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Old May 3, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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oh thanks.. I've seen that one already.

looking forward to seeing the 350evo one, the wait is painful.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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430ztt- look at the title of the thread you're posting in, "FYI.....under development.....350EVO COMPLETE Intake manifold". Keep track of what you're talking about, please?
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Old May 4, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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hey landbarger....read the thread you are posting in....jack@$$....i was answering mojo powered's question....way to be an @$$ by the way.....and other people have talked about the Kinetix manifold in this thread as well, why don't you go try and start stuff with them too??? you are an idiot sir....go away...
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Old May 4, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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people people.. can't we all just get along.. come on now

back on topic.. any updates?
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Old May 4, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Everyone is just mad cause they want their damn 30rwhp already!! Just Messing :P In the meantime, I think I will save up for headers+install. Does this intake manifold setup come with a better throttle body or does it need to be purchased separately? If not, then thats another thing for me to go get.
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Old May 5, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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Alright, since it seems like it'll be a while before we get any updates...let me ask everyone this: *IF* they can manage to aim the IM out the front (TB in front going straight to intake), does anyone think it's be feasible to mount a STB between the two strut towers and the firewall?

What I understand is that the point of an STB is to give some support to two wobbly points in the car, thus you get more stiffness and better control. But how much can two wobbly points connected to each other do? Why not connect them both to something that's solid (the firewall) and triangulate the ST(&FW)B so that the whole thing gets stiffened up?

I've taken a look with this in mind and I don't see how you'd be able to get anything behind that pigtail at the top of the stock upper plenum. And on the right of the bay you've also got the TB and intake tube in the way. But if you get all that business poked out the front then you've got some room to play with and could mount a bracket to the firewall, and then put supports (which I guess would have to be firmly attached to each other so as not to let the triangle lose shape) from that plate to the strut tower brace points. What do you all think of this? I'm no engineer but it seems like this (which is used by some auto-x/grassroots guys) makes sense, and would definitely look awesome in our engine bays.

Any thoughts? (and my apologies for highjacking, but I figure we'll get a new thread when the thing's done anyway)
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Old May 5, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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A few members have removed their front strut bar and driven with it off and put it back on and didn't notice a bit of difference.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Any other comments on my crackpot suggestion? any other crackpot suggestions? updates?
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Old May 7, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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Nothing really exciting to tell....this whole project is going to take awhile.
Its not being done overnight.
Engine is on the dyno with the REV up manifold as of last week along with our new headers. Basically seeing what differences the new Nissan manifold alone does to our engine for the race car.
Right now the race engine program has take priority over our manifold...but at the same time using what information they learn ....towards the new IM project.
Cant wait to get back in the Z once again.
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Old May 7, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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you going to be driving this year at watkins bj?...i'll be there for the weekend, but from the looks of the team website it doesn't look like you're driving this year

see you at the glen...will the new manifold be on the car for the race?
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Old May 7, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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A front exit would be a real pain in the **** for people who have already purchased aftermarket intakes. I think a regular placement would be best as it keeps the market for the new IM more broad.

350EVO: What new headers are you using? Are they shortys or do they eliminate the cat?
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Old May 9, 2005 | 04:52 AM
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Yes we will be at Watkins Glenn with our #35 350Z.
Possibly even with an all new look!

Cant wait.
The headers are ours that we have had on the table for a while now.
They are a long tube design.
The other headers that we have been running work very nicely ....but they do allow for more heat to be retained under the hood. Our headers for production (once we get there).....are scheduled to end where the OEM cats end.They will be sold with either just a test pipe section or you will be able to order them with the high flow cats....they will be interchangeable and still end where the OEM cats end now.
But thats another story.
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Old May 9, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dwnshift
Yes we will be at Watkins Glenn with our #35 350Z.
Possibly even with an all new look!

Cant wait.
The headers are ours that we have had on the table for a while now.
They are a long tube design.
The other headers that we have been running work very nicely ....but they do allow for more heat to be retained under the hood. Our headers for production (once we get there).....are scheduled to end where the OEM cats end.They will be sold with either just a test pipe section or you will be able to order them with the high flow cats....they will be interchangeable and still end where the OEM cats end now.
But thats another story.
Cheers
BJZ
Can we get a set of headers that allows us to use our own test pipes/high flow cats?
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Old May 10, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ReavTek
Can we get a set of headers that allows us to use our own test pipes/high flow cats?
From the discussions I had with BJ, this will not be an option with the 350EVO header design. Making an exceptional long tube design with a really nice collector takes more length than the stock length design. Crawford built a really nice set of headers that fits in the stock location, but if you want even better headers, you must deviate from the stock length. These 350EVO headers will simply be incredible, but like their other products, they will cost more than the normal market because of the overall build quality and function.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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Old May 10, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by zzzya
From the discussions I had with BJ, this will not be an option with the 350EVO header design. Making an exceptional long tube design with a really nice collector takes more length than the stock length design. Crawford built a really nice set of headers that fits in the stock location, but if you want even better headers, you must deviate from the stock length. These 350EVO headers will simply be incredible, but like their other products, they will cost more than the normal market because of the overall build quality and function.
The thing with long tubes is you can't compare them to the shortys. A long tube is the equivalent of having a set of headers and test pipes and so the gains can be significantly higher, how much of this is due to the test pipe and how much is due to superior header design is debatable.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ReavTek
The thing with long tubes is you can't compare them to the shortys. A long tube is the equivalent of having a set of headers and test pipes and so the gains can be significantly higher, how much of this is due to the test pipe and how much is due to superior header design is debatable.

That is a bunch of crap as the Crawford design is also a long tube design that fits in the stock position and still bolts up to the stock cats. Header design is so crucial for a NA setup. Test pipes vs HF cats will not yield much of a difference on a NA car, but good headers vs poor headers and we are talking one hell of a difference. The design that 350EVO is working on will still have a "test pipe" or "HF cat" they just will not be as long as the stock ones so that they bolt up to the stock y-pipe or aftermarket catback. This will be an incredible set of headers, period.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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Is the 20+ or 30 hp gain coming from the IM alone or in combination w/ these headers?
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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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Bump for pics/dyno/info
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Old May 17, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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Hey guys.....sorry for the delay.
We had a PCA race this past weekend up at Mid Ohio. Had the oppurtunity to wheel around a 750+HP 1999 993 TT GT2 EVO (ex FIA car).....Cannot stop griiing as it was an absolute Jam........hopped out of that car righ into a 2003 GT3RS and thought it was broken or the pitspeed limited was still on.....
Bad news to report.....
engine dyno went dwon and they are waiting on parts for it...as they told me...cant get the parts at autozone.
The waiting is the hardest part.
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