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Old 09-22-2009, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by thekinn
Wow.. Well, I'd like to take back the nice things I said about EBC Yellow brake pads. They DID perform very well for 1 track day at Waterford. They ARE now almost GONE. I've got about 1/8 inch left. Glad I checked before tracking with them at Grattan! Emailed Oakos this evening - calling them in the morning. Hopefully they got some good race pads in stock for my crusty non-brembo brakes.
Actually I do remember reading something like that about EBC's before I bought the Carbotechs. Do you have any specific brand in mind or are you just gonna grab whatever is available?
Old 09-23-2009, 05:37 AM
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Hopefully Oakos has some Carbotech XP8's in stock.. If not - I'll be FedExing 'something'.
Old 09-23-2009, 06:52 AM
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Steve too bad our brakes are different cuz I have a full set of carbotech pads sitting in my room right now (XP10's / XP8's). Are the rears the same?
Old 09-23-2009, 07:26 AM
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Oakos has some XP8's in stock -waiting on a quote for pick-up. I'm going to swing by there today and get them. Thanks though!
Old 09-23-2009, 07:56 AM
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WOW
ONE track event man that sucks
I hope they didn't set you back too much man

Steve, for how much you track that thing you might want to look into getting an oil cooler man...
Old 09-23-2009, 10:07 AM
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Oil Cooler is the next thing I plan on doing to my car. Probably before the start of next season.
Old 09-23-2009, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Datona Jess
WOW
ONE track event man that sucks
I hope they didn't set you back too much man

Steve, for how much you track that thing you might want to look into getting an oil cooler man...
Yup. Lots of talk about that around here. Sounds like a good idea to me. It is the first thing on my list now. If not the end of this season - it will be on at the start of next season.

Until then.. I'm changing my oil before each track session. I rarely get 1000 miles on an oil change. I have also been getting my oil analyzed so I know that the oil is getting sheered down to almost a 20W... but no abnormal engine wear.

I'll give these Carbotech's a run.. They should work well if all the hype is accurate. Props to Oakos for getting me a good price for pick-up! Thanks Bart. Cool to have a local place to get performance parts SAME DAY.
Old 09-23-2009, 11:13 AM
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Steve Whats the grade of the oil that you put in your car? I did 5W-30 Mobile One the last time
Old 09-23-2009, 11:14 AM
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we should all do an oil cooler group buy!

And steve hope you like the carbotech's. I haven't installed mine yet but I plan on it probably next year when I get new rotors.
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Actually I never got to post my experience with Carbotechs. ...

They brake sharper than the stock brake pads but they are fading/going soft after a few laps in the session. If they are going softer, I drive about half a lap easy and they are back again. I never had this problem with the stock pads. I am running Super ATE Brake fluid. So, I am not sure what's the problem.
Old 09-23-2009, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mekatoka
Actually I never got to post my experience with Carbotechs. ...

They brake sharper than the stock brake pads but they are fading/going soft after a few laps in the session. If they are going softer, I drive about half a lap easy and they are back again.
Well.. that sucks. lol. No biggie.. I've delt with fade with my Project Mu B-force pads. I will still hope for the best - I'll be using xp-8's front and rear.
Old 09-23-2009, 12:55 PM
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Deepu,
Man I thought the Nismo came with oil and dif cooler factory.
Or is that just the new one, I would look into that man before you go spend the money and its already there. I know the 370 needs them thats for sure
Old 09-24-2009, 09:15 AM
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I have a set of Hawk DTC-60s that I am going to try at the next track event. I have been eating track pads...I will let you know how the DTC-60s fare.
Old 09-24-2009, 09:31 AM
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Thanks, please do. When I switch to my Brembo calipers I'll be running the DTC-70 pads in front and pfc-something in the rear. I'm just getting my money's worth out of my current calipers/rotors before I switch... I've had almost no rotor wear so far (Powerslot cryo treated).
Old 09-24-2009, 06:54 PM
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Hey guys! Spotted a dark silver 350z with Borla exhaust the other day getting off at 8mile and Haggerty. I don't know if you guys know that person or not. I can't remember the license plate or any other details.

Also, nodded to a black 370z with a couple inside at the same 8 mile and haggerty exit off of i275.

Pretty generic I know, but maybe you guys might know.
Old 09-25-2009, 05:33 AM
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I've had nothing but issues with my Racing Brake BBK - the kit itself is fine, but it just seems to EAT pads on the track. I tried two different Racing Brake "track" compounds and both did not make it through an entire day. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the Hawk pads will fare better - if not, I am going to have to look into a different set up.
Old 09-25-2009, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by lbk16
I've had nothing but issues with my Racing Brake BBK - the kit itself is fine, but it just seems to EAT pads on the track. I tried two different Racing Brake "track" compounds and both did not make it through an entire day. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the Hawk pads will fare better - if not, I am going to have to look into a different set up.
Weren't you trying to convince the manufacturer that its their fault and return it?
Old 09-26-2009, 06:40 AM
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Yes - I think it is a bad design. The pads are too small. I have to try some race pads before I give up completely. They won't take the calipers back unless I can prove that they are too puny for the Z.
Old 09-26-2009, 07:32 AM
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Not trying to be rude, but I thought that when you showed them to us at my place.

You should buy the new 370Z brakes, they are amazing!!!
Or buy a set of used Brembo's they will probably be cheaper then you think. THAT is aproven design thats for sure.
Old 09-27-2009, 04:51 AM
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Thumbs down CarboTech XP-8's Fade

Well, the CarboTech XP-8's have awesome initial bite and performance ON THE STREET. After one hot lap, they fade just as bad as Project-Mu B-Force. But they do last.. I have plenty of pad left after 2 wet and 3 dry sessions at Grattan.

Once I got accustomed to the fade, I knew what to expect from the XP-8's and they worked Ok for me. I wish I could get the performance of the EBC Yellows with the life of the XP-8's or Project Mu's...

I would recommend the XP-8's for Auto-X. I think they would still have that killer bite for a 40second run through the cones. After I installed them and went for a test drive my first thought was JonnyBoy's stock Brembo setup with that strong initial bite of the brakes. Impressive.

They also squeak - even with shims installed. I only noticed this while going very slow pulling into my garage.


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