Wrong. The f*k'd up tread when severely worn messes with your braking and handling.

Just before mine we "swapped" I tried a quick stops and the ABS went nuts with the tires up front chattering under hard braking.

Not everyday you do panic stops, but when you do, it's usually for a damn good reason - avoiding injury to you, someone else,...my tires were just about as bad as the photo at the beginning of this entire thread and braking really suffered.

I originally went in to the dealer because I thought something was wrong with my brakes, or the ABS.

It was neither brakes or the ABS- TIRES. SUSPENSION. DESIGN. Take your pick.

 

Yes this is a real shame. My car has been to the dealer 6 times in the last month. I am basically trying to get it in there as often as possible to pursue the lemon law. I have had just about every possible thing go wrong on my car. As soon as a TSB is released I take it in like "remember when I told you this was an issue". I did a pre order on my car so it was one of the first Z'm made, but my combo of problems pretty much assures me that I did in fact get a lemon. It's too bad that Nissan's flagship car is having so many problems. In my case anyway.

 

Either way - the front tires would not have matched the rear in terms of 50 series vs. 45. That's what killed me. If they were to replace all 4 then it wouldn't be a problem. Now, since they screwed up - they offered to replace all 4 now. So atleast they added 2 more tires to the order for their F-up. Now, let's see what they send. It's been a week now and no word as of yet - mainly due to the RE04's being back ordered everywhere.....


Wonder why there is a run on the tires?!?!?!

Your 1st two guesses don't count.....

 

ok hows this , my dealer said i have toe in because im probably spinning the tires and racing my car im loosing faith

 

What if we ALL fax Nissan this Friday with the letter posted below. If it comes from different fax numbers from all over the country Nissan will have to take notice. And for that matter, let's fax this letter to ALL the numbers I have listed?

We can also alert the press to our organized effort for Nissan to address our issue.

I believe we can be heard if we organize our efforts! If your Name and VIN# is not on the letter already, just add it to the list before you fax it over to Nissan.

I will start faxing on Friday, 11/14/03 at 9am (Pacific Time)

Who is with me?

_________________

May 3, 2003

Nissan North America, Inc.
18501 South Figueroa St., Gardena, CA 90248, U.S.A.
Phone: 310-771-3111
Fax: 310-771-3343

Nissan Motor Co., Ltd.
6-17-1, Ginza, Chuo-ku
Tokyo 104-8023 Japan
Tel: 81-3-3543-5523

Nissan North America, Inc. (Manufacturing)
Nissan Drive, Smyrna, TN 37167, U.S.A.
Phone: 615-459-1400
Fax: 615-459-1554/1555

Nissan Design America Inc.
9800 Campus Point Drive, San Diego, CA 92121 U.S.A.
Phone: 619-457-4400
Fax: 619-450-3332

Nissan Technical Center North America, Inc. (Los Angeles Office)
18455 South Figueroa St. Carson, CA 90248-4504, U.S.A.
Phone: 310-771-3111
Fax: 310-771-5658

Nissan Technical Center North America, Inc. (Arizona Office)
7815 North White and Parker Road, Stanfield, AZ 85272, U.S.A.
Phone: 520-421-4100
Fax: 520-421-4298

Nissan Technical Center North America, Inc. (Cambridge Basic Research)
Four Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA 02142, U.S.A.
Phone: 617-374-9650
Fax: 617-374-9697

Nissan Technical Center North America, Inc. (Technical Center)
39001 Sunrise Drive Farmington Hills, MI 48331, U.S.A.
Phone: 248-488-4123
Fax: 248-488-3901

cc: Carlos Ghosn, President & CEO NML, Shiro Nakamura, Senior vice VP of Design NML,
Mamoru Aoki, Chief Product Designer NTC, Kazutoshi Mizuno, Chief Vehicle Engineer NDA,
Alfonso Albaisa, Associate Director of Design NDA, Jed Connelly, Senior Vice President NNA,
Bill Kirrane, VP & General Manager, NNA

Dear Nissan Motor Co.,

We implore the leaders of Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. to stand behind and deliver on Carlos Ghosn’s promise, "The New Z will deliver the performance and high design qualities of today's cutting-edge sports cars at a truly attainable price. Our goal is to build a memorable, no-compromise sports car..." by fixing the tire feathering/cupping issue on the 2003 350Z. (TSB Ref: NTB03006)

We demand that the Nissan Motor Co. make a commitment to quality and ensure the “Z” heritage not be diminished by allowing a sub-standard product to be on the market.

All of us have put our faith in the Nissan Brand by purchasing our 350Z sight-unseen. Many of us pre-ordered and put deposits down for our cars, 8 to 12 months, in advance because we believed in the words of Shiro Nakamura, Senior VP Design NML, “First, the design offers strong visual and driving appeal, but the Z can also be appreciated for the more practical side that comes with everyday ownership – durability, utility, comfort, reliability and low maintenance.”

We plead for a timely and thorough investigation of this issue. Please do NOT allow shame to be shed on
Kazutoshi Mizuno, 350Z Chief Vehicle Engineer, by turning a deaf ear on a serious problem with the 350Z.

We call for a complete and permanent solution and most of all, justice. Please do not let us down. We believe
as Carlos Ghosn does, "that the Z is the heart & soul of Nissan". We would hate to find out that the "350Z DNA" is made up of inferior genes.

In Solidarity,
The Undersigned

Ian - VIN #100157, Case Complaint #4082264
David - VIN #100594
Scott - VIN#100903 Case Complaint #4059755
Robert - VIN#1766
Jason - VIN#100725 Case Complaint #4049797
Vince - VIN#000877 Case Complaint #4075864
Cobey - VIN#101116
Rod - VIN#110836 Case Complaint #4084933
James - VIN#1324 Case Complaint #4079129
Chris - VIN #103197 Case Complaint #4063661
Jim - VIN#003283
Steve - VIN#004278
Cam - VIN#103689 Case Complaint #4006573
Steve S. - VIN#006118 Case Complaint #4083945
Tim - VIN#103395
James W. - VIN#101018 Case Complaint #4081081
Brad - VIN#000368 Case Complaint #4069344 (2nd)
Conal - VIN#000786 Case Complaint #4089440
Michael - VIN#010832 Case Complaint #4084381
Matt - VIN#002594 Case Complaint #4089713
Keith G. - VIN#000680 Case Complaint #4088854
Keith H - VIN#001434
Lee - VIN#100674 Case Complaint #4087221
Glen - VIN#013166
Rick - VIN# 002043
Jerry - VIN#006027
Mark - VIN#015615
JD - VIN#002533
Joy - VIN#100850
Ricky - VIN#00172
Steve Se. - VIN#005449 Case Complaint #4126032
Richard - VIN# Case Complaint#
Jim T. - VIN#007045 Case Complaint#4203517
Vic - VIN#007468 Case Complaint#
Todd - VIN#005309 Case Complaint#4248428
Ron - VIN#009176 Case Complaint#4240264
Chris 2 - VIN#007549 Case Complaint#4097306
Thad - VIN # 114492 Case Complaint#598815
Mika - VIN #004318 Case Complaint#4254193
Robert - VIN#003612 Case Complaint#
Jacques - VIN#109759 Case Complaint#4309843 NHTSA DOI number is 10043366
Ramon - VIN#002338 Case Complaint#
Josh - VIN#112964
Milt - VIN#002370 Case Complaint#4322037

 

Are ppl gonna fax this out?

 

I can fax out - could you make it a PDF so it doesn't look so "cut and paste"????

 

I'm taking my car in Thursday to have them look at my tires, by the way they sounded they didn't believe that this is an issue

 

you can add me to the list

Artur S. - VIN # 009051
BBB case number - NIS0358506

 

is it true that once you go through the AUTOLINE program and a decision is made that you cannot go out on your own and hire an attorney.

 

I have made a pdf file of the letter. If you would like a copy please email me at mindfullivin@yahoo.com

I will send it to you.

Thanks


Ian

 

Got my new tires, they ruined my rims, new ones on the way.

 

I took dated pictures of my wheels today. I am having the tires replaced on Thursday. I am sooo nervous that they are going to scratch my wheels.

 

yes

 

I'll send mine out early evening on Thursday. I'll be on a plane Friday. Are we sending to random locations or has someone picked out a specific location?

 

WOW! If I would have known that I would get such a great effort on everyone part to do the faxing I would have started this a long time ago.

Thank you to all that have written me with your support. I appreciate all the encouragement!

Please only fax each number once. I would like to have as many different people as possible get this letter into Nissan. The more people that fax this letter in, the more creditablility our efforts will have.

Ian

Here are the numbers that everyone is going to fax to:

Nissan North America, Inc.
18501 South Figueroa St., Gardena, CA 90248, U.S.A.
Phone: 310-771-3111
Fax: 310-771-3343

Nissan North America, Inc. (Manufacturing)
Nissan Drive, Smyrna, TN 37167, U.S.A.
Phone: 615-459-1400
Fax: 615-459-1554/1555

Nissan Design America Inc.
9800 Campus Point Drive, San Diego, CA 92121 U.S.A.
Phone: 619-457-4400
Fax: 619-450-3332

Nissan Technical Center North America, Inc. (Los Angeles Office)
18455 South Figueroa St. Carson, CA 90248-4504, U.S.A.
Phone: 310-771-3111
Fax: 310-771-5658

Nissan Technical Center North America, Inc. (Arizona Office)
7815 North White and Parker Road, Stanfield, AZ 85272, U.S.A.
Phone: 520-421-4100
Fax: 520-421-4298

Nissan Technical Center North America, Inc. (Cambridge Basic Research)
Four Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA 02142, U.S.A.
Phone: 617-374-9650
Fax: 617-374-9697

Nissan Technical Center North America, Inc. (Technical Center)
39001 Sunrise Drive Farmington Hills, MI 48331, U.S.A.
Phone: 248-488-4123
Fax: 248-488-3901

 

Kawataworks, I'll be sure to fax them as well.

I hope this works, if not next stop should be J.D. Powers and an all out protest infront of NNA's headquarters.

 

Looks like when ever I have any tire work done on my car I will have the service writer note on the work order that the wheels came in perfect and then I will have to check them when they are done. Thanks for the heads up.

 

i took my car in to get the TSB done on the feathering issue, and this is what i got from my service dealer:

(i dropped my car off at 9:30AM, and this conversation happened over the phone at 3PM)

him: "let's wait till next time you come in to get this fixed"
me: "why"
him: "this is a one-time fix, and nissan is working on a permanent fix right now, so let's wait till then"
me: "i'd like to get it fixed right away"
him: "but like i said, this is a one-time repair"
me: "we'll fix it now, and we'll fix it again later"
him: "...ok but the tire shop won't be able to do it today. you'll have to leave the car here overnight."
me: "i'll come in again tomorrow morning"

the retard...he should've called me earlier today telling me that he wanted to get it fixed later.

what kind of ******** is "one-time" repair? it's a warranty service, so they fix it now, they fix it later, then they fix it again and again until they fix it right. then if they can't fix it, nissan buys it back.

and nissan is working on a permanent fix? somehow i don't believe his words...

 

I got off the phone with the kind folks at Nissan just a few minutes ago...

I called them yesterday about the feathering issue and what nissan is doing to fix the problem as well as finding out for sure if the 04 has the new 'euro' suspension.

Ok, ALL 2004 Z's have this new suspension. All of them. There are NO 04's that were made without it.

As for the feathering issue.... here's what they said:

"Sir, the 04 Z has a new suspension which corrects the feathering issue. As far as we are concerned we have done all that was required to prevent this issue from occuring."

To which I asked, "If that were true, why are there 04 owners who had their tires swapped by the dealer because of feathering?"

to which they replied, <pause> "It depends on how the driver drives the car. If you drive it very hard, the tires will wear out quicker."

Well, duh! Of course it's going to wear out quicker but it sure as hell shouldn't feather!

They said that there was only a few people, out of the vast amount of Z owners, who called to complain about the feathering, thus, the problem isn't as big as I am making it out to be. WTF?!??!

So I asked if we are basically on our own about this issue and they said, not for the first 12,000 miles because of the warranty. So folks, after that 12,000 miles, you are all S.O.L.!

I also asked if they knew what the cause of the problem was that they could 'correct' them in the 04 model, why don't they apply that fix to the 03? They said, well... we will cover them for the 12,000 miles and the various TSB's will resolve their issue for them.

I guess I'm walking on my deposit. Screw nissan. I'm done.