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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 06:50 AM
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like above, front air mount filter is the easiest mod to make air filter changes a breeze.
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by binder
now that i'm reading it I want to make the statement that I'm not trying to argue with you (although it appears like that) but just point out that it is sufficient for proper function and cost effective. Cost effective drives consumers.

That being said, there will probably be 10 threads that will soon pop up with people asking about the safety of vortech only having 1 intercooler bracket based on the idiots that troll these forums nowadays. lol

All good man, same from my end. I could've got away with just 1 but that would have been pushin it because my blower isn't connected, and I have to drive it for now. Which means the main inlet (cold) side isn't fully assembled.

In hindsight, if anyone with just one bracket does have to drive with any of the Cold side disconnected due to blower being out for repair or what-not, they'll be driving with much less support. This would be something that is easy to overlook if such a situation were to ever come up after the fact.

But I do agree, once fully assembled it's quite secure.
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Calinismo350z
it is way too complicated on a 350z, you are really gonna damage the filter if you don't take the blower off.. good thing for me is way easier now..!!! =)
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^^ good call!

I'm going to put a 90* off the blower and send my Filter down into the 'fender well'.
Also using a different filter, the Stock one is so tiny, I can't imagine it flows as much air as that blower potentially pulls. (G35 though). Wish I could do it the same way you have it.
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 02:04 PM
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Do you custom made that or is there a kits that I can buy? That looks nice and more air flow too!
Also the air filter after pull it out, I can just wash it, dry it, and oil it right?


Originally Posted by Calinismo350z
it is way too complicated on a 350z, you are really gonna damage the filter if you don't take the blower off.. good thing for me is way easier now..!!! =)
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 01:37 AM
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So recently got my hands on a vortech v3 sci tuner kit. I got down on reading the 40 pages on the vortech FAQ page, crank case vent mod thread, catch can threads, countless fuel system threads, and a whole bunch of build threads to compare to. I can say that I am experiencing brain overload, but it feels good to have learned so much.

Anyway, I still have two questions that I couldn't particularly find the answer to.
1) With a cosworth plenum, Will I be able to use the AAM Spec complete fuel return kit + fuel rails and DW600CC Injectors without using the Injectedperformance spacer to make clearance?

2) I have an ARC Catch can that currently is routed according to the instructions received from ARC. I have seen several different setups on this forum regarding catch cans and FI, but none particularly for the ARC v2 can.

Anyone have any input on these questions? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 09:32 AM
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no spacer for the DW injectors

doesnt matter if its an ARC catch can or a 12$ ebay one. They all plumb in the same way.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
no spacer for the DW injectors

doesnt matter if its an ARC catch can or a 12$ ebay one. They all plumb in the same way.
Even with the aftermarket AAM Spec fuel rail?

I see. I was thinking it was different since the arc can has three ports. I am assuming Top passenger side to Plenum, Lower passenger side to Passenger PCV, and driver side connected to the vortech cone. The driver side pcv vents to atmosphere. Am I correct?
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 02:16 AM
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In for responses, I'm scratching my head a bit about how to hook mine up, only because I'm questioning how much vacuum is on the filter end of the system, if its excessive (more than -30)
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 10:43 AM
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just look how every other platform runs their catch cans (ie supras etc). 1 line from each valve cover to a vented catch can.

You dont need a vacuum source.

so a 3 port catch can would be 1 line from each valve cover and put a breather on the 3rd port.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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I was referring to the remaining CCV, which under normal N/A operation pulls fresh air into the crankcase, and under high load vents Crankcase pressure into the pre-TB pipe.

Under boost this vent, if still connected, would now bring boost into the crankcase.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerMax
I was referring to the remaining CCV, which under normal N/A operation pulls fresh air into the crankcase, and under high load vents Crankcase pressure into the pre-TB pipe.

Under boost this vent, if still connected, would now bring boost into the crankcase.
It's not connected. You block it off. It won't boost the crankcase.

It's tried and true. If it didn't work then the hundreds of 4 digit power platforms and drag cars that do it this way would be failing.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 05:41 AM
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You literally just block off the left side crankcase vent? No doubt eh.
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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you do exactly as i posted. 1 hose from each valve cover to the catch can. The passenger side from a drilled out PCV port and the drivers side from the rear of the valve cover

That takes up 2 ports on the catch can. Then you put a breather on the 3rd port or just leave it open.

That vents both valve covers as uses all the connections on the catch can.

Just like in this pic (but obviously with 2 valve covers for the V engine)
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TunerMax
^^ good call!

I'm going to put a 90* off the blower and send my Filter down into the 'fender well'.
Also using a different filter, the Stock one is so tiny, I can't imagine it flows as much air as that blower potentially pulls. (G35 though). Wish I could do it the same way you have it.
sorry guys I was busy for a while my Z is getting paint and I've been up and down like crazy. I was gonna do it the same way you want to jut next to the fender but I didn't wanted to worry about rainy days since the filter can get water. there's actually a forum in here about this custom made filter only for the z tho. I was gonna make a step by step on how to do it but didn't had time to take pictures.. =\
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
just look how every other platform runs their catch cans (ie supras etc). 1 line from each valve cover to a vented catch can.

You dont need a vacuum source.

so a 3 port catch can would be 1 line from each valve cover and put a breather on the 3rd port.
alright completely got that concept.

Now that leaves the plenum port?
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 11:43 AM
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cap it off
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerMax
You literally just block off the left side crankcase vent? No doubt eh.
read below quotes. You don't block off any valve covers.

Originally Posted by KushZEN
alright completely got that concept.

Now that leaves the plenum port?
Originally Posted by str8dum1
cap it off
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:36 PM
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Sorry Jeff the way you wrote it in reponse to my post was what confused me, you're suggesting the same thing str8dum1 is, yes? Run both VC vents to the catch can, and do or don't connect a return to the IM.

I would take from that:

Vent catch can to atmosphere if you have either drilled out/modded or completely removed the PCV
Hook Catch can 'vent' back to IM if you haven't touched the PCV

Does that sound logical?

Not trying to re-invent the wheel here, sorry just trying to get a grasp on it in more detail, when viewing the stock setup it seems illogical to vent the Valve covers together, as this is supposed to be a circulating system.



Also obviously the PCV valve is intended to function 'better' at low load then it does at high load. This is primarily due to vacuum on the opposing end of the PCV at low load. Removing this Vacuum line (return to the IM) would basically stop the PCV from working unless you modified it

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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:36 PM
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Thanks, I'm gonna start looking into it, just not sure about the size or clearance

Originally Posted by Calinismo350z
sorry guys I was busy for a while my Z is getting paint and I've been up and down like crazy. I was gonna do it the same way you want to jut next to the fender but I didn't wanted to worry about rainy days since the filter can get water. there's actually a forum in here about this custom made filter only for the z tho. I was gonna make a step by step on how to do it but didn't had time to take pictures.. =\
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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Tied into Drivers Side valve cover and Pass Side, did not modify PCV. Pluged line to Plenum. Works great with 17psi boost.
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