Another GTM Install
09-12-2011, 04:01 AM
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No problem Midz350. I asked about the other pipes but I don't think they are available. I haven't seen them on a car yet and when I asked Sam about it, I tend to recall that he said they are not ready yet?? Going from memory several weeks ago so don't quote me on that. I want to look into aftermarket strut tower bars. Does anyone know if there are any that will fit this kit?
09-12-2011, 05:06 PM
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setup looks nice.
I'm confused on GTM's setup though. Why would you wrap the charge pipes all the way down and around the front of the car when they could have just come out of the top of the intercooler and through the core-support then made the pre-turbo intake pipes wrap down and around since it really doesn't matter how long the non-boosted section of pipe is but it makes a good bit of flow difference having so many bends and turns on the post turbo charge pipes.
Just seems silly to have all that extra piping in there when it could have been simplified.
I'm confused on GTM's setup though. Why would you wrap the charge pipes all the way down and around the front of the car when they could have just come out of the top of the intercooler and through the core-support then made the pre-turbo intake pipes wrap down and around since it really doesn't matter how long the non-boosted section of pipe is but it makes a good bit of flow difference having so many bends and turns on the post turbo charge pipes.
Just seems silly to have all that extra piping in there when it could have been simplified.
09-12-2011, 05:39 PM
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setup looks nice.
I'm confused on GTM's setup though. Why would you wrap the charge pipes all the way down and around the front of the car when they could have just come out of the top of the intercooler and through the core-support then made the pre-turbo intake pipes wrap down and around since it really doesn't matter how long the non-boosted section of pipe is but it makes a good bit of flow difference having so many bends and turns on the post turbo charge pipes.
Just seems silly to have all that extra piping in there when it could have been simplified.
I'm confused on GTM's setup though. Why would you wrap the charge pipes all the way down and around the front of the car when they could have just come out of the top of the intercooler and through the core-support then made the pre-turbo intake pipes wrap down and around since it really doesn't matter how long the non-boosted section of pipe is but it makes a good bit of flow difference having so many bends and turns on the post turbo charge pipes.
Just seems silly to have all that extra piping in there when it could have been simplified.
09-12-2011, 05:41 PM
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Ace, you got any pictures of the relo?
thought the same thing with mine, plus if u dont live in a weather friendly state your fender guards dont fit back on that well with the charge piping there. i relocated my driver side intake into the engine bay just by the core support (rains alot here) trying to figure some where to move my passenger side intake but its kinda crammed over there : /
09-13-2011, 02:34 PM
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Mine from Boosted performance goes straight from the top of the intercooler through the core support for a straight pipe to the throttle body. The straighter the pipe the better the flow.
09-13-2011, 02:37 PM
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also, it takes A LOT of water to hydrolock an engine through a filter. The whole filter would have to be submerged. Think about it, people use water injection which is upwards of 500cc (so basically 1/2 a liter) per minute through their engines so a small amount of water won't produce damage.
I have my filter sitting right on my cross member which is about 3" off the ground (lowered car). I live in st louis and we get some insane spring storms here (tornado alley). We had a flash flood that washed away cars. I drive my car in the rain and have been for over a year with no issues. Same with my old honda. My CAI was about 4" off the ground and i drove it for 6 years rain or shine without a single issue. If the filter gets wet it will just suck air in through the dry portion. It's already covered in filter oil anyways which is hydrophilic (water repelling). The whole filter would have to be submerged to suck water and then it would have to be a lot of water to cause damage since 500cc per minute is what people use to cool engines through injection.
I have my filter sitting right on my cross member which is about 3" off the ground (lowered car). I live in st louis and we get some insane spring storms here (tornado alley). We had a flash flood that washed away cars. I drive my car in the rain and have been for over a year with no issues. Same with my old honda. My CAI was about 4" off the ground and i drove it for 6 years rain or shine without a single issue. If the filter gets wet it will just suck air in through the dry portion. It's already covered in filter oil anyways which is hydrophilic (water repelling). The whole filter would have to be submerged to suck water and then it would have to be a lot of water to cause damage since 500cc per minute is what people use to cool engines through injection.
09-13-2011, 02:59 PM
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also, it takes A LOT of water to hydrolock an engine through a filter. The whole filter would have to be submerged. Think about it, people use water injection which is upwards of 500cc (so basically 1/2 a liter) per minute through their engines so a small amount of water won't produce damage.
I have my filter sitting right on my cross member which is about 3" off the ground (lowered car). I live in st louis and we get some insane spring storms here (tornado alley). We had a flash flood that washed away cars. I drive my car in the rain and have been for over a year with no issues. Same with my old honda. My CAI was about 4" off the ground and i drove it for 6 years rain or shine without a single issue. If the filter gets wet it will just suck air in through the dry portion. It's already covered in filter oil anyways which is hydrophilic (water repelling). The whole filter would have to be submerged to suck water and then it would have to be a lot of water to cause damage since 500cc per minute is what people use to cool engines through injection.
I have my filter sitting right on my cross member which is about 3" off the ground (lowered car). I live in st louis and we get some insane spring storms here (tornado alley). We had a flash flood that washed away cars. I drive my car in the rain and have been for over a year with no issues. Same with my old honda. My CAI was about 4" off the ground and i drove it for 6 years rain or shine without a single issue. If the filter gets wet it will just suck air in through the dry portion. It's already covered in filter oil anyways which is hydrophilic (water repelling). The whole filter would have to be submerged to suck water and then it would have to be a lot of water to cause damage since 500cc per minute is what people use to cool engines through injection.
09-13-2011, 03:05 PM
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who boosts in the rain anyways?
09-13-2011, 05:45 PM
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No problem Midz350. I asked about the other pipes but I don't think they are available. I haven't seen them on a car yet and when I asked Sam about it, I tend to recall that he said they are not ready yet?? Going from memory several weeks ago so don't quote me on that. I want to look into aftermarket strut tower bars. Does anyone know if there are any that will fit this kit?
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09-14-2011, 06:38 PM
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you can still have the air filter down in the front bumper without coming out the core support. It would actually be shorter piping since the turbo is already low. The pipe would just come forward then turn out and down to the fender then that leaves open the core support holes so the top intercooler pipes could go right through them for a direct route to the throttle bodies.
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Mine from Boosted performance goes straight from the top of the intercooler through the core support for a straight pipe to the throttle body. The straighter the pipe the better the flow.
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Mine from Boosted performance goes straight from the top of the intercooler through the core support for a straight pipe to the throttle body. The straighter the pipe the better the flow.
UPDATE: Posted latest photo...
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