Notices
Forced Induction Turbochargers and Superchargers..Got Boost?

vortech FAQ: read this before asking vortech questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 19, 2013 | 05:27 AM
  #2101  
TunerMax's Avatar
TunerMax
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 270
Likes: 2
From: KW Ontario Canada
Default

Pumps create flow.
Restriction creates pressure.

The pump will push oil out to all areas in the pressurized section, once it's there, the pump will maintain pressure. The only question you need to ask is whether the stock pump will supply enough FLOW to maintain enough oil pressure once you add a component.

You don't ever put an additional oiled component "IN-LINE" you always "T" it in.
Reply
Old May 19, 2013 | 06:27 AM
  #2102  
jrob's Avatar
jrob
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 112
Likes: 1
From: Houston
Default

All of that is correct. What I am inquiring about is placing the cooler inline with the "T'd" oil supply line for the blower. Being that the input and output are on the same line that would technically make the cooler "inline" with the blower. Further you raise another valid question regarding output of the stock oil pump. I'll look up the pressure and flow specs on it.
Reply
Old May 19, 2013 | 07:44 AM
  #2103  
- bigc -'s Avatar
- bigc -
New Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,014
Likes: 6
From: SoCal
Default

Originally Posted by jrob
Yea you are totally missing the question. I know what a sandwich plate is and how blower is typically supplied. Question was, would it work to put the cooler inline with that supply, or would that create too much resistance?
^ Why would you want to do that? He's not missing the question, he's responding to your original question which was how/where is the best place to install a cooler. Route the cooler lines through a sandwich plate as he suggested.

Last edited by - bigc -; May 19, 2013 at 07:51 AM.
Reply
Old May 19, 2013 | 08:06 AM
  #2104  
P&K350Z's Avatar
P&K350Z
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,109
Likes: 0
From: Houston
Default

Originally Posted by jrob
All of that is correct. What I am inquiring about is placing the cooler inline with the "T'd" oil supply line for the blower. Being that the input and output are on the same line that would technically make the cooler "inline" with the blower. Further you raise another valid question regarding output of the stock oil pump. I'll look up the pressure and flow specs on it.
Just to be sure I understood the placement, the cooler would be between the oil supply and the blower? So to only cool the oil going to the blower? Sorry, just making sure I read it correctly.

In terms of where/how to place the cooler, lines out of the sandwich plate and the cooler itself where there is airflow, which is hard on a Z. No sure if you looked at it last time I saw you but I ended up placing mine right on top of the intercooler and I ran an high cfm electrical fan to it. Airflow sucks on the Z...

Last edited by P&K350Z; May 19, 2013 at 08:09 AM.
Reply
Old May 19, 2013 | 08:44 AM
  #2105  
jrob's Avatar
jrob
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 112
Likes: 1
From: Houston
Default

Pedro, yes that is correct. That's what I was thinking of, I was going to pm you again but I know you have the V3. I have not seen your cooler setup specifically but I was definitely gonna look for reference. I guess I will just ask Clint what he thinks of that routing or what he would reccomend. I am thinking of going with a filter relocation kit. Seems to offer a lot more options as far as oil routing, and possibly feeding the blower filtered oil as it would not get that just being Td off the sending unit.
Reply
Old May 19, 2013 | 10:02 AM
  #2106  
jrob's Avatar
jrob
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 112
Likes: 1
From: Houston
Default

Good info on this topic here:

https://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-drivetrain/425715-adding-oil-cooler-can-it-be-added-between-engine-and-vortech-sandwhich-plate.html

Basically the best way is to keep them seperate, with the oil cooler supplied with the sandwich plate, and not try to bring the blower into the mix. I was just trying to eliminate some hoses, and possibly simplfy things.
Reply
Old May 19, 2013 | 11:14 AM
  #2107  
TunerMax's Avatar
TunerMax
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 270
Likes: 2
From: KW Ontario Canada
Default

That's What I'm saying, never install an extra component in line, just don't. You "T" it in. Do not put it inline. That would be a very bad idea
Reply
Old May 19, 2013 | 05:16 PM
  #2108  
binder's Avatar
binder
New Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,457
Likes: 7
From: terre haute, IN; STL, MO
Default

The supply line is 4an. That is very tiny and will do no good going through an oil cooler.

The minimum lines you should run for an oil cooler is 8an so roughly double the size of what the supply line to the blower is. You need to get a plate adapter designed for oil coolers and the large lines they take. The vortech supply line will be left as is per instructions of vortech.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2013 | 12:53 AM
  #2109  
BowWizzel's Avatar
BowWizzel
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
Default

So after reading the FAQ area & skimming the rest of the pages just want to get a few things clarified. First off I plan on getting the V3 tuner, 600cc DW injectors, walbro pump, ngk plugs & uprev.

Now as my goal is around 380 no fuel return system is needed right, although recommended? Am I missing anything else thats needed?
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2013 | 04:12 AM
  #2110  
4SHIZZIL's Avatar
4SHIZZIL
New Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,410
Likes: 9
From: NOVA, Richmond, DC, MD, St.L
Default

The goal of 380 is the only change. Get supporting mods now to save installing fees. Nimo Thermostat, oil cooler, larger intercooler from Treadstone.

Do it now, you will upgrade from 380, prepare now, it only makes it more safe ( if that's possible). Lol

Larger FMIC is best/recommended, get the 1000hp, I think it's a V12 model number, Nig as greddy but crash bar remains, custom brackets required. (weld) not expensive.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 02:04 PM
  #2111  
BEBO'S ZEE's Avatar
BEBO'S ZEE
Registered User
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 987
Likes: 1
From: West Coast
Default

Looks like the bolt and key holding the cog pulley came off and now the cog pulley is jammed on the jackshaft. Ive tried and cant get it to come off.
Name:  securedownload-6_zpscd23b3ba.jpeg
Views: 318
Size:  55.0 KB
Name:  securedownload-7_zps03a37207.jpeg
Views: 368
Size:  66.6 KB

Im going to pick up a jackshaft, cog pulley, and the bolt/washer/key. I got the jackshaft already, going to order the cog pulley, but I cant seem to find the bolt that holds the cog pulley in. Does anyone know where I can get that bolt/washer/key set up (for the cog pulley)? I was thinking it might be the same one as the ones holding the ribbed pulley up front and I can find those, but Im not sure.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 03:09 PM
  #2112  
OldManZ350's Avatar
OldManZ350
New Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,429
Likes: 230
From: Florida
Default

go to http://www.superchargersonline.com

they will have what you need.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 11:18 PM
  #2113  
BEBO'S ZEE's Avatar
BEBO'S ZEE
Registered User
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 987
Likes: 1
From: West Coast
Default

Originally Posted by OldManZ350
go to http://www.superchargersonline.com

they will have what you need.
yeah I had looked on there before and wasn't really sure what part it was. I emailed them and they helped me out, so I ordered what I needed from them.

Last edited by BEBO'S ZEE; Aug 15, 2013 at 12:21 AM.
Reply
Old Nov 23, 2013 | 01:03 PM
  #2114  
beezbo's Avatar
beezbo
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Default

This came in last night. Tuner kit is the last pieces to be installed! I decided to pull the trigger on the Vortech supercharger because of this awesome write up by sentry65. Wish me luck
Attached Thumbnails vortech FAQ: read this before asking vortech questions-20131122_173613.jpg  
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2014 | 05:36 AM
  #2115  
aboodi's Avatar
aboodi
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 137
Likes: 15
From: davie
Default

wow, i have more than 3 years in vortech experience and i got more in this thread,

Thanks for all the great infos..

am i need to change the oil feed to the supercharge for more oil flow with 2.87 pulley?
what happened with me before i rebuilt my v2 vortech 3 time.

this is my maxima in middle east. VQ30de with meth/water and 10 psi by V2 vortech i made 330whp


im in USA now and i bought 350z revup .. i just bought vortech v2 . and i'm thinking to install it.

Last edited by aboodi; Jan 17, 2014 at 05:37 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2014 | 01:58 PM
  #2116  
str8dum1's Avatar
str8dum1
New Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 8,807
Likes: 7
From: raleigh-wood NC
Default

do not change the oil feed
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2014 | 07:55 AM
  #2117  
2004Black350z's Avatar
2004Black350z
Exhaust Whore
Premier Member
iTrader: (37)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 10,097
Likes: 17
From: NC
Default

http://www.gtmotorsports.com/product...cat=258&page=8

This the gtm set up people are using and best simplest thing for belt slip?

Sold my lq9 and next is v3 vortech. Just read all 43 pages and my eyes and head hurts. Also I was looking for a used kit cheap enough that may need a rebuild so I can send to vortech and let them rebuild it plus add si pulley.

Anyone know where to get a good deal on a new tuner kit?
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2014 | 08:07 AM
  #2118  
meanz's Avatar
meanz
New Member
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,197
Likes: 57
From: greenville, sc
Default

I used the single pulley from gtm with the 2.87 wheel when I was stock block. Made 418 and never had a problem with it slipping. Now we are not using a pulley there, we have the pulleys moved around. Also upgraded all the pullies from a local shop in South Carolina off of CINs recommendation. Didn't have any problems seeing 17+ psi.
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2014 | 01:28 PM
  #2119  
crd00's Avatar
crd00
New Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 112
Likes: 3
From: canada
Default

Ive been researching for a while now on the vortech supecharger while saving the funds and this is the plan I have came up with. Let me know if this is solid or if I should add anything else. As of now I am fine with the 3.33 pulley that comes with the kit. I have no plans of going beyond 400whp in the future.

The project car- 2006 350z vq350de engine
Supporting mods already purchased- Uprev osiris full tuner, berk high flow cats, greddy evo2 exhaust and nismo intake

Remaining parts to purchase:
- Vortech v3i tuner kit(because I already have the osiris tuner)
- walbro 255 fuel pump(I have the write up to mod the existing unit)
- 440cc injectors(no plans on going over 400whp)
- one step colder plugs(as noted in this faq)
- Access to a dyno(the owner will transport my car for me to his shop)

Does the plan look solid? Come on guru's help me out!

I am doing the install myself on a limited budget so I want to be guided in the right direction with this one. I'm basically a "click" away from purchasing this kit as its something Ive always wanted. Thanks guys!

Last edited by crd00; Feb 28, 2014 at 01:34 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2014 | 02:39 PM
  #2120  
OldManZ350's Avatar
OldManZ350
New Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,429
Likes: 230
From: Florida
Default

That's all you need.

Keep in mind that the stock kit with a 3.33 will only net about 320-330rwhp.

If you need more help, you are welcome to PM me….

TimRod

Originally Posted by crd00
Ive been researching for a while now on the vortech supecharger while saving the funds and this is the plan I have came up with. Let me know if this is solid or if I should add anything else. As of now I am fine with the 3.33 pulley that comes with the kit. I have no plans of going beyond 400whp in the future.

The project car- 2006 350z vq350de engine
Supporting mods already purchased- Uprev osiris full tuner, berk high flow cats, greddy evo2 exhaust and nismo intake

Remaining parts to purchase:
- Vortech v3i tuner kit(because I already have the osiris tuner)
- walbro 255 fuel pump(I have the write up to mod the existing unit)
- 440cc injectors(no plans on going over 400whp)
- one step colder plugs(as noted in this faq)
- Access to a dyno(the owner will transport my car for me to his shop)

Does the plan look solid? Come on guru's help me out!

I am doing the install myself on a limited budget so I want to be guided in the right direction with this one. I'm basically a "click" away from purchasing this kit as its something Ive always wanted. Thanks guys!
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:18 PM.