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Old 02-02-2015, 02:19 PM
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Im going to talk with the shop who is boring my motor andask them to assemble the bottom end. The more I read the more realize I dont have the tools to build it myself and I sure as hell dont have the money to do it wrong.

Thanks for every ones imput, I should be ordering all my parts in a few days.
Old 02-02-2015, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OldManZ350
I will be 61 years old in march. When I was a kid growing up in the late 50's and 60's and early 70's I helped or should I say watched my Dad build Hi performance street/strip motors starting at the age of about 5 years old.

Back in the day plastigauge was a very common practice. Mainly because it was inexpensive. Of corse we had a good local machine shop and always got a spec sheet. My Dad always used Plastigauge to verify bearing clearances.

These motors were run hard and for many miles, and lots of time at the strip and playing on the street. Out of 6-8 motors built that I can remember, they all ran very well and never had any issues. My Brother in his 1960 Ford Falcon with a 289ci would Trophy nearly every weekend for the Class C/Modified Production. It was always towed from the finish line back to the Pits. At age 13, my Brother would let me be the tow car driver. I should note that my Trophing Brother was only 16 years, and with my Dad's help he would beat out all the pro cars and drivers for his class......

All that said, Today I would never build a HiPo Motor without the Proper Tools and Measure everything.

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There's a pretty big difference between checking/verifying clearances from a shop with plastigauge and setting your clearances only using plastigauge. Just like there's a difference between having someone watch over you and diy popping your build cherry on your own. Especially when you're going from really quite tight oem specs to basically a mild race clearance and torque spec. I'd say those oldschool v8's ran plenty happy fairly loose, and I can bank they had much wider and beefier bearings :P

But yeah, OP you can do it, but at least make sure you have the correct tools... And do a lot of research. Do you know how to measure bolt stretch? Do you have access to a verified and accurate torque wrench? Do you have a known good Micrometer?
Those are some of the basics... It's not that hard to do, but it's very easy to do something incorrectly and think you've done it right. I'd really recommend finding someone who knows their ish, who's built an engine before at least there to walk you through it. And good tools. And research. There are tons of hot-rod articles on how to do stuff.
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I dont have any specialty tools im going to be buying a torque wrench or using the on from my hooby shop on base. I have people around me that have built motors but not nissan motors. I would think if you can build a 600hp honda civic then he can help me build my motor.

I dont know how to measure bolt stretch.
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Well just orderd my rebuild kit, Pathfinder cooling mod, and a new oil pump. Let the fun begin...I HOPE
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Originally Posted by Conway_160
Well just orderd my rebuild kit, Pathfinder cooling mod, and a new oil pump. Let the fun begin...I HOPE
I guess my post didn't go through yesterday, but you should be fine if someone who knows what they're doing can help you. The Honda guy might not inherently know the tolerances off hand (like what the valve lash range is supposed to be). But definitely get a good micrometer and learn how to use it. Don't rely on plasti-gauge for your bearings. Look around on how to check stretch, plenty of info out there. That will be much better than trusting the wrench on your short block.
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Also, I'd source a service manual for your car. There most likely is a guide that will walk you through. It's a good idea to read through it a few times before you start. Good luck and post pics of your engine parts when they come in.
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I have the FSM, I have read it a few times so i have a very good idea of exactly what to do. As soon as I get my parts ill post up the pictures.
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Originally Posted by Conway_160
I have the FSM, I have read it a few times so i have a very good idea of exactly what to do. As soon as I get my parts ill post up the pictures.
Just don't do all your work in rushed double all nighters... Otherwise you'll be calling Dynosty panicking over nothing at 5am.
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Lol no ill be taking my time, not because I want to but I limited to when I can work on the car.
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Well every thing but Bearings should be here next week.
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Originally Posted by Resmarted

Just don't do all your work in rushed double all nighters...
This is good advice, when I built my turbo bike I was so pumped to get it finished I pulled a lot of all nighters to get it done. No mistakes were made but I put myself under a lot of stress to get it finished. Looking back I wished I took my time and enjoyed it more. 5 years later my motor is still going strong.
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Originally Posted by Danoman32
This is good advice, when I built my turbo bike I was so pumped to get it finished I pulled a lot of all nighters to get it done. No mistakes were made but I put myself under a lot of stress to get it finished. Looking back I wished I took my time and enjoyed it more. 5 years later my motor is still going strong.
Lol I did almost all of work on my car in big 2 day chunks. I had plenty and plenty of expensive derps along the way. Usually I'd be doing all nighters. Just how things panned out really.
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Im hoping to pull the old motor this weekend. I'm going to go nice and slow and read the fsm section at least twice before I do anything so this dont turn in to a horror story.

Thanks for the imput guys ill try not to dissapoint.
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Originally Posted by Conway_160
Im hoping to pull the old motor this weekend. I'm going to go nice and slow and read the fsm section at least twice before I do anything so this dont turn in to a horror story.

Thanks for the imput guys ill try not to dissapoint.
You got it man! Pulling the stupid hunk of money pit out is the easy and cheap part
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Ok so I'm prepping the motor to pull it out this weekend.
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I pull the upper plenum so I can remove the wire harness and this is what I find

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Can't wait to tear this apart and see how f'ed it is internally.
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Motor is out...what I thought was going to be quick and easy lasted 6 hours. Had to take off my test pipes since they was hitting. I would say the worst part was taking the transmission fluid bath.
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Originally Posted by Conway_160
Motor is out...what I thought was going to be quick and easy lasted 6 hours. Had to take off my test pipes since they was hitting. I would say the worst part was taking the transmission fluid bath.
AH GAWD TRANSMISSION FLUID. I hope it wasn't ATF. ATF smells like butthole and ***** together. It's quite possibly the nastiest fluid I've ever smelled.
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Its what ever the 6mt comes with from the factory,
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