RevUp Oil Consumption TSB and discussion
10-16-2007, 10:33 AM
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Well guys, I'm officially joining this thread.
My '06 350z went in last week for it's first oil consumption test. I bought the car with 20k miles on it and have put on an additional 20 (I drive a lot, ha) and in that time I've actually had the oil run almost dry to the point where valve tapping was VERY audible from the engine. I went in today after 1k miles and I was down two quarts.
According to the service guy, they are contacting Nissan to order a new "short block", even though I know that will not be the case if/when Nissan approves the engine swap. I just hope they send me the V2... I really don't want to swap out the engine just to get another oil burner. I'll update when I get more info and I'll try to get the part number from them when they call.
One thing was nice... I only had to do one test and they were very quick to get on the phone with NNA to get a new engine in. I'm glad I didn't have to go the BBB route.
My '06 350z went in last week for it's first oil consumption test. I bought the car with 20k miles on it and have put on an additional 20 (I drive a lot, ha) and in that time I've actually had the oil run almost dry to the point where valve tapping was VERY audible from the engine. I went in today after 1k miles and I was down two quarts.
According to the service guy, they are contacting Nissan to order a new "short block", even though I know that will not be the case if/when Nissan approves the engine swap. I just hope they send me the V2... I really don't want to swap out the engine just to get another oil burner. I'll update when I get more info and I'll try to get the part number from them when they call.
One thing was nice... I only had to do one test and they were very quick to get on the phone with NNA to get a new engine in. I'm glad I didn't have to go the BBB route.
10-16-2007, 03:04 PM
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Does anybody have anything in writing stating the differences of the so called "V2". I am going the BBB route and have yet to get a call back from an NNA specialist who knows anything about the motor. My file is in the Arbitration dept. Basically, my dealer states the motor ending in Z is just a crock to quiet some people down and all it has is rings from a different parts vendor. Someone show me something in writing or something otherwise Ill believe this is the case.
10-16-2007, 03:05 PM
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500 miles no OC with replacement "V1"....I know it will though because my original v1 didnt start burning right away.
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10-16-2007, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 9kFever
Does anybody have anything in writing stating the differences of the so called "V2". I am going the BBB route and have yet to get a call back from an NNA specialist who knows anything about the motor. My file is in the Arbitration dept. Basically, my dealer states the motor ending in Z is just a crock to quiet some people down and all it has is rings from a different parts vendor. Someone show me something in writing or something otherwise Ill believe this is the case.
although if everyone with a v1 or replaced v2 goes and asks whoever installed their motor for the engine number of both the old and new motor, we might be able to see if theres a differences there, cuz the part number isnt helping much at the moment.
10-16-2007, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by creationv2
no writing...like somone mentioned earlier...only way to find out is if someone sacrifices themselves for a full motor tear down and inpects to see if there is any differences.
although if everyone with a v1 or replaced v2 goes and asks whoever installed their motor for the engine number of both the old and new motor, we might be able to see if theres a differences there, cuz the part number isnt helping much at the moment.
although if everyone with a v1 or replaced v2 goes and asks whoever installed their motor for the engine number of both the old and new motor, we might be able to see if theres a differences there, cuz the part number isnt helping much at the moment.
10-16-2007, 04:27 PM
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Burns 1qt per 3K miles. Compression test pending at next oil change. Definitely burns more with cruising (cruise control) in 6th gear on the highway vs stop/go driving. Also burns more as the oil gets some miles on it.
10-16-2007, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 9kFever
Does anybody have anything in writing stating the differences of the so called "V2". I am going the BBB route and have yet to get a call back from an NNA specialist who knows anything about the motor. My file is in the Arbitration dept. Basically, my dealer states the motor ending in Z is just a crock to quiet some people down and all it has is rings from a different parts vendor. Someone show me something in writing or something otherwise Ill believe this is the case.
"Basically, my dealer states the motor ending in Z is just a crock to quiet some people down and all it has is rings from a different parts vendor."
DUH
With all due respect, is he an idiot? If rings were the cause of the blowby because of faulty manufacture, as MY head service tech told me he was told by NNA, then new engines with rings from a different source THAT WERE MANUFACTURED TO SPEC could and would very well solve the blowby and consumption issue. I can't see why you keep advocating we are due some "new" revolutionary manufactured engine when the culprit was poorly manufactured rings. I think your dealer is amiss in his logic!
The reason the majority of us with the V2 are no longer consuming is because our new engines were built with the new rings sourced from a different manufactor and built to correct specs/tolerances.
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10-16-2007, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by antennahead
"Basically, my dealer states the motor ending in Z is just a crock to quiet some people down and all it has is rings from a different parts vendor."
DUH
With all due respect, is he an idiot? If rings were the cause of the blowby because of faulty manufacture, as MY head service tech told me he was told by NNA, then new engines with rings from a different source THAT WERE MANUFACTURED TO SPEC could and would very well solve the blowby and consumption issue. I can't see why you keep advocating we are due some "new" revolutionary manufactured engine when the culprit was poorly manufactured rings. I think your dealer is amiss in his logic!
The reason the majority of us with the V2 are no longer consuming is because our new engines were built with the new rings sourced from a different manufactor and built to correct specs/tolerances.
DUH
With all due respect, is he an idiot? If rings were the cause of the blowby because of faulty manufacture, as MY head service tech told me he was told by NNA, then new engines with rings from a different source THAT WERE MANUFACTURED TO SPEC could and would very well solve the blowby and consumption issue. I can't see why you keep advocating we are due some "new" revolutionary manufactured engine when the culprit was poorly manufactured rings. I think your dealer is amiss in his logic!
The reason the majority of us with the V2 are no longer consuming is because our new engines were built with the new rings sourced from a different manufactor and built to correct specs/tolerances.
Yea those who comment on the it should like thin oil. There are some engines that do not perform well on thin oil this is fact. This engine while looking at some resolute thread shows some great fantastic results with some 10w30s 40s alot of thicker oils seem to be the way for this engine from what i seen. Especially since our engine is 30% different just to rev higher i say thicker oil maybey in order.
I tell you since using 0w40. Its been great so far , no consumption phenonminal results via resolute on startups due to the thickness and performance. As long as i have a NA VQ35DER i will be using 0w40 mobile 1 as long as they dont change the formula in some detremental way. I mean amsoil still ranks higher aswell but with 0w40 being such a great oil found everywhere and used with specs that are exact to porshe aston martin etc....its a easy buy for me.
Honeslty instead of seeing a fcking thread where we all btching about oil ****
i wish there was a thread with revups actually putting down some numbers NA and FI. I mean its hard to telll these days since our motor isnt very common . Majority of Zs i seen are 287s and new HRs. So yea and with products like osirus which can control our intake and exhaust cams which we are blessed with both it would be intresting to see more 300rwhp revups on a DJ.
10-16-2007, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by antennahead
"Basically, my dealer states the motor ending in Z is just a crock to quiet some people down and all it has is rings from a different parts vendor."
DUH
With all due respect, is he an idiot? If rings were the cause of the blowby because of faulty manufacture, as MY head service tech told me he was told by NNA, then new engines with rings from a different source THAT WERE MANUFACTURED TO SPEC could and would very well solve the blowby and consumption issue. I can't see why you keep advocating we are due some "new" revolutionary manufactured engine when the culprit was poorly manufactured rings. I think your dealer is amiss in his logic!
The reason the majority of us with the V2 are no longer consuming is because our new engines were built with the new rings sourced from a different manufactor and built to correct specs/tolerances.
DUH
With all due respect, is he an idiot? If rings were the cause of the blowby because of faulty manufacture, as MY head service tech told me he was told by NNA, then new engines with rings from a different source THAT WERE MANUFACTURED TO SPEC could and would very well solve the blowby and consumption issue. I can't see why you keep advocating we are due some "new" revolutionary manufactured engine when the culprit was poorly manufactured rings. I think your dealer is amiss in his logic!
The reason the majority of us with the V2 are no longer consuming is because our new engines were built with the new rings sourced from a different manufactor and built to correct specs/tolerances.
10-16-2007, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeeForce
Here is a new list of installed V2 & V1 stats.
Let me know if there is any other stats we would like to track.
Please post up your data so I can udate the spreedsheet.
Attachment 165049
Let me know if there is any other stats we would like to track.
Please post up your data so I can udate the spreedsheet.
Attachment 165049
4 haven't consumed any oil between 2000-4000 Miles
4 still are consuming
8 are still pending
I'm sorry but according to that the V2 is less than a proven fix. I want this issue resolved just as much as you guys.
My V1 didn't even start consuming until after 10k miles...
10-16-2007, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by antennahead
"Basically, my dealer states the motor ending in Z is just a crock to quiet some people down and all it has is rings from a different parts vendor."
DUH
With all due respect, is he an idiot? If rings were the cause of the blowby because of faulty manufacture, as MY head service tech told me he was told by NNA, then new engines with rings from a different source THAT WERE MANUFACTURED TO SPEC could and would very well solve the blowby and consumption issue. I can't see why you keep advocating we are due some "new" revolutionary manufactured engine when the culprit was poorly manufactured rings. I think your dealer is amiss in his logic!
The reason the majority of us with the V2 are no longer consuming is because our new engines were built with the new rings sourced from a different manufactor and built to correct specs/tolerances.
DUH
With all due respect, is he an idiot? If rings were the cause of the blowby because of faulty manufacture, as MY head service tech told me he was told by NNA, then new engines with rings from a different source THAT WERE MANUFACTURED TO SPEC could and would very well solve the blowby and consumption issue. I can't see why you keep advocating we are due some "new" revolutionary manufactured engine when the culprit was poorly manufactured rings. I think your dealer is amiss in his logic!
The reason the majority of us with the V2 are no longer consuming is because our new engines were built with the new rings sourced from a different manufactor and built to correct specs/tolerances.
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10-16-2007, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RBlover69
Honeslty instead of seeing a fcking thread where we all btching about oil ****
i wish there was a thread with revups actually putting down some numbers NA and FI. I mean its hard to telll these days since our motor isnt very common . Majority of Zs i seen are 287s and new HRs. So yea and with products like osirus which can control our intake and exhaust cams which we are blessed with both it would be intresting to see more 300rwhp revups on a DJ.
i wish there was a thread with revups actually putting down some numbers NA and FI. I mean its hard to telll these days since our motor isnt very common . Majority of Zs i seen are 287s and new HRs. So yea and with products like osirus which can control our intake and exhaust cams which we are blessed with both it would be intresting to see more 300rwhp revups on a DJ.
also when did you change to Mobil 1 0w40?
10-16-2007, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by creationv2
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also when did you change to Mobil 1 0w40?
also when did you change to Mobil 1 0w40?
I want to hit 300 whp as well....but tis pointless to mod up anymore until this is all sorted out. Sucks, wish i never sold my s2000. This OC problem has killed my modding plans.
10-16-2007, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 9kFever
I want to hit 300 whp as well....but tis pointless to mod up anymore until this is all sorted out. Sucks, wish i never sold my s2000. This OC problem has killed my modding plans.
10-16-2007, 09:32 PM
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V2 & V1 Installed Stats
Originally Posted by creationv2
im at apprx 2300miles, the first 1700 was weird, so i didnt pay attention to that except break in. at 1700 i had the oil changed(dino oil =(, no synth yet or for a while), and im currently 600miles into it. but since my mileage is still at the minimal stages, nothing i can see yet thats bad =D lets hope it stays that way.
Originally Posted by dbasal
I have not been driving much, but mine is 1qt per 3000 miles. I would label it as a 2 consuming oil for sure. Not nearly as much, but still consistent every 1000 miles.
Originally Posted by 9kFever
500 miles no OC with replacement "V1"....I know it will though because my original v1 didnt start burning right away.
As far as my original engine part # it was an “A” and the installed V2 well I have posted enough pics of the part tag it’s a “Z”
10-16-2007, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 9kFever
So according to the info we have from this forum the V2's haven't been a 100% fix.
4 haven't consumed any oil between 2000-4000 Miles
4 still are consuming
8 are still pending
I'm sorry but according to that the V2 is less than a proven fix. I want this issue resolved just as much as you guys.
My V1 didn't even start consuming until after 10k miles...
4 haven't consumed any oil between 2000-4000 Miles
4 still are consuming
8 are still pending
I'm sorry but according to that the V2 is less than a proven fix. I want this issue resolved just as much as you guys.
My V1 didn't even start consuming until after 10k miles...
It is still too soon to tell with the 8 still pending. So it's 50/50 right now.
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10-17-2007, 05:47 AM
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well if it isnt a proven fix why am i having no loss ??? my engine is a v2 but i doubt it being that special. Besides the oil im putting in it i see no reason why my engine isnt eating and other amcz are.
And the reason i stated the different different piston rings is because i was told this by people higher then NNA. My district attourney is even aware of my situation.
The end result from what i was told was a V-2 handbuilt from japan with different pistons slightly modifed and diffrent rings better seating. Thats the exact quote. So in contrary to what you been told , i looked at my reciet it says amcz or whatever i posted and about 20 other parts that where ordered for my swap.
Who am i gonna beilieve my specialist and state district attorney who got the ball rolling for me , or a manager or nna
and now i have a engine that doesnt eat oil . Go figure.
Hope we all get this resolved , im preety sure oil has a factor maybey someone should so do a cycle of 0w40 mobile 1 on the V-2.
And the reason i stated the different different piston rings is because i was told this by people higher then NNA. My district attourney is even aware of my situation.
The end result from what i was told was a V-2 handbuilt from japan with different pistons slightly modifed and diffrent rings better seating. Thats the exact quote. So in contrary to what you been told , i looked at my reciet it says amcz or whatever i posted and about 20 other parts that where ordered for my swap.
Who am i gonna beilieve my specialist and state district attorney who got the ball rolling for me , or a manager or nna
and now i have a engine that doesnt eat oil . Go figure.
Hope we all get this resolved , im preety sure oil has a factor maybey someone should so do a cycle of 0w40 mobile 1 on the V-2.
10-17-2007, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RBlover69
well if it isnt a proven fix why am i having no loss ??? my engine is a v2 but i doubt it being that special. Besides the oil im putting in it i see no reason why my engine isnt eating and other amcz are.
And the reason i stated the different different piston rings is because i was told this by people higher then NNA. My district attourney is even aware of my situation.
The end result from what i was told was a V-2 handbuilt from japan with different pistons slightly modifed and diffrent rings better seating. Thats the exact quote. So in contrary to what you been told , i looked at my reciet it says amcz or whatever i posted and about 20 other parts that where ordered for my swap.
Who am i gonna beilieve my specialist and state district attorney who got the ball rolling for me , or a manager or nna
and now i have a engine that doesnt eat oil . Go figure.
Hope we all get this resolved , im preety sure oil has a factor maybey someone should so do a cycle of 0w40 mobile 1 on the V-2.
And the reason i stated the different different piston rings is because i was told this by people higher then NNA. My district attourney is even aware of my situation.
The end result from what i was told was a V-2 handbuilt from japan with different pistons slightly modifed and diffrent rings better seating. Thats the exact quote. So in contrary to what you been told , i looked at my reciet it says amcz or whatever i posted and about 20 other parts that where ordered for my swap.
Who am i gonna beilieve my specialist and state district attorney who got the ball rolling for me , or a manager or nna
and now i have a engine that doesnt eat oil . Go figure.
Hope we all get this resolved , im preety sure oil has a factor maybey someone should so do a cycle of 0w40 mobile 1 on the V-2.
) and continue the BBB route. I am going to be giving NNA a final repair notice as soon as this V1 starts consuming.
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I'm getting sick of waiting, I got only 150miles to go and guess what? I checked my oil today 350miles into it and 1/2 qt down already, at 500miles they can't deny the consumption and I've talked to the service manager told him about the diffrent part numbers and I'm not settling till I get a motor that don't eat oil, or nissan buys back my car, I will call the bbb and start the process once I know whats up with nissan ,the guys here have been great to me and nna replaced my first motor with no prob so I hope they go the same way as before this time with no OC