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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Updating for reference for people looking at aftermarket clutches: I went with a Clutchmasters Stage 3 Kevlar clutch for my Nismo. I was open to trying alternatives to OE and I found a great deal from a forum member on the Clutchmaster clutch and flywheel (new, in box).

The inital impression is awesome. IMO it is what the OE clutch should have been like: slightly stiffer pedal feel, better gripping power. Once I get the clutch broken in, I will (hopefully) be able to let everybody know how the Clutchmasters clutch works on the track.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ColoradoClark
Updating for reference for people looking at aftermarket clutches: I went with a Clutchmasters Stage 3 Kevlar clutch for my Nismo. I was open to trying alternatives to OE and I found a great deal from a forum member on the Clutchmaster clutch and flywheel (new, in box).

The inital impression is awesome. IMO it is what the OE clutch should have been like: slightly stiffer pedal feel, better gripping power. Once I get the clutch broken in, I will (hopefully) be able to let everybody know how the Clutchmasters clutch works on the track.
Hate to say it, but you are going to more than likely run into some hydraulic issues using a pressure plate that stiff on an HR. I hope you don't, but the consensus of others using heavier pressure plates is FAIL.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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I understand that there is a risk, but to date nobody has proven (at least from what I've seen) that there is a clutch solution out there that works, OE or aftermarket. ATS may have a solution, but I am not willing to spend $2500 on an ATS clutch to see if it works.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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I understand that there is a risk, but to date nobody has proven (at least from what I've seen) that there is a clutch solution out there that works, OE or aftermarket. ATS may have a solution, but I am not willing to spend $2500 on an ATS clutch to see if it works.
What mods do you have? Stock works.............kinda.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ColoradoClark
Updating for reference for people looking at aftermarket clutches: I went with a Clutchmasters Stage 3 Kevlar clutch for my Nismo. I was open to trying alternatives to OE and I found a great deal from a forum member on the Clutchmaster clutch and flywheel (new, in box).

The inital impression is awesome. IMO it is what the OE clutch should have been like: slightly stiffer pedal feel, better gripping power. Once I get the clutch broken in, I will (hopefully) be able to let everybody know how the Clutchmasters clutch works on the track.
Well, keep us posted every few thousand miles or so. wish you luck on that clutch.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
What mods do you have? Stock works.............kinda.
Mine didn't: it lasted less than 24K miles.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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Mine didn't: it lasted less than 24K miles.
hence the kinda......what mods on the car?
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 05:39 AM
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Zero power or drivetrain mods. Zip. Nada. None. Well I guess now I have an aftermarket clutch.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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well... the "problem" is that with how much a full katech upgrade will cost on a '06 Z06 you'll buy an '09 and still keep some change...

BUT. the katech system is race proven and you have to upgrade to coilovers doing that for clearance... so you'll end up with a better car.

I don't have the extra 20/25 grand right now
they make something to upgrade the stock dry sump system also (at least they did), not just a full new system. iirc, the upgrade was something like 1-1.5k...

but then again, i think all new vette's also use a CSC and not a conventional slave setup
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ColoradoClark
Zero power or drivetrain mods. Zip. Nada. None. Well I guess now I have an aftermarket clutch.
Clutch as your first mod?
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by [MD]3FiFtY
Clutch as your first mod?
I have to agree.....with no performance mods I would have gone with stock.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
I have to agree.....with no performance mods I would have gone with stock.
IMO, for the HR, there's really no reason to go with an aftermarket clutch if you don't have any other mods. He may have just voided some sort of warranty. If the stock one went to chit, then Nissan would have replaced it at no charge.

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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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LOL, thanks for the that amazing helpful sage advice, guys. It is good to see that the people on these forums can still talk out of their **** without bothering to read the thread that they are responding to.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ColoradoClark
LOL, thanks for the that amazing helpful sage advice, guys. It is good to see that the people on these forums can still talk out of their **** without bothering to read the thread that they are responding to.
We were responding to your posts dipsh!t.

Someone already said it once, "Hate to say it, but you are going to more than likely run into some hydraulic issues using a pressure plate that stiff on an HR. I hope you don't, but the consensus of others using heavier pressure plates is FAIL."

So you're trying to resolve one issue by potentially creating another?? or am I talking out of my ****?

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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ColoradoClark
LOL, thanks for the that amazing helpful sage advice, guys. It is good to see that the people on these forums can still talk out of their **** without bothering to read the thread that they are responding to.
Simmer down bro, you are the one that ignored the advice and consensus of all the members on here and decided to post. We were simply being insightful to the masses of potential problems related to aftermarket clutches that use heavier pressure plates (I.E. your set-up) that problems are VERY common. If you don't want the answer don't post the question .
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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idk, stock clutch going out at 24k sounds like a reasonable reason to upgrade... but i would have gone with a twin clutch so that i don't get any problems...
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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Sorry for the hot response -- work has me more than a little on edge today. Come to think of it, work's been like that for the last few months, which kinda sucks. Anyway, my bad.

I didn't choose to make my first performance mod a new clutch: the OE clutch wore out prematurely, forcing me to install a new clutch. Spending large amounts of cash on a second OE clutch didn't seem like a very smart option. I've read every post that I could find on these forums about aftermarket alternatives and haven’t seen any consensus on a clutch that works well -- especially for people who run occasional track events. There seem to be some indications (but no real consensus) that clutches with heavier pressure plates may cause hydraulic problems. I would say there isn't enough data at this point to be conclusive.

I didn't post a question about my new clutch -- I posted information about the clutch that I installed and said I would update everybody on how things progress with the new clutch.

Hopefully my new Clutchmasters clutch holds up better than the OE clutch did. Whether it does or doesn't, I will at least be able to provide another data point for discussion of aftermarket clutches -- and hopefully lead the next person towards a more educated decision if they wind up in the same situation that I did.
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Old Jul 24, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Well the first few miles on the clutch finally! It is a bit sticky, better than the stock clutch which only had 18500 miles on it.Only took 200 m. to toast it after installing the tt kit. the engagement is very quick, little drive ability right now. It may get a little smoother with some miles, pedal feel is about twice as stiff as the stock one. I would like to know some one else that has a aftermarket clutch to compare in person to see how they compare. And thanks Adam, the clutch alignment tool from other nissans did work.
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Old Jul 24, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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I am surprised it is so stiff.....my single is lighter than my factory pedal. The pressure plate is only 1000kg, right? My engagement has softened noticeably since the install. Initially it would shutter if you left a light below 2k, but now it doesn't really do it (600 miles or so in).
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 06:07 AM
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I have no specs on the clutch, the manuals that came with the clutch do not even have the HR listed in them. the clutch is 215 mm dia. w/ alum. cover. Adam @ Z1 would probably know the specs.
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