RevUp Oil Consumption TSB and discussion
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Nismospeed4life, We did talk this afternoon, and yes I concur with the advise 06CPV35 originally gave you. Should be OK being .5 grts over filled, anymore (like 1 qrt) then I would be concerned of internal engine damage happening over a period of time.
I always stay nearby (at the garage bay door) at the dealership when they are draining the oil and I always check it afterwards and before I leave the dealer.
Now about your dipstick and the web based paper ruler from page 1. I just printed the web paper ruler and measured it on a real ruler. It matches, then again, if your printer is out of wack on the dpi or ppi (printer jargon) then the ruler printed would be off as in either expanded as it looks like in your picture, or compressed which would give it a smaller reading than what it is actually. Short story: go buy a real ruler from Office Depot or Staples for 59 cents. I also just now, pulled my dipstick and measured it against the real ruler and the paper and indeed its 24mm from the “L” hash mark to the “H” hash mark. I doubt there are two different dipsticks in the environment for the 350z’s. To prove this I just measured the dipstick from my 05 350z and indeed it is the same as the 06. They both also have stamped near the top of the stick the number AC700. See if yours has the same markings and measures out the same with a REAL ruler.
Btw: When the dealer said you will need a new clunk (tranny) then listen for the tea pot sound, when you start to hear it, its time for a new one. A few I have heard of have had theirs also replaced right after. My guess it was a shoddy install with the new engine that caused the tranny to go out soon after. No biggee, it’s under warranty and you will now have NEW, almost everything minus the differential.
Sorry I did not get this posted while you were still online, I had to pull some dipsticks and print and etc, etc. Its gotta be midnight were you are, and its a Sunday, so we all have to go back to work tomorrow.
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Yup...confirmed from a professional tribologist (oil guy), and from Resolute (Will) that these engines are taking longer to break-in than the DE series. Mine is coming up to 15k and Will indicated that this used oil analysis MAY finally show the engine settling in (rings and pistons seating) for longevity. Keep in mind that mine is doing so well because I am getting tuning advice from Dysonanalysis. There’s other stuff being done to the tune to help with the break-in and the fact I am have the oil analyzed and making adjustments to the oil type, air filtration amongst other things.
On the flip side 06CPV35 has had faster results with his break-in than mine, again with the correct oil and break-in procedures that he and I have mentioned here many times.
It’s working for us, so you may want to invest in a little $$ and have a UOA (used oil analysis) done and get tuning advice from Terry Dyson of dysonanalysis.
On the flip side 06CPV35 has had faster results with his break-in than mine, again with the correct oil and break-in procedures that he and I have mentioned here many times.
It’s working for us, so you may want to invest in a little $$ and have a UOA (used oil analysis) done and get tuning advice from Terry Dyson of dysonanalysis.
Thanks for sharing, hope I am quieting down finally. Just curious, can you share what kind of tuning advice you're getting?
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Btw: When the dealer said you will need a new clunk (tranny) then listen for the tea pot sound, when you start to hear it, its time for a new one. A few I have heard of have had theirs also replaced right after. My guess it was a shoddy install with the new engine that caused the tranny to go out soon after. No biggee, it’s under warranty and you will now have NEW, almost everything minus the differential.
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Ha..ha...you are just not used to all this rain we are getting....giving you the blues...And what are you belly aching about time change...we got an extra hour of sleep this morning...lol.
Nismospeed4life, We did talk this afternoon, and yes I concur with the advise 06CPV35 originally gave you. Should be OK being .5 grts over filled, anymore (like 1 qrt) then I would be concerned of internal engine damage happening over a period of time.
I always stay nearby (at the garage bay door) at the dealership when they are draining the oil and I always check it afterwards and before I leave the dealer.
Now about your dipstick and the web based paper ruler from page 1. I just printed the web paper ruler and measured it on a real ruler. It matches, then again, if your printer is out of wack on the dpi or ppi (printer jargon) then the ruler printed would be off as in either expanded as it looks like in your picture, or compressed which would give it a smaller reading than what it is actually. Short story: go buy a real ruler from Office Depot or Staples for 59 cents. I also just now, pulled my dipstick and measured it against the real ruler and the paper and indeed its 24mm from the “L” hash mark to the “H” hash mark. I doubt there are two different dipsticks in the environment for the 350z’s. To prove this I just measured the dipstick from my 05 350z and indeed it is the same as the 06. They both also have stamped near the top of the stick the number AC700. See if yours has the same markings and measures out the same with a REAL ruler.
Btw: When the dealer said you will need a new clunk (tranny) then listen for the tea pot sound, when you start to hear it, its time for a new one. A few I have heard of have had theirs also replaced right after. My guess it was a shoddy install with the new engine that caused the tranny to go out soon after. No biggee, it’s under warranty and you will now have NEW, almost everything minus the differential.
Sorry I did not get this posted while you were still online, I had to pull some dipsticks and print and etc, etc. Its gotta be midnight were you are, and its a Sunday, so we all have to go back to work tomorrow.
Cheers
Curtis
Nismospeed4life, We did talk this afternoon, and yes I concur with the advise 06CPV35 originally gave you. Should be OK being .5 grts over filled, anymore (like 1 qrt) then I would be concerned of internal engine damage happening over a period of time.
I always stay nearby (at the garage bay door) at the dealership when they are draining the oil and I always check it afterwards and before I leave the dealer.
Now about your dipstick and the web based paper ruler from page 1. I just printed the web paper ruler and measured it on a real ruler. It matches, then again, if your printer is out of wack on the dpi or ppi (printer jargon) then the ruler printed would be off as in either expanded as it looks like in your picture, or compressed which would give it a smaller reading than what it is actually. Short story: go buy a real ruler from Office Depot or Staples for 59 cents. I also just now, pulled my dipstick and measured it against the real ruler and the paper and indeed its 24mm from the “L” hash mark to the “H” hash mark. I doubt there are two different dipsticks in the environment for the 350z’s. To prove this I just measured the dipstick from my 05 350z and indeed it is the same as the 06. They both also have stamped near the top of the stick the number AC700. See if yours has the same markings and measures out the same with a REAL ruler.
Btw: When the dealer said you will need a new clunk (tranny) then listen for the tea pot sound, when you start to hear it, its time for a new one. A few I have heard of have had theirs also replaced right after. My guess it was a shoddy install with the new engine that caused the tranny to go out soon after. No biggee, it’s under warranty and you will now have NEW, almost everything minus the differential.
Sorry I did not get this posted while you were still online, I had to pull some dipsticks and print and etc, etc. Its gotta be midnight were you are, and its a Sunday, so we all have to go back to work tomorrow.
Cheers
Curtis
I think you may be right about the ruler. I am sure the printers DPI had something to do with that. I cant say this enough, I am so thankful for people like Resolute, 06CPV35 and yourself for providing great sound advice to other fellow Z & G enthusiats. I do greatly apreciate you guys time and efforts in answering all our questions without ever making anyone on here sound like they are dumb. Thanks again.
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FINALLY! Mine is at the dealership getting a new engine right now. Dropped off today and will pick up tomorrow. Their only GT-R tech is the one doing the work.
FWIW, during the consumption test, mine burned 25+ mm; or almost 3 times above the "OK" mark per the TSB. Dealership made no excuses and ordered an engine ASAP.
FWIW, during the consumption test, mine burned 25+ mm; or almost 3 times above the "OK" mark per the TSB. Dealership made no excuses and ordered an engine ASAP.
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FINALLY! Mine is at the dealership getting a new engine right now. Dropped off today and will pick up tomorrow. Their only GT-R tech is the one doing the work.
FWIW, during the consumption test, mine burned 25+ mm; or almost 3 times above the "OK" mark per the TSB. Dealership made no excuses and ordered an engine ASAP.
FWIW, during the consumption test, mine burned 25+ mm; or almost 3 times above the "OK" mark per the TSB. Dealership made no excuses and ordered an engine ASAP.
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My tech did my first V2 swap in a day. He's done more than 15 also.
Ive personally seen him remove and put back a Z 6spd tranny in less than 20 minutes, ready to drive. (throw out bearing TSB)
Ive personally seen him remove and put back a Z 6spd tranny in less than 20 minutes, ready to drive. (throw out bearing TSB)
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I called my service advisor today to have the tech take a look at my clutch pedal (makes a ticking sound) and also lower the clutch engagement point while the car is there. It will now be ready tomorrow by lunch.
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Well, I go in for an oil change today, and to see what the OC was this time around. I have been checking it, and I can never get a good reading because the way the stupid dip stick is designed. It always looks full... which would be amazing if it was, but I am sure it is not.
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Well, I go in for an oil change today, and to see what the OC was this time around. I have been checking it, and I can never get a good reading because the way the stupid dip stick is designed. It always looks full... which would be amazing if it was, but I am sure it is not.
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Think it's safe to speak for ZeeForce on this. He as well as I have mentioned it countless times. UOA's are you friend ![thumbup](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/biggthumpup.gif)
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We have a gentleman’s agreement. 06CPV35 can contest to this as his also getting advice from Terry.
ZeeForce,
I think you may be right about the ruler. I am sure the printers DPI had something to do with that. I cant say this enough, I am so thankful for people like Resolute, 06CPV35 and yourself for providing great sound advice to other fellow Z & G enthusiasts. I do greatly appreciate you guys time and efforts in answering all our questions without ever making anyone on here sound like they are dumb. Thanks again.![thumbup](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/biggthumpup.gif)
I think you may be right about the ruler. I am sure the printers DPI had something to do with that. I cant say this enough, I am so thankful for people like Resolute, 06CPV35 and yourself for providing great sound advice to other fellow Z & G enthusiasts. I do greatly appreciate you guys time and efforts in answering all our questions without ever making anyone on here sound like they are dumb. Thanks again.
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What is the tea pot sound? My tranny whines on deceleration is this normal?
I cannot honestly say what the “tea pot sound is” as I have never experienced it. Although I have heard of some here and on other forums have the same problem after an engine swap, and this is the phrase that they have coined the sound. It’s under warranty, have it checked out by the dealer,
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....respect Terry’ wish to keep his proprietary tuning advise confidential. It’s what is keeping his business going. I pay what some would consider a hefty amount for his tuning advice (60.00) although it’s worth every penny. If I give out his advice, he would be out of business on the consumer side in no time. My apologies, but we all have to pay for information at some point.
We have a gentleman’s agreement. 06CPV35 can contest to this as his also getting advice from Terry.
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Hello, this is the first time I've replied to anything I've read but I have found the reading to be very interesting. I just got my 2006 350z back yesterday from the dealer after the first and hopefully last engine replacement. I have a couple of questions,
1) I was told by the dealer to drive the car like you would any new car for the break in period. I was reading about someone who stated they were starting the dreadful and painstaking break in period....are there things that should be done that the dealer isn' saying?
2) I was reading on the Mobil 1 website that the new Niaasn GT R will come from the factory with Mobil 1. I had used it in my Z prior to the new engine so I bought 5 qts and told the dealer to put it in when they fill the new engine. When I picked the car up they said Nissan recomends regular 5w 30 and didn't put the Mobil 1 in. The service mgr had told me when I had asked about putting Mobil 1 in that he was not keen on it. What do you think?
I want to give this new engine every chance I can to not burn oil and I don't feel I'm getting enough info from the dealer since they told me I was the first replacement they did and had never heard about this problem til I showed up.
Any information you can give will be appreciated..........Thanks
1) I was told by the dealer to drive the car like you would any new car for the break in period. I was reading about someone who stated they were starting the dreadful and painstaking break in period....are there things that should be done that the dealer isn' saying?
2) I was reading on the Mobil 1 website that the new Niaasn GT R will come from the factory with Mobil 1. I had used it in my Z prior to the new engine so I bought 5 qts and told the dealer to put it in when they fill the new engine. When I picked the car up they said Nissan recomends regular 5w 30 and didn't put the Mobil 1 in. The service mgr had told me when I had asked about putting Mobil 1 in that he was not keen on it. What do you think?
I want to give this new engine every chance I can to not burn oil and I don't feel I'm getting enough info from the dealer since they told me I was the first replacement they did and had never heard about this problem til I showed up.
Any information you can give will be appreciated..........Thanks
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ZeeForce,
I think you may be right about the ruler. I am sure the printers DPI had something to do with that. I cant say this enough, I am so thankful for people like Resolute, 06CPV35 and yourself for providing great sound advice to other fellow Z & G enthusiats. I do greatly apreciate you guys time and efforts in answering all our questions without ever making anyone on here sound like they are dumb. Thanks again.![thumbup](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/biggthumpup.gif)
I think you may be right about the ruler. I am sure the printers DPI had something to do with that. I cant say this enough, I am so thankful for people like Resolute, 06CPV35 and yourself for providing great sound advice to other fellow Z & G enthusiats. I do greatly apreciate you guys time and efforts in answering all our questions without ever making anyone on here sound like they are dumb. Thanks again.
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No question is ever dumb in my book. I've had many myself on other Z/G topics.
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