RevUp Oil Consumption TSB and discussion
10-11-2007, 12:47 AM
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The question is what specific batch has the defective motors?????....If this is indeed true.
Originally Posted by RBlover69
yea, your gonna get alot of different answers my friend but the answer to the consumption has already been realeased see what you dont understand is that nissan isnt trying to make a full tsb on this issue. thats why there isnt an official v2 being release do you know the amount of recalls it would take to have every revup engine or VQ35DER come into a dealership to get 10 thousand dollar installed engines. Not very smart. Your speaking to NNA they will BS you , ...the motor we dubbed the V2 is the engine code AC7MZ or which is essientially the long block entirley.(limted supply and takes time to recieve this isnt the case with a reg revup motor) The vendors havent changed its still nissan that doesnt make any sense. if you look at the part numbers there nissan still. Along with my reciet from getting the V2 i got a follow up call from my specialist which is actually is a separate office from NNA which deals with buy backs and special attention issues with anything NNA cannot solve. They asked me hows the engine and if i get a survey to reply with the findings. The surperceeded number thing also doesnt make sense because nissan can still order engines with the previous code. So i dont get your point have your nissan rep order a long block for a revup check there inventory i bet you wont be seeing AC7MZ's across the inventory supply.
Get BBB heavily involved and you will get buy, and i reccommend to all revup users to use 0w40 synt oil. Because it seems like the VQ enjoys thicker oil especially when we have the ability to rev higher then a standard VQ.
FYI there are only 2 plants in japan that make the vq35DE for the 350z. This hasnt changed but the defect in the engine has already been resloved from there stand point . And also notice this was only a certin batch of cars. Every VQ35DER does not have oil consumption. This was already proven.
Get BBB heavily involved and you will get buy, and i reccommend to all revup users to use 0w40 synt oil. Because it seems like the VQ enjoys thicker oil especially when we have the ability to rev higher then a standard VQ.
FYI there are only 2 plants in japan that make the vq35DE for the 350z. This hasnt changed but the defect in the engine has already been resloved from there stand point . And also notice this was only a certin batch of cars. Every VQ35DER does not have oil consumption. This was already proven.
10-11-2007, 05:16 AM
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And a dealership cannot turn your engine down for using sythetic oil. At every nissan dealership they usually have dino and synth beleive it not , take for instance at universal nissan they have quaker synth. There are laws stating as long as you go to a certifed place and have your reciets they cannot deny you service at all. I would ask to speak to a manager and then call NNA after that if t hey try to pull that one on you.
10-11-2007, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by markiev37
The question is what specific batch has the defective motors?????....If this is indeed true.
10-11-2007, 04:36 PM
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I have been to two diff dealerships and noone at either acts like they have ever heard about this issue, I call B/S on that one 2. My engine doesnt seem to start burnin until after 1000 miles or so, but then it suddenly drops. I haven't read the entire forum, but what does BBB stand for?
10-11-2007, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by antennahead
Well from what I read, everyone with a the "V2" (as we call it) handbuilt replacement motor is NOT experiencing OC as before. Yes, some minor OC in a few, mainly break-in, but most are fine. If the problem was the original rings, then new rings from a different vendor could solve the issue. Other than your regional rep stating this, nothing else has been said that there is an entirely new engine coming out from Nissan, yet to be released, called the V2. I am not convinced your regional rep is as knowledgable as he should be. More info on this assertion is needed.
Originally Posted by RBlover69
yea, your gonna get alot of different answers my friend but the answer to the consumption has already been realeased see what you dont understand is that nissan isnt trying to make a full tsb on this issue. thats why there isnt an official v2 being release do you know the amount of recalls it would take to have every revup engine or VQ35DER come into a dealership to get 10 thousand dollar installed engines. Not very smart. Your speaking to NNA they will BS you , ...the motor we dubbed the V2 is the engine code AC7MZ or which is essientially the long block entirley.(limted supply and takes time to recieve this isnt the case with a reg revup motor) The vendors havent changed its still nissan that doesnt make any sense. if you look at the part numbers there nissan still. Along with my reciet from getting the V2 i got a follow up call from my specialist which is actually is a separate office from NNA which deals with buy backs and special attention issues with anything NNA cannot solve. They asked me hows the engine and if i get a survey to reply with the findings. The surperceeded number thing also doesnt make sense because nissan can still order engines with the previous code. So i dont get your point have your nissan rep order a long block for a revup check there inventory i bet you wont be seeing AC7MZ's across the inventory supply.
Get BBB heavily involved and you will get buy, and i reccommend to all revup users to use 0w40 synt oil. Because it seems like the VQ enjoys thicker oil especially when we have the ability to rev higher then a standard VQ.
FYI there are only 2 plants in japan that make the vq35DE for the 350z. This hasnt changed but the defect in the engine has already been resloved from there stand point . And also notice this was only a certin batch of cars. Every VQ35DER does not have oil consumption. This was already proven.
Get BBB heavily involved and you will get buy, and i reccommend to all revup users to use 0w40 synt oil. Because it seems like the VQ enjoys thicker oil especially when we have the ability to rev higher then a standard VQ.
FYI there are only 2 plants in japan that make the vq35DE for the 350z. This hasnt changed but the defect in the engine has already been resloved from there stand point . And also notice this was only a certin batch of cars. Every VQ35DER does not have oil consumption. This was already proven.
Well put RBlover69
Originally Posted by RBlover69
And a dealership cannot turn your engine down for using sythetic oil. At every nissan dealership they usually have dino and synth beleive it not , take for instance at universal nissan they have quaker synth. There are laws stating as long as you go to a certifed place and have your reciets they cannot deny you service at all. I would ask to speak to a manager and then call NNA after that if t hey try to pull that one on you.
10-11-2007, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The_man_in_Black
I have been to two diff dealerships and noone at either acts like they have ever heard about this issue, I call B/S on that one 2. My engine doesnt seem to start burnin until after 1000 miles or so, but then it suddenly drops. I haven't read the entire forum, but what does BBB stand for?
Oil does not usually start to break down until 1k. The consumption most of us have seen, is at 1k + miles.
Three options:
Go to another dealer. (which you already have)
Call NNA and open a case.
Go online to the BBB (Better Business Bureau) and open a case.
10-11-2007, 07:29 PM
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agreed, my average oil consumption rate was 1qrt every 1k miles. And i used dino 10w30 5w30 royal purple and 10w30Rp and 10w30 mobile 1
and finally mobile 1 0w40 which is what i am gonna be using from now on.
check out the approval list for this oil
obil 1 0W-40 meets key industry and car builder specifications for:
Mercedes MB 229.5 BMW Longlife 01
Porsche Approval List 2002 VW 502.00/505.00/503.01
GM-LL-A-025 (gasoline) GM-LL-B-025 (diesel)
ACEA A3, B3/B4 API SM/CF
Mobil 1 0W-40 is the most advanced performance synthetic engine oil designed to provide ultimate cleaning power, wear protection and overall performance. Mobil 1 0W-40, European Car Formula (NA) or Protection Formula (EU), exceeds the requirements of the leading industry and car manufacturers' standards required for newer modern gasoline and diesel powered automobile engines. The Mobil 1 Technology is race proven and the choice of NASCAR racing. Mobil 1 0W-40 is perfect for all types of vehicles anywhere in the world and has the performance reserve to protect when conventional engine oils cannot. It is the first choice at the factory for the some of the world's finest performance vehicles: Mercedes-Benz AMG, Porsche, and Aston Martin.
check this spec approval list
Mobil 1 0W-40 meets or exceeds the following industry specifications:
0W-40
API SM/SL/SJ/CF X
ACEA A3/B3 X
A3/B4 X
Mobil 1 0W-40 has the following builder approvals:
0W-40
MB-Approval 229.3 X
MB-Approval 229.5 X
OPEL Long Life Service Fill GM-LL-A-025 X
OPEL Diesel Service Fill GM-LL-B-025 X
BMW LONGLIFE OIL 01 X
VW 502 00 X
VW 505 00 X
PORSCHE Special Oil List X
Mobil 1 0W-40 is recommended for use in applications requiring:
0W-40
SAAB X
and finally mobile 1 0w40 which is what i am gonna be using from now on.
check out the approval list for this oil
obil 1 0W-40 meets key industry and car builder specifications for:
Mercedes MB 229.5 BMW Longlife 01
Porsche Approval List 2002 VW 502.00/505.00/503.01
GM-LL-A-025 (gasoline) GM-LL-B-025 (diesel)
ACEA A3, B3/B4 API SM/CF
Mobil 1 0W-40 is the most advanced performance synthetic engine oil designed to provide ultimate cleaning power, wear protection and overall performance. Mobil 1 0W-40, European Car Formula (NA) or Protection Formula (EU), exceeds the requirements of the leading industry and car manufacturers' standards required for newer modern gasoline and diesel powered automobile engines. The Mobil 1 Technology is race proven and the choice of NASCAR racing. Mobil 1 0W-40 is perfect for all types of vehicles anywhere in the world and has the performance reserve to protect when conventional engine oils cannot. It is the first choice at the factory for the some of the world's finest performance vehicles: Mercedes-Benz AMG, Porsche, and Aston Martin.
check this spec approval list
Mobil 1 0W-40 meets or exceeds the following industry specifications:
0W-40
API SM/SL/SJ/CF X
ACEA A3/B3 X
A3/B4 X
Mobil 1 0W-40 has the following builder approvals:
0W-40
MB-Approval 229.3 X
MB-Approval 229.5 X
OPEL Long Life Service Fill GM-LL-A-025 X
OPEL Diesel Service Fill GM-LL-B-025 X
BMW LONGLIFE OIL 01 X
VW 502 00 X
VW 505 00 X
PORSCHE Special Oil List X
Mobil 1 0W-40 is recommended for use in applications requiring:
0W-40
SAAB X
10-12-2007, 04:56 AM
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wow 1 long a$$ thread. I have an 06 Z and I too am having issues with my car burning up at least 1 quart in between changes. I have brought it to Nissans attention and I am now on the second oil consumption test. The car has had this problem ever since it was purchased new in June of 06. As everyone states the consumption usually occurs at or after 1000 miles after initial oil change. I have used dealer oils only, Dino and there Syn mix. They claim its normal for it to chew up that much oil but I called BS, I am currently dealing with Sheehy Nissan of Manassas and don't seem to be getting anywhere as they claim that they have never heard of it, time to contact Better Business Bureau. 
I am now switched to Royal Purple sooooooooo I will see how it goes but not expecting much difference.
I am now switched to Royal Purple sooooooooo I will see how it goes but not expecting much difference.
10-12-2007, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterRacer
wow 1 long a$$ thread. I have an 06 Z and I too am having issues with my car burning up at least 1 quart in between changes. I have brought it to Nissans attention and I am now on the second oil consumption test. The car has had this problem ever since it was purchased new in June of 06. As everyone states the consumption usually occurs at or after 1000 miles after initial oil change. I have used dealer oils only, Dino and there Syn mix. They claim its normal for it to chew up that much oil but I called BS, I am currently dealing with Sheehy Nissan of Manassas and don't seem to be getting anywhere as they claim that they have never heard of it, time to contact Better Business Bureau.
I am now switched to Royal Purple sooooooooo I will see how it goes but not expecting much difference.
I am now switched to Royal Purple sooooooooo I will see how it goes but not expecting much difference.
I went through the same thing with Tischer of Laurel, MD. Took me 5 months to get my new V2 engine (last month), and that was ONLY after writing a Lemon Law final repair notice, and contacting the BBB. I chose to go the BBB route; if the new motor fails to work properly to fix the problem, I will continue the Lemon Law route with the State's Consumer Affairs office.
-Chris
.... yeah so add me to the list of V2 owners.... too soon to tell regarding consumption though, only 1000 miles on it and it came a quart low from the dealer.
10-12-2007, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterRacer
wow 1 long a$$ thread. I have an 06 Z and I too am having issues with my car burning up at least 1 quart in between changes. I have brought it to Nissans attention and I am now on the second oil consumption test. The car has had this problem ever since it was purchased new in June of 06. As everyone states the consumption usually occurs at or after 1000 miles after initial oil change. I have used dealer oils only, Dino and there Syn mix. They claim its normal for it to chew up that much oil but I called BS, I am currently dealing with Sheehy Nissan of Manassas and don't seem to be getting anywhere as they claim that they have never heard of it, time to contact Better Business Bureau.
I am now switched to Royal Purple sooooooooo I will see how it goes but not expecting much difference.
I am now switched to Royal Purple sooooooooo I will see how it goes but not expecting much difference.
royalpurple was voted one of the worst performing oils in the VQ. So...yea i would stay away i used to use it until i found out how it performed in the VQ via blackstone reports and the might resolute threads .lol
10-12-2007, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RBlover69
royalpurple was voted one of the worst performing oils in the VQ. So...yea i would stay away i used to use it until i found out how it performed in the VQ via blackstone reports and the might resolute threads .lol
lol thats news to me, I just changed out for something else besides dyno oil.
Still using same type 5-30 for this round of testing but I guess I will see! Thanks for the info though, Nissan North America has been contacted and
they have opened upa case regarding my car sippin ar like a lush at a bar
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Originally Posted by doublins
I went through the same thing with Tischer of Laurel, MD. Took me 5 months to get my new V2 engine (last month), and that was ONLY after writing a Lemon Law final repair notice, and contacting the BBB. I chose to go the BBB route; if the new motor fails to work properly to fix the problem, I will continue the Lemon Law route with the State's Consumer Affairs office.
-Chris
.... yeah so add me to the list of V2 owners.... too soon to tell regarding consumption though, only 1000 miles on it and it came a quart low from the dealer.
-Chris
.... yeah so add me to the list of V2 owners.... too soon to tell regarding consumption though, only 1000 miles on it and it came a quart low from the dealer.
Hey dude thanks for the info, this sure helps. What type of documentation did you get from the dealer? Thus far my car is 'about a year and half amost since I purchased it but has been an on going issue. The dealer says its "normal" but I don't agree. All I have thus far is 2 receipts saying oil consumption tests are being performed etc. Any info here helps, and thanks dude!
10-12-2007, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterRacer
Hey dude thanks for the info, this sure helps. What type of documentation did you get from the dealer? Thus far my car is 'about a year and half amost since I purchased it but has been an on going issue. The dealer says its "normal" but I don't agree. All I have thus far is 2 receipts saying oil consumption tests are being performed etc. Any info here helps, and thanks dude!
this is another lengthy thread but well worth its weight in gold! The OP updates the first post, that you can get the jist of the thread, but its worth reading all of it IMO.
Also change dealers...take it to Tysons or Passport Nissan. I think they have free car rentals! Infiniti of Chantilly did all my work, there is a brand new Nissan dealership there also. Right at r28/r50W cant miss it on the left. Chantilly Auto Plex!
Good luck man!
FYI: Full Syn burns faster! lol.
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10-12-2007, 12:54 PM
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Nissan replaced my rev-up with part number 10102-AC7MA, which isn't the V2 talked about here.
When they said Nissan authorized a new motor for me, I asked if it was the newer revision motor (with different rings). They said they believe so. When I went in for it to be installed, I asked for the part number. They gave me 10102-AC7MA, which isn't the V2. I mentioned that this is the same motor I had already, and isn't the revised rings motor. They said they could only do what Nissan authorized them to do. I wasn't very happy about this, because I would have waited for the V2 if they told me it was on back order.
They installed the V1 motor and I got it back today. I will break it in nice and gentle, change the oil, then check for oil consumption. I can't make any judgments on the motor yet, until break-in is over. Don't add me to the V2 list, but to the V1 list.
I do find it kind of odd, to say the least, that they replaced a motor with obvious ring issues (low compression, oil consumption and black tailpipes) with the same problematic model of motor. Wait and see. If there are any issues with this motor, I will ask them to replace it again, and only accept a V2 motor. Hopefully there aren't any issues though.
When they said Nissan authorized a new motor for me, I asked if it was the newer revision motor (with different rings). They said they believe so. When I went in for it to be installed, I asked for the part number. They gave me 10102-AC7MA, which isn't the V2. I mentioned that this is the same motor I had already, and isn't the revised rings motor. They said they could only do what Nissan authorized them to do. I wasn't very happy about this, because I would have waited for the V2 if they told me it was on back order.
They installed the V1 motor and I got it back today. I will break it in nice and gentle, change the oil, then check for oil consumption. I can't make any judgments on the motor yet, until break-in is over. Don't add me to the V2 list, but to the V1 list.
I do find it kind of odd, to say the least, that they replaced a motor with obvious ring issues (low compression, oil consumption and black tailpipes) with the same problematic model of motor. Wait and see. If there are any issues with this motor, I will ask them to replace it again, and only accept a V2 motor. Hopefully there aren't any issues though.
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Originally Posted by joe_blow_xbox
Nissan replaced my rev-up with part number 10102-AC7MA, which isn't the V2 talked about here.
When they said Nissan authorized a new motor for me, I asked if it was the newer revision motor (with different rings). They said they believe so. When I went in for it to be installed, I asked for the part number. They gave me 10102-AC7MA, which isn't the V2. I mentioned that this is the same motor I had already, and isn't the revised rings motor. They said they could only do what Nissan authorized them to do. I wasn't very happy about this, because I would have waited for the V2 if they told me it was on back order.
They installed the V1 motor and I got it back today. I will break it in nice and gentle, change the oil, then check for oil consumption. I can't make any judgments on the motor yet, until break-in is over. Don't add me to the V2 list, but to the V1 list.
I do find it kind of odd, to say the least, that they replaced a motor with obvious ring issues (low compression, oil consumption and black tailpipes) with the same problematic model of motor. Wait and see. If there are any issues with this motor, I will ask them to replace it again, and only accept a V2 motor. Hopefully there aren't any issues though.
When they said Nissan authorized a new motor for me, I asked if it was the newer revision motor (with different rings). They said they believe so. When I went in for it to be installed, I asked for the part number. They gave me 10102-AC7MA, which isn't the V2. I mentioned that this is the same motor I had already, and isn't the revised rings motor. They said they could only do what Nissan authorized them to do. I wasn't very happy about this, because I would have waited for the V2 if they told me it was on back order.
They installed the V1 motor and I got it back today. I will break it in nice and gentle, change the oil, then check for oil consumption. I can't make any judgments on the motor yet, until break-in is over. Don't add me to the V2 list, but to the V1 list.
I do find it kind of odd, to say the least, that they replaced a motor with obvious ring issues (low compression, oil consumption and black tailpipes) with the same problematic model of motor. Wait and see. If there are any issues with this motor, I will ask them to replace it again, and only accept a V2 motor. Hopefully there aren't any issues though.
Yea the issue is not all revups have this issue. So you may make out on that one.
10-12-2007, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RBlover69
Yea the issue is not all revups have this issue. So you may make out on that one.
I know not all rev-ups have this issue, or there would have to be a recall. However, there are many stories on this thread of people still havign OC issues with a replacement V1 motor. Would you prefer a replacement V1 motor or a V2 motor? I know which I prefer.
I know a V1 is better than no motor, but still. We'll see how it goes. I'm curoius how I may make out on a V1 instead of a V2. This I really don't understand.
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Originally Posted by joe_blow_xbox
If I am interpreting this statement correctly, everybody should be getting V1 motors because not all V1 has OC issues. Hmm.
I know not all rev-ups have this issue, or there would have to be a recall. However, there are many stories on this thread of people still havign OC issues with a replacement V1 motor. Would you prefer a replacement V1 motor or a V2 motor? I know which I prefer.
I know a V1 is better than no motor, but still. We'll see how it goes. I'm curoius how I may make out on a V1 instead of a V2. This I really don't understand.
I know not all rev-ups have this issue, or there would have to be a recall. However, there are many stories on this thread of people still havign OC issues with a replacement V1 motor. Would you prefer a replacement V1 motor or a V2 motor? I know which I prefer.
I know a V1 is better than no motor, but still. We'll see how it goes. I'm curoius how I may make out on a V1 instead of a V2. This I really don't understand.