So just because someone hasn't ran faster than a 13.1 it automatically is slower by default? The Z34 just came out.. the 13.1 time by our members didnt come until months and months after the release of the HR.

I believe you are confused on what fact is... no one knows what the Z34 is capable of yet because barely any have even taken it to the track.. that doesn't make it slower by default!

All good though.. you can believe that your 350z > 370z and i'll have my own beliefs.

You still haven't answered me if you'd be quicker with a VQ37VHR swap in your car and shorter gears.. but somehow magically with that combo I take it you'd be SLOWER..

Ever heard of Power to weight ratio? You keep same weight, add more power, and shorter gears = faster car

 

Not confused at all. Fact is the 370z hasn't proven itself yet and is still slower than the 350Z HR until it has proven and beaten the best stock time.

People who are into racing see things the way I am talking about. Others above agree.

 

Just answer one question..

Would you be faster with a VQ37VHR and shorter gears?

I understand your point, but I just want to know where you stand on that question... you keep avoiding it

 

The gears is what will make the difference not the engine. My car is faster because I have more Torque and Torque is what wins races.

 

So the motor is less capable than our HRs and the gearing is what will make the difference. I see.

 

btw some DEs dyno with higher torque than HRs, so using your philosophy the DEs, which are lighter than the HRs should be quicker..

 

BS your car doesn't make more torque. You made 245lbft of torque.https://my350z.com/forum/7006845-post201.html The 370z made 261lbft of torque https://my350z.com/forum/attachments...s-balanced.jpg Both on dynojets which give consistent numbers.

 

He's going to throw the "Different dynos" argument in
5.. 4... 3...

 

Oh I know he will but they're dynojets which can't be skewed. I'll get shariff, sam, or george in here to back me up if he wants.

 

All I have to say is:

It dont matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.

 

350Z



370Z



Sloth (370Z) might be stronger......but I'd still rather be Brad Pitt (350Z)

 

LMAO at the pics.

 

Man you guys are still arguing about this stuff.

1/4 mile times and trap speeds are telling, but I'll be honest, I'm looking forward to youtube vids of some good ole' highway runs.

 

+1

Eliminate traction issues for proper results.

 

That has more bolt ons. Give me the same mods I will make more torque than them.

 

Wow more ignorant responses from the noob. Conditions, Cars, dynos calibrations are all different between them all. You can not compare between dynos and cars.

 

Not really...its dissapoiting that these 'mag' drivers can't drive... I am eagerly awaiting a 370Z to pull off a better time believe me..there is no HR vs 370Z love / hate crap on my end... I have no stake either way...

You can't skew facts sir...

1. Pat Bateman ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.150@107.62mph 2.027 60ft
2. Veetec --------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.157@105.32mph 1.938 60ft
3. Peak350 -------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.239@105.67mph 1.923 60ft

When the 370Z runs a time better (regardless of how many times) then the 350ZHR > 370Z equation will shift... you can't simply walk in here and change facts by coming up with a number you like or average and then making the comparison.

 

Thank god you don't do anything important in life... WOW.


If Motortrend tells you a pig can fly further than a turkey do you take their word for it or wait until the pig flies to call it a win?

 

Considering George and Sharif have both had stock HRs and VHRs on their dynos... I'd say it's a fair comparison pertaining to their own dyno and not each others.

 

I agree Blasian, but when you can't put the same mods on the HR that the VHR had that day, then it isn't a comparison. Stock vs Stock the VHR obviously dynos more. But we are talking about gains per mod. Put the same mods on the HR car and you will see pretty much the same gains as the VHR gets.