure if it will see the same benefit as raising the roof of the plenum though i should have can it through open foam but was lazy and more concerned with rightshifting the power band for traction then making optimum power
02-01-2013, 02:05 PM
#364
yah lol they where alot thicker then i thought pretty rediculous like a inch thick. i wish i had a mill so i could have been able to get them perfect length and volume vs each other but no funds for a mill big enough lol nor anywhere to put it. just drawing on my knowledge of long runners smaller plenum= torque and short runner's big plenum = hp.
runners only are about 3.5-4 inchs on the large radius side outside of the lower intake so was able to cut them roughly in half and a good 9-12 inchs less then the kinetix i was running. ive essentially increased the plenum volume as well, and the pillars that come down from the upper plenum that the bolts go though i cut off as well and plugged. no pics of the inside though but both mods combined should have given me a decent amount of extra plenum volume, close if not as much as a plenum spacer. not sure if it will see the same benefit as raising the roof of the plenum though i should have can it through open foam but was lazy and more concerned with rightshifting the power band for traction then making optimum power
runners only are about 3.5-4 inchs on the large radius side outside of the lower intake so was able to cut them roughly in half and a good 9-12 inchs less then the kinetix i was running. ive essentially increased the plenum volume as well, and the pillars that come down from the upper plenum that the bolts go though i cut off as well and plugged. no pics of the inside though but both mods combined should have given me a decent amount of extra plenum volume, close if not as much as a plenum spacer. not sure if it will see the same benefit as raising the roof of the plenum though i should have can it through open foam but was lazy and more concerned with rightshifting the power band for traction then making optimum power
If it works well for you, I'm sure I'll probably do it down the road. This with my 1/2" spacer, long tubes and 272's would probably flow up top like a champ.
02-01-2013, 06:32 PM
#365
That is a large turbine...but you could have done the same things with a much smaller T3 
. The SP compressor cover does fit without issues..just have to cut the first pipe by about one inch, and that is no big deal.
The intake pipe is a bit more complex (although still simple), and I use a 4"x3.5" 90deg silicone reducer coupler on those for the big builds. You can also use a 4"x3.0" 90 deg reducer as well if the intake piping is 3"
. The SP compressor cover does fit without issues..just have to cut the first pipe by about one inch, and that is no big deal. The intake pipe is a bit more complex (although still simple), and I use a 4"x3.5" 90deg silicone reducer coupler on those for the big builds. You can also use a 4"x3.0" 90 deg reducer as well if the intake piping is 3"
Last edited by Boosted Performance; 02-01-2013 at 06:33 PM.
02-01-2013, 10:22 PM
#367
yah it wasnt anything major currently i have a 3.0x4.0 90 degree coupler because i dint realise the pipe was 3.5 so i cut it. although i have the proper 90 coming in.
i havnt had to cut anything just required a little bit of wiggling lol, hopefully by the end of the month i will be able to dyno it just waiting to break in the clutch. i was heavily considering a qsv but that would require me to do cams too for traction or drag radials either 275/50/17 or 325/45/17 not sure which. might need it anyway at the power im expecting
i havnt had to cut anything just required a little bit of wiggling lol, hopefully by the end of the month i will be able to dyno it just waiting to break in the clutch. i was heavily considering a qsv but that would require me to do cams too for traction or drag radials either 275/50/17 or 325/45/17 not sure which. might need it anyway at the power im expecting
02-02-2013, 06:15 AM
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305/40 drag radials don't hold very well with my 650hp. 2nd gear is useless and 3rd spins like crazy even after the tires are warmed. On a prepped track I'm sure they will be ok but the street is slippery.
I have some 16" bias ply drag tires that hook well. Gotta get that fatty sidewall!
I have some 16" bias ply drag tires that hook well. Gotta get that fatty sidewall!
02-02-2013, 10:21 AM
#370
clutch is a custom 6 puck southbend assures me will break the trans before it slips and i currently have 305/35/18 toyo r888's and they decent minus first for the most part 325/45/17s are prob gona be the way to go that will give me an extra 2.5 inchs of sidewall plus the extra width
02-02-2013, 12:10 PM
#373
I think you will find boost by rpm too slow to be helpful for traction control. Ignition retard based on wheel slip is the way to go, along with a reasonable wheel speed by boost map.
That plenum mod has been tried before by Jeremy (from AAM, then Performance Factory) and as I recall it did make top end power but killed power everywhere else. Might be fine with a big turbo though and help traction to boot. I think I have a spare rev up - pm me if you want it to play with, for shipping cost.
That plenum mod has been tried before by Jeremy (from AAM, then Performance Factory) and as I recall it did make top end power but killed power everywhere else. Might be fine with a big turbo though and help traction to boot.
I think I have a spare rev up - pm me if you want it to play with, for shipping cost.
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02-02-2013, 12:19 PM
#374
yah if i have to ill go that way but im trying to avoid it since i am trying to eliminate the factory can system, the new ipdm i got is failing too(well it was used) which means either going with aem infinity or pro efi i think should be able to do it if i remember the software correctly.
ill be playing around a little and since konrad has the qsv for sale for cheap i might see what combo works best.............. i have a feeling at the end im going to end up with cams, qsv, big *** drag radials, and a very upset wife =P
ignition based traction control would likely eliminate what wheel spin i do have but ill have to see whats still in the market place when taxs come in.
dint realize someone had already tried it sounds like its going to give me exactly what im looking for though cant wait to get it on the dyno
ill be playing around a little and since konrad has the qsv for sale for cheap i might see what combo works best.............. i have a feeling at the end im going to end up with cams, qsv, big *** drag radials, and a very upset wife =P
ignition based traction control would likely eliminate what wheel spin i do have but ill have to see whats still in the market place when taxs come in.
dint realize someone had already tried it sounds like its going to give me exactly what im looking for though cant wait to get it on the dyno
Last edited by jerryd87; 02-02-2013 at 12:21 PM.
02-02-2013, 02:03 PM
#375
yah if i have to ill go that way but im trying to avoid it since i am trying to eliminate the factory can system, the new ipdm i got is failing too(well it was used) which means either going with aem infinity or pro efi i think should be able to do it if i remember the software correctly.
ill be playing around a little and since konrad has the qsv for sale for cheap i might see what combo works best.............. i have a feeling at the end im going to end up with cams, qsv, big *** drag radials, and a very upset wife =P
ignition based traction control would likely eliminate what wheel spin i do have but ill have to see whats still in the market place when taxs come in.
dint realize someone had already tried it sounds like its going to give me exactly what im looking for though cant wait to get it on the dyno
ill be playing around a little and since konrad has the qsv for sale for cheap i might see what combo works best.............. i have a feeling at the end im going to end up with cams, qsv, big *** drag radials, and a very upset wife =P
ignition based traction control would likely eliminate what wheel spin i do have but ill have to see whats still in the market place when taxs come in.
dint realize someone had already tried it sounds like its going to give me exactly what im looking for though cant wait to get it on the dyno
Oh and jerry dont you have haltech? The haltech can use the factory abs sensors to determine wheelslip (speed differences between the front and rear wheels). That being said didn't you remove the factory abs??
02-02-2013, 03:02 PM
#376
i havnt removed it yet but it will be gone soon i just need to finish the new cluster first and abs, all the stock guage stuff and the stock ecu will be removed.
i do have the haltech but since it reads wheel slip over the can system i would have to wire in the speed sensors into a ecu like pro efi or aem infinity although the infinity is kinda hard to get ahold of at the moment and there was a pro efi 128 in the marketplace...............
i do have the haltech but since it reads wheel slip over the can system i would have to wire in the speed sensors into a ecu like pro efi or aem infinity although the infinity is kinda hard to get ahold of at the moment and there was a pro efi 128 in the marketplace...............
02-02-2013, 05:38 PM
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I set mine up for boost by speed and used ignition retard for wheel slip.
Works ok but the downfall if I wanted only 500hp in the midrange then I would just tune for that. I tuned for 650 because I want 650.....therefore I want to do whatever to get 650 to the ground and not retard timing to take my 650 down to 550.
Works ok but the downfall if I wanted only 500hp in the midrange then I would just tune for that. I tuned for 650 because I want 650.....therefore I want to do whatever to get 650 to the ground and not retard timing to take my 650 down to 550.
02-03-2013, 12:59 PM
#378
the VQ firmware for the proefi also reads over the CAN. So it wont work either.
i havnt removed it yet but it will be gone soon i just need to finish the new cluster first and abs, all the stock guage stuff and the stock ecu will be removed.
i do have the haltech but since it reads wheel slip over the can system i would have to wire in the speed sensors into a ecu like pro efi or aem infinity although the infinity is kinda hard to get ahold of at the moment and there was a pro efi 128 in the marketplace...............
i do have the haltech but since it reads wheel slip over the can system i would have to wire in the speed sensors into a ecu like pro efi or aem infinity although the infinity is kinda hard to get ahold of at the moment and there was a pro efi 128 in the marketplace...............
02-03-2013, 01:40 PM
#379
hmmmm no way to use a universal firmware and adjust signals in the software to work?
if thats the case my only option for traction control would be racelogic or the aem infinity for traction control. the infinity is kinda hard to get atm though. jeeze my wifes gona kill me >.< i needa buy her something to appease her
if thats the case my only option for traction control would be racelogic or the aem infinity for traction control. the infinity is kinda hard to get atm though. jeeze my wifes gona kill me >.< i needa buy her something to appease her
Last edited by jerryd87; 02-03-2013 at 01:42 PM.
02-03-2013, 02:35 PM
#380
hmmmm no way to use a universal firmware and adjust signals in the software to work?
if thats the case my only option for traction control would be racelogic or the aem infinity for traction control. the infinity is kinda hard to get atm though. jeeze my wifes gona kill me >.< i needa buy her something to appease her
if thats the case my only option for traction control would be racelogic or the aem infinity for traction control. the infinity is kinda hard to get atm though. jeeze my wifes gona kill me >.< i needa buy her something to appease her