Shabba2

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I love spaghetti, espcially my girlfriends Filipino spaghetti...where is Jeffie?


Tubbs, you made an excellent point when you said that not knowing something and admitting to it is a positive, not a negative. This is yet another point that aggravates me about religion. Every question is answered with "god" and is so ambiguous that it is impossible to penetrate the fog that surrounds the question.

"Why do people suffer, most especially children?"

"Well, god works in mysterious ways son..."

That isn't an answer, it's an avoidance technique. I would have more respect for more christians if they could simply say, like Biochem did, "I simply don't know.".

And Dutch, I'm with you bro. I went to church as a child and questioned enough that I was thrown out of bible study one day for disruption. I remember asking, at age 11, "If god is perfect, then why is he jealous of other gods. Isn't envy a sin?". No answer was given to me that day...

tquill

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Just because it can't be explained, doesn't make it automatically wrong or that god doesn't exist. We can't explain a lot of things even though we see them happening every day.

You have a very good point. Greeks and others before them wanted an explanation of uknown things, such as lightning for example... Thus, Zeus and the other gods were created.

As for the god which most people believe in now, well he could have been "made up" the same way I suppose. But couldn't people have guessed it correctly? There is either a god, or there is not. There are no in betweens on this one. So even though, in many people's opinions, there is no evidence that proves his existence, there isn't any that disproves it either.

Christianity has only been around since Jesus's alleged existence (I say alleged because this is being debated as we speak). With that fact, it's obvious why the greek gods were around thousands of years before Christianity.

Why were the greek gods swept under the rug? Well many people obviously started to believe in something else. Jesus, or at the very least the notion of him existing, lead people to believe in Christianity and such. Many people feel he is the evidence of why Christianity is correct, and why everything else is wrong. Scientists change their opinions based on new evidence do they not? Whether the evidence is right or not is a different story I know, but it does explain why there are no more greek gods.

Tubbs

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Just like today, people follow the hottest trends. I think I'm going to worship Criss Angel, personally. He's the best. And performs miracles on a daily basis.

tquill

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I hate the "because God made it that way" answer also. I too, feel it's just a way to avoid a question.

As for why people and children suffer... Well some believe that God may take a laissez faire approach. The quick way to become dependent on someone is to have them take care of everything for you. Maybe God is smart enough to avoid that.

Biochem7

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When did I say that not knowing something is negative. There are a lot of things not known in this world, you choose to focus on the negative things, I choose to focus on the posititves.

Why am I in Science? As a kid I loved to take things apart, figure out how they work. Now, I enjoy breaking down things on the molecular and figuring out simple binding interactions make a cell function. Also, I want to make a significant contribution to science and mankind one day.

Tubbs

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What are you talking about? How am I focusing on anything negative?

pearlcoupeg35

I am a Christian. Have been my whole life and continue to get stronger and stronger as i grow older...however, i am not sure i see the purpose of the thread.

Some topics just dont belong on a car forum imho. Religion being #1 on that list.

Im not saying you cant be a Christian and be a member of an online forum (obviously not) but what will this thread amount too? Its almot over before it even starts becasue like ANY thread on a forum, the sole purporse is to gather DIFFERENT opinions on a topic into one area. In this case, different opinions will lead to chatter - arguing - misunderstandings - etc.

While i admire your efforts by starting this thread and putting you and your faith out there, i kinda feel like its not the right place.

Regardless of what i think, do your thing man and keep on keepin on

wild121

I'm anglican nice to see some christians out there.

Biochem7

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What are you talking about, when did I say not knowing something is negative?

wild121

I dont think he wanted to gather opinions on Chritianity. It seems to me if he made this thread that he is pretty much a christian and wanted to see if their were any other christians on the forum.

Mazinger Z

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I'm sure "4-Shizzil G-Spot" does... do you even know what that means? Or did you pick it out of an episode of Making the Band on MTV?

Tubbs

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"Not at all, You were just focusing on all the negative things in life. I was just pointing out some positives about how miraculous we are.

Why aren't we perfect? I don't know."

So, how again was I focusing on all the negative things in life?

Tubbs

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Ya, because 80 percent of the population isn't enough.

Biochem7

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Here you go:

wild121

Hey Tubbs,

whats going on, just kinda wanted to get in on this conversation of ideas without arguing.

wild121

I don't think 80% of the population is christian.....Maybe 80% of the people consider themselves Christian but that is in the US and if you truly look at that population and who practices that religion I highly doubt that 80% of people go to church or practice christianity. I would bet that practicing christians are in the minority.

I1DER

He never stated that. It's all conjecture. There are 11 pages of posts all about religion in a regional forum not set up for this purpose. This should be in a sub-regional forum no more than a discussion of FI in the religious forums.

Sorry, this seems to be a moderator failure. They may have their religious reasons for letting it happen and even banning people to prove their point. I'm stymied.

I'd like to hear some logical answer so we can guess what the rules are in the future. Seems like a reasonable request for a reasonable moderator. It would be the Christian thing to do.

wild121

All I can say if Jesus doesn't exist and there is no God it would make for a pretty sad world and thats a world I don't want to live in. Thats why I have faith.

Tubbs

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Again... unless you think there's a designer, those aren't negatives. Everything is more positive once you take out the whole "perfect designer" theory.

Tubbs

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Not at all. And that's real life. Sorry.