Now that the V6 Mustang spanks the Z...
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apparently you don't understand basic economics. If Nissan could sell 100,000 nismos at its exorbitant markup then it would make 100,000 of them. Its a business they are there to make money. The reason for the limited numbers is b/c they are smart enough to know that a very small percentage of the population is going to spend the extra money for a body kit.
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H*ll even the 370Z Nismo with its intake/exhaust/suspension puts up the same figures as a base model. But whoooo you have a NISMO with a plaque. Sh*ts real cute. You say there are faster cars that you would not own, citing the Mustang's quality. If you bought new, you probably didn't pay too much less than a 335 which is faster, has more mod potential and a far better interior/all around vehicle than a Nismo.
I may be ignorant when it comes to the Nismo Zs, but they are not noteworthy, so why pay attention?
Enjoy your Nismo, and proudly display the number on your plaque in your signature. On this site it may mean something, however little, but outside of this site, it is a Nissan with a factory body kit, that performs the same as a regular Z, which is why it is not worthy of being a collector's car or any significant attention.
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apparently you don't understand basic economics. If Nissan could sell 100,000 nismos at its exorbitant markup then it would make 100,000 of them. Its a business they are there to make money. The reason for the limited numbers is b/c they are smart enough to know that a very small percentage of the population is going to spend the extra money for a body kit.
And they now make this while Nissan makes this. GTFO with all of that. I own a Cobra and a Z, so I really have no preference either way, but I've always felt the Nismo Z was a dumb car and only an exploitation of those who like the Z car. Nissan should have rewarded it's Z fans with a Nismo model worthy of the name and all the little plaques/numbers.
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apparently you don't understand basic economics. If Nissan could sell 100,000 nismos at its exorbitant markup then it would make 100,000 of them. Its a business they are there to make money. The reason for the limited numbers is b/c they are smart enough to know that a very small percentage of the population is going to spend the extra money for a body kit.
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Such ignorance lol. I asked for the total numbers considering that after going through a few google results all I could find was 10% of the Z sales and came up with 3000 some odd produced in Japan and America. Japan didn't get numbered plaques, only America b/c they knew some gullable Americans would believe that the car was more valuable if it had a plaque. You mock another member for saying that a Nismo is nothing more than a body kit, but you get some seats too I guess. I find it hard to see the Nismo Z as much more than that when it puts up the same figures as a track model.
H*ll even the 370Z Nismo with its intake/exhaust/suspension puts up the same figures as a base model. But whoooo you have a NISMO with a plaque. Sh*ts real cute. You say there are faster cars that you would not own, citing the Mustang's quality. If you bought new, you probably didn't pay too much less than a 335 which is faster, has more mod potential and a far better interior/all around vehicle than a Nismo.
I may be ignorant when it comes to the Nismo Zs, but they are not noteworthy, so why pay attention?
Enjoy your Nismo, and proudly display the number on your plaque in your signature. On this site it may mean something, however little, but outside of this site, it is a Nissan with a factory body kit, that performs the same as a regular Z, which is why it is not worthy of being a collector's car or any significant attention.
H*ll even the 370Z Nismo with its intake/exhaust/suspension puts up the same figures as a base model. But whoooo you have a NISMO with a plaque. Sh*ts real cute. You say there are faster cars that you would not own, citing the Mustang's quality. If you bought new, you probably didn't pay too much less than a 335 which is faster, has more mod potential and a far better interior/all around vehicle than a Nismo.
I may be ignorant when it comes to the Nismo Zs, but they are not noteworthy, so why pay attention?
Enjoy your Nismo, and proudly display the number on your plaque in your signature. On this site it may mean something, however little, but outside of this site, it is a Nissan with a factory body kit, that performs the same as a regular Z, which is why it is not worthy of being a collector's car or any significant attention.
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not even going to read the thread because this is ****ing stupid. so what you're saying a car that is 8 years newer can beat an older car?
So from what youre saying, since the new mustang is 10K more than the used 350Z (and 13,000 for a used one is generous), you could easily spend the 10K difference and make the older Z outrun the mustang, while being able to out handle it with a suspension upgrade.
so whats your point.
So from what youre saying, since the new mustang is 10K more than the used 350Z (and 13,000 for a used one is generous), you could easily spend the 10K difference and make the older Z outrun the mustang, while being able to out handle it with a suspension upgrade.
so whats your point.
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Z's are rare? And maybe you can spot many mustang's, why don't you wave at them as they pass you by. Think about why there are so many of a car, because its a good deal. In 2011 you will be able to get a car over 400hp, with a nice interior, fairly light weight considering the engine size and back seat, a back seat, and vastly improved on track performance. Versus a car that has nice exterior styling, bland interior styling, underpowered, good in track performance, no back seat, average weight, and is slower then most of its competitors. You have fun with your z but remember to wave at me as I pass you by.
I've owned Z's since the 90's and also have driven/owned Mustangs. There is no comparison whatsoever. The technology of the Japanese carmakers owns all your base. Ford had no imagination. Nissan dared to be different. My 1990 300ZX with 222 hp STOCK could outhandle and outrace a stock 1993 LX 5.0 with more hp and torque. Why is that? I knew the driver because he was a good friend. He loved my Z.
And if you actually saw my location, you'd probably see why I made the statement about rare sightings of Z's compared to Mustangs. I organized a Z club, and we have an average of 20 Z33's show up for our Spring meets. I know there are more, but we don't see them like we see the Ford.
I will always enjoy my Z for a lot more reasons than you can imagine. I never get tired of driving my Z. I bought it for a reason. I could care less about back seats. I have a minivan for my family.
You keep thinking that you're better than me if it makes you feel better.
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what a dumb thread...let s compare old cars to new cars...doesnt matter what the damn car is at least compare the same years or compare a new z to it....thats just stupid..plus i guarantee a DE z would still be nose to nose with it..those times are garbage that the z is rated for..my 03 went 13.7 bone stock and there are many who have better times than that stock DE's...
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Then prove the moron wrong...
Your coveted POS Nismo nets you the same performance as a regular 350Z from 2007, so I'd to ask who the moron is now, but I will refrain. To me paying more for the same performance is pretty dumb. Sorry that pisses you off and you have to resort to calling me a moron. Personal attacks are signs of weak and/or failing arguments. They both go 0-60 in 5.1 and through the quarter at 13.7.
I know they were built by Autech where the frames were welded yaddy yah, they should have made it lighter with more hp, and maybe then it would have the performance necessary to command the high price and the limited production number. When Lambo or Ferrari produce a limited production car, it doesn't perform the same as their base model
Your coveted POS Nismo nets you the same performance as a regular 350Z from 2007, so I'd to ask who the moron is now, but I will refrain. To me paying more for the same performance is pretty dumb. Sorry that pisses you off and you have to resort to calling me a moron. Personal attacks are signs of weak and/or failing arguments. They both go 0-60 in 5.1 and through the quarter at 13.7.
I know they were built by Autech where the frames were welded yaddy yah, they should have made it lighter with more hp, and maybe then it would have the performance necessary to command the high price and the limited production number. When Lambo or Ferrari produce a limited production car, it doesn't perform the same as their base model
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Dude does have a point that the benefits of the Nismo is kinda weak for a limited edition model. I have always associated a limited edition to have a lot more power than its stock counterpart.
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It was a piece of ****,in the shop more than on the road.They have no resale value...and never will.The shelby is built a hell of alot better and will hold it's value.They aren't even in the same league....and if so many ppl, own mustangs that should tell you something.
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Lol, the internet is a small place. It was a joke like the twisted wedge heads. People get butt hurt over the internet. Not saying you did but come on some guy posts up he beat a 600 with a lightly modded ls come on that place is full of jokes.
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When I was browsing some different threads and google results looking for the production numbers, I saw a post that Nissan even made some of the Nismos in 08 because there was a demand which pissed off the author of the post, which shows that Nissan did indeed make them for per demand, yet only produced how many? 1600 Lol true showing of the demand for a Z with a body kit and the same performance stats.
And they now make this while Nissan makes this. GTFO with all of that. I own a Cobra and a Z, so I really have no preference either way, but I've always felt the Nismo Z was a dumb car and only an exploitation of those who like the Z car. Nissan should have rewarded it's Z fans with a Nismo model worthy of the name and all the little plaques/numbers.
And they now make this while Nissan makes this. GTFO with all of that. I own a Cobra and a Z, so I really have no preference either way, but I've always felt the Nismo Z was a dumb car and only an exploitation of those who like the Z car. Nissan should have rewarded it's Z fans with a Nismo model worthy of the name and all the little plaques/numbers.
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Then prove the moron wrong...
Your coveted POS Nismo nets you the same performance as a regular 350Z from 2007, so I'd to ask who the moron is now, but I will refrain. To me paying more for the same performance is pretty dumb. Sorry that pisses you off and you have to resort to calling me a moron. Personal attacks are signs of weak and/or failing arguments. They both go 0-60 in 5.1 and through the quarter at 13.7.
I know they were built by Autech where the frames were welded yaddy yah, they should have made it lighter with more hp, and maybe then it would have the performance necessary to command the high price and the limited production number. When Lambo or Ferrari produce a limited production car, it doesn't perform the same as their base model
Your coveted POS Nismo nets you the same performance as a regular 350Z from 2007, so I'd to ask who the moron is now, but I will refrain. To me paying more for the same performance is pretty dumb. Sorry that pisses you off and you have to resort to calling me a moron. Personal attacks are signs of weak and/or failing arguments. They both go 0-60 in 5.1 and through the quarter at 13.7.
I know they were built by Autech where the frames were welded yaddy yah, they should have made it lighter with more hp, and maybe then it would have the performance necessary to command the high price and the limited production number. When Lambo or Ferrari produce a limited production car, it doesn't perform the same as their base model
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Just another car some 350Z owners are afraid of. God forbid they run 12's with bolt ons. Some if not most Z owners need to tuck their ***** up and realise the Z is not going to be the fastest car in the world. Let the GTR handle it and if you can't afford it stop complaining about how slow it is compared to the new Mustang, Camaro, or whatever else comes next. Appreciate what you drive and don't take it for granted. We all could be driving 1990 Taurus' if we weren't so fortunate.