Tire FEATHERING: FYI
Originally posted by overZealous
So just how problematic are the RE040's? Here is a partial list of vehicles that I posted on another forum a while back that are, or were equipped with RE040's.
Acura NSX
Lexus IS300 Sports Cross
Lexus IS300
Toyota MR2 Spyder
Audi A8
Mazda RX-8
Audi A6 Biturbo
VW Passat
Nissan 350Z
BMW Z8
Lexus SC430
Mazda Protege
R34 Nissan Skyline GTR (I've read that the these tires were originally developed specifically for the Skyline)
Lotus Elise
Opel Echo Speedster
It would be interesting to find out which of these vehicles has had widespread tire problems, other than the rapid normal wear
that you would expect from a soft tire, and if a problem existed, was it corrected by simply switching to another tire.
So just how problematic are the RE040's? Here is a partial list of vehicles that I posted on another forum a while back that are, or were equipped with RE040's.
Acura NSX
Lexus IS300 Sports Cross
Lexus IS300
Toyota MR2 Spyder
Audi A8
Mazda RX-8
Audi A6 Biturbo
VW Passat
Nissan 350Z
BMW Z8
Lexus SC430
Mazda Protege
R34 Nissan Skyline GTR (I've read that the these tires were originally developed specifically for the Skyline)
Lotus Elise
Opel Echo Speedster
It would be interesting to find out which of these vehicles has had widespread tire problems, other than the rapid normal wear
that you would expect from a soft tire, and if a problem existed, was it corrected by simply switching to another tire.
Acura NSX - OEM RE040's starting with '02 models. Found no reports of abnormal wear. Many reports of wearing the inside edges out but with considerably higher mileage on them then the 350Z and they were simply worn out as opposed to irregularly cupped or feathered and many were running beaucoup negative camber. Also many owners seem to choose the same tire for replacment.
Lexus IS300 - Also OEM RE040's. No reports of abnormal wear; cupping, feathering, etc. Many reports of worn out inside edges but again at higher mileage (~14,000) and no feathering. IS also has more factory negative front camber (.7 as opposed to .58 for the Z). Did find out that there was, at one time, a recall on the RE040's for "bubbles" in the sidewalls. I think this may have also applied to the Acuras but it was before the Z's time and new and improved RE040's were used as replacements.
well.....Ive read lots of reports of tire feathering and uneven wear on audi, lexus and other cars........
LOTS OF THEM>>>>>>and check out overall satisfaction ratings.....very poor reviews.....
these OEM tires....are not very good.
LOTS OF THEM>>>>>>and check out overall satisfaction ratings.....very poor reviews.....
these OEM tires....are not very good.
Originally posted by overZealous
I've started to do a little research on this and here are couple of results. My research is based mostly on searching the forum archives for the repective vehicles.
Acura NSX - OEM RE040's starting with '02 models. Found no reports of abnormal wear. Many reports of wearing the inside edges out but with considerably higher mileage on them then the 350Z and they were simply worn out as opposed to irregularly cupped or feathered and many were running beaucoup negative camber. Also many owners seem to choose the same tire for replacment.
Lexus IS300 - Also OEM RE040's. No reports of abnormal wear; cupping, feathering, etc. Many reports of worn out inside edges but again at higher mileage (~14,000) and no feathering. IS also has more factory negative front camber (.7 as opposed to .58 for the Z). Did find out that there was, at one time, a recall on the RE040's for "bubbles" in the sidewalls. I think this may have also applied to the Acuras but it was before the Z's time and new and improved RE040's were used as replacements.
I've started to do a little research on this and here are couple of results. My research is based mostly on searching the forum archives for the repective vehicles.
Acura NSX - OEM RE040's starting with '02 models. Found no reports of abnormal wear. Many reports of wearing the inside edges out but with considerably higher mileage on them then the 350Z and they were simply worn out as opposed to irregularly cupped or feathered and many were running beaucoup negative camber. Also many owners seem to choose the same tire for replacment.
Lexus IS300 - Also OEM RE040's. No reports of abnormal wear; cupping, feathering, etc. Many reports of worn out inside edges but again at higher mileage (~14,000) and no feathering. IS also has more factory negative front camber (.7 as opposed to .58 for the Z). Did find out that there was, at one time, a recall on the RE040's for "bubbles" in the sidewalls. I think this may have also applied to the Acuras but it was before the Z's time and new and improved RE040's were used as replacements.
Originally posted by Wotnot
well.....Ive read lots of reports of tire feathering and uneven wear on audi, lexus and other cars........
LOTS OF THEM>>>>>>and check out overall satisfaction ratings.....very poor reviews.....
these OEM tires....are not very good.
well.....Ive read lots of reports of tire feathering and uneven wear on audi, lexus and other cars........
LOTS OF THEM>>>>>>and check out overall satisfaction ratings.....very poor reviews.....
these OEM tires....are not very good.
I feel this whole tire featuring issue will come to a head this summer when the 2004 euro-tuned suspension 350Z's have enough mileage to demonstrate signs of featuring or not. If they show no signs of featuring/cupping then Nissan will have a hard time explaining the suspension does cause the problem.
Last edited by JLC350ZX; Feb 22, 2004 at 09:25 AM.
I started a thread elsewhere to vent frustration...
My tires were perfect up to about 8500 miles. Then, they started to get growly and loud. Began to see the feathering. Went to the dealer, who said that the fix is to swap sides... They checked the alignment, and said it was perfect (I had it checked elsewhere before going to the dealer- the other shop said it was perfect also).
Well, I am an experimental kind of guy, so I said OK to the swap. Actually, it worked... at least for a while. The noise returned at about 9700 miles, and two days ago at about 10,150 miles, I saw that one of the tires is actually coming apart like an old superball. Big chunks are coming off the outer tread blocks, and cracks have formed like the rubber is trying to delaminate from the belts (like a truck tire on the highway). Called the dealer, and will take it in Monday AM very slowly.... Wish me luck.
My tires were perfect up to about 8500 miles. Then, they started to get growly and loud. Began to see the feathering. Went to the dealer, who said that the fix is to swap sides... They checked the alignment, and said it was perfect (I had it checked elsewhere before going to the dealer- the other shop said it was perfect also).
Well, I am an experimental kind of guy, so I said OK to the swap. Actually, it worked... at least for a while. The noise returned at about 9700 miles, and two days ago at about 10,150 miles, I saw that one of the tires is actually coming apart like an old superball. Big chunks are coming off the outer tread blocks, and cracks have formed like the rubber is trying to delaminate from the belts (like a truck tire on the highway). Called the dealer, and will take it in Monday AM very slowly.... Wish me luck.
Originally posted by JLC350ZX
I feel this whole tire featuring issue will come to a head this summer when the 2004 euro-tuned suspension 350Z's have enough mileage to demonstrate signs of featuring or not. If they show no signs of featuring/cupping then Nissan will have a hard time explaining the suspension does cause the problem.
I feel this whole tire featuring issue will come to a head this summer when the 2004 euro-tuned suspension 350Z's have enough mileage to demonstrate signs of featuring or not. If they show no signs of featuring/cupping then Nissan will have a hard time explaining the suspension does cause the problem.
Originally posted by Boomer
What date will we use for the 2004 euro-tuned suspended Zs? When the TSB NTB03-006b issued in December, 2003 called for all Zs made before May 23, 2003, stated dealers should change the toein to 0.04? Are all 04 350Zs made from that day the euro-tuned ones? I'm a little cloudy on that, could you clear it up for me?
What date will we use for the 2004 euro-tuned suspended Zs? When the TSB NTB03-006b issued in December, 2003 called for all Zs made before May 23, 2003, stated dealers should change the toein to 0.04? Are all 04 350Zs made from that day the euro-tuned ones? I'm a little cloudy on that, could you clear it up for me?
Last edited by JLC350ZX; Feb 22, 2004 at 05:17 PM.
Originally posted by johnsZ
I started a thread elsewhere to vent frustration...
My tires were perfect up to about 8500 miles. Then, they started to get growly and loud. Began to see the feathering. Went to the dealer, who said that the fix is to swap sides... They checked the alignment, and said it was perfect (I had it checked elsewhere before going to the dealer- the other shop said it was perfect also).
Well, I am an experimental kind of guy, so I said OK to the swap. Actually, it worked... at least for a while. The noise returned at about 9700 miles, and two days ago at about 10,150 miles, I saw that one of the tires is actually coming apart like an old superball. Big chunks are coming off the outer tread blocks, and cracks have formed like the rubber is trying to delaminate from the belts (like a truck tire on the highway). Called the dealer, and will take it in Monday AM very slowly.... Wish me luck.
I started a thread elsewhere to vent frustration...
My tires were perfect up to about 8500 miles. Then, they started to get growly and loud. Began to see the feathering. Went to the dealer, who said that the fix is to swap sides... They checked the alignment, and said it was perfect (I had it checked elsewhere before going to the dealer- the other shop said it was perfect also).
Well, I am an experimental kind of guy, so I said OK to the swap. Actually, it worked... at least for a while. The noise returned at about 9700 miles, and two days ago at about 10,150 miles, I saw that one of the tires is actually coming apart like an old superball. Big chunks are coming off the outer tread blocks, and cracks have formed like the rubber is trying to delaminate from the belts (like a truck tire on the highway). Called the dealer, and will take it in Monday AM very slowly.... Wish me luck.
I am not sure about the flexibility aspects of the image from OZ-Z.....
Regarding my note from the other night... "perfect" alignment to me is the mechanical stuff measured by the alignment systems, AND, the ability to track for a half mile or so without touching the wheel and without wandering out of a lane (on a decent piece of road, of course)
However, when I took the car to the dealer today, they took one look at the tires and said- we will replace the front tires (the back ones are still near-perfect...). So, at least this is one positive vote for the dealer, but I do not think it lets Bridgestone off the hook. Also got the front seat pin fixed- tended to pop out of the track locking mechanism.
Regarding my note from the other night... "perfect" alignment to me is the mechanical stuff measured by the alignment systems, AND, the ability to track for a half mile or so without touching the wheel and without wandering out of a lane (on a decent piece of road, of course)
However, when I took the car to the dealer today, they took one look at the tires and said- we will replace the front tires (the back ones are still near-perfect...). So, at least this is one positive vote for the dealer, but I do not think it lets Bridgestone off the hook. Also got the front seat pin fixed- tended to pop out of the track locking mechanism.
Originally posted by johnsZ
I am not sure about the flexibility aspects of the image from OZ-Z.....
Regarding my note from the other night... "perfect" alignment to me is the mechanical stuff measured by the alignment systems, AND, the ability to track for a half mile or so without touching the wheel and without wandering out of a lane (on a decent piece of road, of course)
However, when I took the car to the dealer today, they took one look at the tires and said- we will replace the front tires (the back ones are still near-perfect...). So, at least this is one positive vote for the dealer, but I do not think it lets Bridgestone off the hook. Also got the front seat pin fixed- tended to pop out of the track locking mechanism.
I am not sure about the flexibility aspects of the image from OZ-Z.....
Regarding my note from the other night... "perfect" alignment to me is the mechanical stuff measured by the alignment systems, AND, the ability to track for a half mile or so without touching the wheel and without wandering out of a lane (on a decent piece of road, of course)
However, when I took the car to the dealer today, they took one look at the tires and said- we will replace the front tires (the back ones are still near-perfect...). So, at least this is one positive vote for the dealer, but I do not think it lets Bridgestone off the hook. Also got the front seat pin fixed- tended to pop out of the track locking mechanism.
Originally posted by OZ-Z
please make sure you warm up before attemting..Warning do not do this at home!
please make sure you warm up before attemting..Warning do not do this at home!
Originally posted by Boomer
Do you think Nissan holds classes on this maneuver? It seems to be their favorite postion when dealing with the Z. That sounded harsh, didn't it? Maybe too harsh, do you think?
Do you think Nissan holds classes on this maneuver? It seems to be their favorite postion when dealing with the Z. That sounded harsh, didn't it? Maybe too harsh, do you think?
Remember you can get a lot more fly's with sugar, than vinegar.A wine gone Bad..
Ha !Cheers Amy
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Originally posted by AmyCroft
That is slightly abrasive, saying that Nissan has their head up thier *** Asterik's when it come to the "Tire Eating Monster" 350Z
Remember you can get a lot more fly's with sugar, than vinegar.
A wine gone Bad..
Ha !
Cheers Amy
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That is slightly abrasive, saying that Nissan has their head up thier *** Asterik's when it come to the "Tire Eating Monster" 350Z
Remember you can get a lot more fly's with sugar, than vinegar.A wine gone Bad..
Ha !Cheers Amy
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Keith/Boomer--waiting with bated breath for your answer.
Originally posted by Boomer
Do you think Nissan holds classes on this maneuver? It seems to be their favorite postion when dealing with the Z. That sounded harsh, didn't it? Maybe too harsh, do you think?
Do you think Nissan holds classes on this maneuver? It seems to be their favorite postion when dealing with the Z. That sounded harsh, didn't it? Maybe too harsh, do you think?
Add one more Z to the list. I brought my 03 Touring 6MT with 6900 into service for Tire Feathering (Built 04/03). Regal Nissan in Roswell GA has got of hold of it. We'll see how it goes... Wish me luck.
Justin
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