Drove my first 350z (revised)
04-05-2013, 11:31 AM
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Define "ANY" speed3. So it has to be bone stock? That's not what "any" means. It means it can have bolt-ons/tune/e85, just like an HR can have. It's game over at that point, trust me.
04-05-2013, 11:34 AM
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Congrats on spending over $30k on your Nismo edition that can't put down more than 300whp stock. lolz.
That's okay though, that you know, my 4 door econo-wagon could embarrass your nismo in any test of speed. Yep, autocross, road course, drag race.
That's okay. I had a Z. I know what they are, and I probably spent more on mods in that thing that you have, and mine was certainly faster than your is. I think I've also been a member of this forum since before you began masturbating to the sound of your VQ exhaust.
But I'm honest when I say that the car I drive now, baby seat in back and all, is faster than my Z ever was. And I haven't even upgraded suspension yet other than a rear sway bar and rear camber arms.
My Z looked better than yours does, too. So if you wanna play the name calling game, we can assclown.
Stock HR is not beating a tuned stock turbo MS3 on e85. Just ain't gonna happen unless by some miracle that HR is putting down 300whp. But alas....they're not.
Edit: Also the Nismo is a completely different beast in terms of handling performance than a standard Z. If you're bringing any type of argument that some slightly modified MS3 is going to out handle a NIsmo you're gonna get laughed out of this forum.
I've put a lot of work and pride into the car. It's no push over in the looks either.
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04-05-2013, 11:35 AM
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I stand by my previous statement about FWD cars vs. RWD, and If I had the choice to mod my TC or my Z, it would be my Z. IMHO any Mazda I would own, I would own FD and 3 rotor the fawker. Man I feel like I have gone back in time and losses some IQ points in this discussion. Enjoy your MS3, and I have done the same thing 18 years ago lol.
04-05-2013, 11:36 AM
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No, I'm not. I'm saying that the car you beat was stock. And I have personally seen stock Mazdaspeed3s run faster than a 14.3 and I have seen time slips for stock speeds running 13.8's.
13.6 is impressive for a stock car. But your buddy Joker here, seems to think that a stock HR will beat any stock turbo speed, not pushing 30psi (lulz).
13.6 is impressive for a stock car. But your buddy Joker here, seems to think that a stock HR will beat any stock turbo speed, not pushing 30psi (lulz).
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04-05-2013, 11:39 AM
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No, I'm not. And I have personally seen stock Mazdaspeed3s run faster than a 14.3 and I have seen time slips for stock speeds running 13.8's.
13.6 is impressive for a stock car. But your buddy Joker here, seems to think that a stock HR will beat any stock turbo speed, not pushing 30psi (lulz).
13.6 is impressive for a stock car. But your buddy Joker here, seems to think that a stock HR will beat any stock turbo speed, not pushing 30psi (lulz).
I will not make the argument that a higher boosted MS3 will lose to an HR. I won't even make the argument that a bolt-on MS3 would lose to an HR.
04-05-2013, 11:41 AM
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Even if it made 300whp. As you know, a stock turbo MS3 with bolt ons and E can put down well over 300hp and an ungodly amount of torque.
04-05-2013, 11:42 AM
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Yes.
04-05-2013, 11:58 AM
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So we are talking drag, 1/4 times? So you do agree around green hell, stock for stock, the MS3 is slower.
I stand by my previous statement about FWD cars vs. RWD, and If I had the choice to mod my TC or my Z, it would be my Z. IMHO any Mazda I would own, I would own FD and 3 rotor the fawker. Man I feel like I have gone back in time and losses some IQ points in this discussion. Enjoy your MS3, and I have done the same thing 18 years ago lol.
I stand by my previous statement about FWD cars vs. RWD, and If I had the choice to mod my TC or my Z, it would be my Z. IMHO any Mazda I would own, I would own FD and 3 rotor the fawker. Man I feel like I have gone back in time and losses some IQ points in this discussion. Enjoy your MS3, and I have done the same thing 18 years ago lol.
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04-05-2013, 12:42 PM
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30psi was a sarcastic number. anything over 20psi is crazy.add 8 lbs of boost to both stock cars and z will destroy an ms3. stock for stock it destroys the ms3. i will put any amount of money that a fully tuned and modded, non turbo, Z w/e85 will destroy a fully modded and tuned e85 ms3. i also doubt that the ms3 will get traction with fwd, or make 320whp. not to mention a lot of these VQ35 engines are making 550hp+ on a turbo setup, i dont see an ms3 engine doing that. its like the honda guys trying to make 300whp.
04-05-2013, 01:16 PM
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http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...-50mix-104935/
Intake, downpipe, exhaust, upgraded I/C (doesn't do much), tune, e85. nuff said
Intake, downpipe, exhaust, upgraded I/C (doesn't do much), tune, e85. nuff said
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04-05-2013, 01:40 PM
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Whoa! take it easy there bra. @255ft lbs of torque...that's honda territory right there.
04-05-2013, 01:44 PM
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there is so much room for improvements with my Z not offended still breaks necks and smokes cars but no where near finished...dynoed it for ***** in giggles with my winter set up...all stock with just injen gen3 cai...cant complain love the HR for the platform tho
04-05-2013, 01:46 PM
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there is so much room for improvements with my Z not offended still breaks necks and smokes cars but no where near finished...dynoed it for ***** in giggles with my winter set up...all stock with just injen gen3 cai...cant complain love the HR for the platform tho
Anyways if there are any 350z's up to 450whp, I'm down to race.
04-05-2013, 01:47 PM
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My thread went to **** when I mentioned my Speed3 lol!
I think we can all agree the Speed3 is a capable fast car that can also take the family for ice cream
Yet so is the Audi S4 which stock for stock would smoke an HR Z or a Speed3 but it's also $50k. It really comes down to preference and how much you got to spend.
The Z looks better than a Speed3, both cars are fun and I do wish the Speed3 was RWD or AWD because that torque steer sucks!
I think we can all agree the Speed3 is a capable fast car that can also take the family for ice cream
Yet so is the Audi S4 which stock for stock would smoke an HR Z or a Speed3 but it's also $50k. It really comes down to preference and how much you got to spend.The Z looks better than a Speed3, both cars are fun and I do wish the Speed3 was RWD or AWD because that torque steer sucks!
04-05-2013, 01:52 PM
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350z's are only fast when there not N/A. Without that, they are just slow. But a turbo 350 is pure sex. However, a new 5.0 mustang has 412 hp so wtf? BTW here is my dyno with an intake and off the shelf tune from cobb. 270 whp/ 280 wtq
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...results-66738/
I have not been back to the dyno, but i am fully bolted minus meth and 85 now.
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...results-66738/
I have not been back to the dyno, but i am fully bolted minus meth and 85 now.
04-05-2013, 01:54 PM
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Drove my first 350z (revised)
Since the last thread turned into Speed3 Vs 350Z war. I wanted to update my thread. With my opinion on the Z after driving a second Z
So today I test drove this sexy 05 roadster with 32k on it. This baby was bone stock and wow what a difference. I fell in love with this car after two minutes of driving it. That other Z I drove I now know was complete garbage.
The car was a blast to drive and I really enjoyed the drop top. I might have to consider buying a roadster now
So today I test drove this sexy 05 roadster with 32k on it. This baby was bone stock and wow what a difference. I fell in love with this car after two minutes of driving it. That other Z I drove I now know was complete garbage.
The car was a blast to drive and I really enjoyed the drop top. I might have to consider buying a roadster now
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04-05-2013, 01:57 PM
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What's going on in here? A bunch of tiny-phallused teenagers who couldn't handle a 10 HP lawnmower talking about how slow each other's cars are.
You paper racers need to grow a pair and stop comparing numbers and dynos. Track vids or STFU and set yourself on fire.
You paper racers need to grow a pair and stop comparing numbers and dynos. Track vids or STFU and set yourself on fire.