Nismo350z#0310

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A lot of contradictory in your statement.

I'd like to see ANY speed3 keep up with a 300whp Z. It would get walked like a dog. I've ran a mutual freind's Speed3 with my stock HR, and it wasn't even close.

bmyles

Was his stock as well? Otherwise, needed the driver mod. At one point in time, my MS3 had bolt-ons, tune, and meth. Completely destroyed an auto 6.0L GTO. We can go all day with anecdotal evidence of which car is "faster." Thing is, there are quite a few MS3s with bolt-ons, tune, and e85 who are staying bumper to bumper with 5.0s. Can an HR do that?

Nismo350z#0310

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I don't see why not? If a shop like Z1 is starting to pull 70-80whp out of bolt-ons and a tune, I've never heard of a Speed3 gaining those types of numbers. And seeing the HR is already faster stock for stock....

TuckerE36

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What does an Econobox MS3 get you? Massive amounts of wheel hop and torque steer...But hey, they do have a base price of $24k brand new! Haha

CWP_MS3

Lmao @ Joker... You're ridiculous dude. You gotta be the most misinformed person I know. And most definitely lol @ an A4 spanking an MS3. That's a better story than Cinderella.

Anyone with a stock HR in the Gaithersburg/Rockville/Frederick/Germantown Maryland area? You should be able to walk my mildly bolted and e85 tuned ms3 that doesn't run more than 21psi right?

BornSlippyZ

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Wanna run an FI Z hit up Alberto in MD as well.

Syner

IDK... I personally think Cinderella was a great story. It had a bit of everything: happiness, tragedy, revenge, forbidden love, and of course the happily-ever-after.

CWP_MS3

But I thought all it took was a stock HR to walk an MS3...? Now you need a highly modified one? Sounds like someone is having doubts.

BornSlippyZ

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Not having doubts but, I will say this. I used to drag race FWD Honda's back when they were the rage in the 90's. MS3 are fun but I would rather drive a 'slow' RWD car > 'fast' FWD. To me this is just a retread of old ideas, done that been there.

Nismo350z#0310

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Yeah it does, because I've done it myself. Are you calling me a liar?

Edit: I'll give details. My experience, he started about a car length ahead and when we let off I was about 2 car lengths ahead.

Syner

Didn't sound like he was doubting anything. It was just a suggestion.

chimmike

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previous '03 turbonetics powered Z owner here.


I now have a gtx3076 powered mazdaspeed3. You still think a stock HR can take me? I've walked CTS-V coupes at 24psi. I'm running 28 now.

BornSlippyZ

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Just for ***** and giggles, 2007 MS3 Nurburgring times are 8:39 and the 2003 350Z was 8:26. Not that bench racing matters but, it is what it is.

CWP_MS3

Meh, I agree its not ideal, but it is what it is. You always have the MS6 if a high HP FWD car isn't your thing. You just gotta know that you have limitations, but I don't find them impeding my ability to enjoy my car.

If they had still made the MS6, that's exactly what I would have bought. However, for $25k and if you're in the market for a brand new car, you will not find a faster or more versatile car. That's why I bought one.

Sure I could have bought an Evo (or an STI) that someone beat to **** and didn't maintain very well, but I chose to know everything about my car. And I don't regret it - mainly because of reasons like this thread. The Mazdaspeeds are underdogs, and cars that doen't get enough recognition.

I'm telling you now, if you think a stock 350z is going to walk, let alone beat, a modded and tuned MS3 (especially E85) you're in for a rude awakening.

CWP_MS3

Yes I am, or I'm stating that he did not know how to drive his car. Or perhaps he was on a stock tune or a POS off-the-shelf map. And I say that with absolute confidence.

Nismo350z#0310

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You're a ruhtard. No one is making a case like that. The argument has been stock vs stock. Good job on having your 24psi wagon beat a Caddy. Maybe you can take the kids out to ice cream after the soccer game in it this weekend too.

bmyles

Nobody's even talking about lap times. Straight line speed only in this case. I had an MS3 with a gt2871 and now I have an '03 Z with 4.08 gears. My MS3 was so much faster, it's not even fair.

chimmike

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Congrats on spending over $30k on your Nismo edition that can't put down more than 300whp stock. lolz.

That's okay though, that you know, my 4 door econo-wagon could embarrass your nismo in any test of speed. Yep, autocross, road course, drag race.

That's okay. I had a Z. I know what they are, and I probably spent more on mods in that thing that you have, and mine was certainly faster than your is. I think I've also been a member of this forum since before you began masturbating to the sound of your VQ exhaust.

But I'm honest when I say that the car I drive now, baby seat in back and all, is faster than my Z ever was. And I haven't even upgraded suspension yet other than a rear sway bar and rear camber arms.

My Z looked better than yours does, too. So if you wanna play the name calling game, we can assclown.

Stock HR is not beating a tuned stock turbo MS3 on e85. Just ain't gonna happen unless by some miracle that HR is putting down 300whp. But alas....they're not.

Nismo350z#0310

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Stock for stock an HR is faster, are you saying different?

Edmunds road test:
madzaspeed Speed 3: 5.9 second 0-60mph, 14.4-second quarter-mile at 99 mph

2007 350Z: 5.1 seconds 0-60 mph, 13.6 seconds at 103 mph in the quarter-mile.

?

CWP_MS3

Lmao, not it wasn't. There were comments made that it takes 30PSI and forged cranks and pixie dust for an MS to run 12's. LOL, and that a stock HR could walk any stock turbo MS3.