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I agree. It reminds me of the early to mid 1990s when the Z and the Supra went head to head. Hopefully the new Z will be just as competitive with the new Supra as it was back then. Maybe Nissan will make the new Z better than the new Supra. And hopefully Nissan will get it right the first year and not have to do what Toyota has done with the 2021 Supra by having to make significant changes to the suspension set up to make the car handle and ride better.
As long as they continue offering a manual transmission year one. Still infuriates me about the A91 Supra... I would be buying one if it had a manual option. Runs 9's for $5k and looks fantastic in person.
The '90s were fantastic years for Japanese sports cars. I would love to get a repeat of that. SO much competition... Z, Supra, RX7, Skyline, Evo, STI, 3000GT, Eclipse GSX, Silvia, NSX. The choices did NOT suck.
As long as they continue offering a manual transmission year one. Still infuriates me about the A91 Supra... I would be buying one if it had a manual option. Runs 9's for $5k and looks fantastic in person.
The '90s were fantastic years for Japanese sports cars. I would love to get a repeat of that. SO much competition... Z, Supra, RX7, Skyline, Evo, STI, 3000GT, Eclipse GSX, Silvia, NSX. The choices did NOT suck.
I certainly hope Nissan offers a manual transmission. If not I'm going to be very disappointed. I suppose that is a really interesting question though. Most car manufacturers are going away from manuals. Heck, the new C8 isn't available with a manual. I think that is the first time a manual isn't available in a Corvette.
Yes the 90s were a great time for Japanese sports cars. My sister had a 3000 GT and I had an Eclipse GSX during those years.
LOL! I don't know about that, but I was definitely a fan of 90s Japanese performance cars. Sounds like you were too.
Same thing is happening with new Ferrari's and Porsche's too. I get that dual clutch transmissions are much faster, they just don't require the same driver involvement.
I dunno..... it seems old already. Then again, who's doing what in the post-Corona area these days? Can you imagine if "the pandemic costs us a new Z".
Meh...doesn't do anything for me. If they stuck more with the old S30 lines, then I'd be interested. I don't really agree with the Q chassis and engine for the new Z, if those rumors are to be true.
Well then, you don't need to hold it that long because it's going to be shown on the 15th here in the States. Hahaha.
But yeah, with all the media hype this tease is getting, I have little doubt they've got a media event planned for the 16th (in Japan, 5:30pm PDT here). But that's all it'll be.... a media event.
Someone on one of the local Z groups posted "Enthusiasts will leave Nissan in droves if they don't nail it." Yeah, I concur on that. But I would add, "Where would they go though?" Supra? Porsche? BMW? Ehhhh, I'll stay put until I drive one then make a decision. It will likely still be a decent value car. (I'm hoping.) Maybe I'll go put a down payment on the first Nismo version just for the halibut.
I mean, most of us with Zs aren't getting rid of them if Nissan happens to mess the new Z up. I don't see many people other than YouTube or IG kids lining up for the car. It's likely priced out of range of kids and it it underperforms then we have to Supra and C8, sadly the era of 2 seat sports cars is coming to an end.
For me, if the new Z has a manual trans, updated interior that isn't complete crap (it's the small things in life), and performs better than the Z34 NISMO I think Nissan did their job. The Z has never been about being the fastest but has a history of a good driving experience. I don't see why that would change with this release.
The secret to a successful new Z...
To be better than the Supra, just don't make the new Z ugly.
To be better than the C8, give the Z a manual trans.
Here's the problem with that statement:
Although it might be different for everybody, being better would mean matching or beating their performance and I just don't think that is possible with a 3.0l engine tied to a manual trans unless it has a ridiculous power level.
Honestly, I really don’t see why it needs to “beat” the other cars in terms of 0-60 or anything else. The Z car, going all the way back to the beginning, were never speed demons, never beat Corvettes, barely ever beat a six-cylinder BMW.
But, they were fun, sporty GT cars that could be made to handle and accelerate with the best for not a lot of money or effort.
So, given these progenitor characteristics, I’d say that It needs a performance upgrade to be contemporary, a willing (or easily tweakable) chassis, styling that is new (even if based on old lines). And at a more than competitive price point will make this a winner.
In other words, Nissan needs to give us an evolved Z car and change it up every couple of years with engine or suspension options, revive the competition and contingency programs. Stop catering to wannabes and give the enthusiasts a car they can be proud of. The Z34, at 12 model years old is a joke and only aging mid-lifers are buying them.
We shall see. Nissan has gotten pretty stale; so waiting to be disappointed but hopefully will be proved entirely wrong.
Mic I sorta agree with you, but the markets back then and now are completely different. I don't think it needs to "beat" the remaining sports cars. But it would render itself irrelevant if it was released as a car with a 5 sec 0-60 time and a $45k price tag. It needs to keep up with the competition if Nissan wants to sell it, or offer a significant value over the competition.
Back when the S30 came out it was a relatively high performance car which did very well in racing using a lot of stock components. Those days are long gone and Nissan seems to have forgotten what made the S30 such a success so in my opinion a three litre engine is just not good enough, turbocharged or not. It's almost like Nissan is afraid to challenge the top end of town, particularly with a premium high performance version. I won't use the word NISMO, that name has been prostituted in the name of bling.
Exactly my thoughts when it comes to powerplant, it should be 3.8l minimum. For the entire life span of the car it has INCREASED in displacement every time the new model released. This should be no different.
Exactly my thoughts when it comes to powerplant, it should be 3.8l minimum. For the entire life span of the car it has INCREASED in displacement every time the new model released. This should be no different.
Yes, say a 3.8 NA with a truly high performance turbo version available too. If the high performance is there then Nissan could sell that version at a premium price and make a nice profit on each one.
Anyway, there will be more real info on the Z35 very soon.
