My piece would have to be "what are the parents thinking?" Personally, I have worked for all of my cars. I pay car payments, insurance, gas, etc. (any do so for everything) because my parents cannot afford to help me. I am 22 by the way. Now, looking to the future... If I have a well paying job then I would not mind getting my kids a car... a car like... a Civic, or an Accord, or a Corolla (as long as certain conditions apply, such as good grades, staying out of trouble, etc.) ... not a high power rear wheel machine! Any parent that buys their child a near 300 horse power 3 seater sports car does not give a crap about their child! And the fact that a child has the car "handed" to them also makes the less much less valuable to them. It will be wrecked within a year! Guaranteed!

 

I'll hold you to that.

 

JCA.... Have fun with your car, but if you are a competitive person, ask your parents to sign you up for a driving school, like skip barber, where they can teach you about driving beyond the limits of a car. In some cities there are driving courses that have a skid car where they teach you how to recover from a skid. There is a lot learn about driving a performance car. I am still learning.

Have a long and fun filled life.

 

... as a first car at 16, guaranteed wrecked within a year. 18 years old... may have enough experience if you're responsible and respect it's power and don't abuse it. Good luck.

 

I'm 18, so I hope I'm responsible enough.

 

ok man.. im 19 now and i got my Z when i was 18.. i have good grades.. i wasnt in trouble.. that much.. my parents let me drive their toyota from 16 - 18.. and decided to get me a nice car as graduation gift.. i got the Z.. they paid half and im paying the other 15k + insurance with my job.. so does they paying half makes me appreciate HALF of MY Z??? that i would get in an acciden in maybe 1.5 years?? i know im not the most responsible person out there.. but just because something was handed down doesnt mean you dont appreciate it.. iv seen my parents work hard to support me and my sister. she works so hard and i appreciate everything that she ever bought me.. you just cant say stuff like that and direct it to everyone. if i have a high pay job, yes ill buy them a camry or something first.. and if they are responsible enough, maybe a nice sport car.. and if you cant tell if your child is responsible enough or not.. then something is wrong in the parenting there..

and what the crap is "Everyone parent who buys their child a 300 horsepower 3 seater sport car doesnt give a crap about their child" WHAT KIND OF CRAP COMMENT IS THIS! comments like these makes us younger drivers look unamature and iresponsible.. you are 22 and your not even that much of an adult yet.. you have no right judging other people's parents like that

 

#1 you cant stop the parents from buying those cars
#2 you cant stop the dealers from helping the parents get it for there kids.

haha it's all talk and no action for all you haters LOL cause there aint a damn thing you can do about it except for whine like babies.

wanna binkie

 

I don't hate teenage Z drivers/owners. However, I see the 18 year olds driving their POS Tercels, Neons etc in the neighborhood without regard to anyone else. I can't imagine some of them driving something like a Z (not that it is an exotic, but it's above average performance wise).

I personally don't care how most people drive, but when they are endangering others, then that's just plain wrong. I see it every day in my neighborhood, and it mainly teenage males. Not all teenagers are bad drivers, but there are enough of bad teenager drivers out there that there should be concern. Then couple that with lack of experience. Part of the reason why the state of VA is thinking of banning cell phone use while driving spefically for teens is because of their overall terrible track record. Why do you think they pay more than double/triple/quadruple for insurance?

Honestly I'd love to give my son a Z, and I can afford to, but there's no way I could trust him with it. I couldn't sleep on the fact that he may not come home one night because I gave him something he couldn't responsibly handle.

JCA must be very responsible, because if he weren't I don't think his parents would give him a Z.

 

seriously.. does it matter if you give him a civic or a Z??? both are capable enough to drive 70-80mph with no problem.. and thats more than enough to get killed in any type of accident.. at least the Z is a little safer than a civic.. if the kid is not responsible.. any car can get them hurt.

 

I didn't anything about 19 year olds. I was speaking of 16, as a first car. I've just heard of way to many incidents of parents buying their kid a BMW of some sort (or Lexus, Mercedes, etc.) as soon as they get their license, they wreck it, and then their parents buy them a brand new, even nicer car.

These kids wreck their car because they do not understand the joy of getting their own job, saving their money, making sacrifices, and earning it with their own sweat.

It's also about parents teaching their children responsibility, and class. If a child is forced to work for their money and save it to invest it into something they REALLY WANT (like young men want sports cars) it will be something to stick with them for life. It will also teach them so much about financial responsibility, which is something people need to succeed in life.

As for class, see SmokyTyrz's post. Noone like's a punk. Values, manners, etc. etc.

Again, I wish you the best of luck and hope you respect the great gift you have been given. Don't abuse it.

 

Very true. At least with a Civic they are much less likely to try to "show off" for people and such... ya know?

 

they will show it off with high spoiler and unpainted kits and weird rims... just not that many will be impressed

o and i will definately abuse this beautiful present.. on the track

 

i guess i'd have to take sides with the kids as well as the hating adults. simply because as a parent you're kids dont NEED a 350z. And as a 19 year old who drives an 06, I must say that i dont need one either but i wanted one. And to add to that, mommy and daddy havent spent a dime on any of my cars. My first car was an 88 bronco II. you gotta start somewhere and work up right?

 

Yes seriously it does matter statistically and that is why insurance for a teenager is higher on average for a sports car than on say a four cylinder mid sized four door sedan. No need for logic or explanation. It just is more dangerous on average.

Yes any car can get you hurt and often it is not your fault. So mid sized sedans with 5 star front and side crash ratings and low roll over figures are safer on average than small cars or tall SUVs.

If I was 18 I would want a Z, but I buy my kids Accords and Passats when they finish their first year of college. When they graduate and get a job they can buy whatever car they want!

 

yes its pretty much given that a sport car is more dangerous on average.. but i was comparing driving a sport car vs 4 door in the hands of a reckless kid (who some of the older folks consider all of us younger drivers to be). if they are reckless.. they are going to be hurt no matter which car they get. in that case, it doesnt matter if its a Z or a Accord.. and lots of people want to see the kid earn their own money and buy their own car.. would you seriously think many 16 year olds sophmore/jr in high school can earn enough to buy a nice accord or passat?? if they do.. it'll probably be a older model.. which may not be as safe as parents buying them a newer car.

 

Hi M0nkie.... I can say from experience that in high school I was more dangerous with more horespower per pound of machinery, be it a 390 V8 muscle car or 750 Honda motorbike. There simply is a learning curve with performance vehicles. I am also guessing that you are probably a lot safe driver/rider than I was. But heh, I was also driving a diesel truck with a split shifter.

If a kid is working hard at school and their parents can afford to buy them a reasonable car, more power to both of them. But I do not consider for example say a new BMW a reasonable car for high school. I can easily buy all my kids BMWs, but they are not going to get one from me.

 

i used to walk 10 miles to school everyday, in the snow, uphill both ways.

toys were metal when i was a kid.

we had an after-school program, it was called korea.

hehe. But seriously, why do I have to hear everyone's music at stoplights, I get mad and it makes me feel old.

 

Well here's the answer to the title "Is there a General Hate towards Teenagers who own Zs?" Well, teenagers who own fast cars are usually irresponsible, immature, and cause accidents/deaths more often than their more mature, responsible counterparts. So the young people on this forum shouldn't be upset when they get some of the answers they do...maybe next time when you're out being stupid you can stop and think "maybe I should be responsible for once," and try to break the stereotype that most teenagers have earned us. I knew an 18 year old girl that got a Z three months ago, she "was" responsible, and mature...but her 18 year old-ness got her all excited and racing on the freeway and caused her to rear-end a semi and cause a six-car pile up.

 

iono if i was that safe in high school i was lucky because our family had a 97 toyota avalon.. not the fastest.. but did carry some horse.. and safe too. my first speeding ticket scared the crap out of me.. made me pretty safe from then.. I agree with the dangerous driving during the first 2-3 years.. people often THINK they are good drivers not knowing they cant handle the car during an emergency.. but i bet those BMW owners' parents have another thing to consider than the price.. ie. social class and maybe some show off.. those parents are prob freaky rich.. and consider bmw and benz a nice car that is fair in price and makes their kid look good.. if im rich, i sure wont want my kid to drive in a beater while other rich parents kids drive bmws and make fun of mine... im chinese.. and my parents, along with MANY.. simply believes the tradition of " I WANT THE BEST FOR MY KIDS"

 

How about being 19 and just paying for your own Z??? What the h^ll is wrong with that? If I worked hard for my money just as everyone on this forum has, then I can buy whatever the h^ll that I want