350Zzzz

"How come not ONE single person ever mentioned ATI lol."

Max,

I am not certain what your point was when you made the above statement?

And, what exactly are we suppose to be "skeptical" about?

Happy Holidays!

G

jcv

I think Max's, and maybe EJ, suggesting there maybe a rat in the woodpile.

Black LS1 T/A

You must be talking about a different planet for LS1Tech.
I just did a search on "ATI". I got:

"Showing results 1 to 25 of 500"

Perhaps you need to learn how to use a forum...

MaxHax (12SecZ) never posted a SINGLE thread in the Forced Induction section out of his total 45 posts over the last two years.

REAL LS1 enthusiast there.

I can't recall ANY guy asking questions about supercharging their car and not getting reams of advice, suggestions AND differing recommendations about various manufacturers.

I see those who are trying to drag the discussion down have no interest in figuring out how to save themselves from melting down their engines. I don't know anyone personally from ATI. But, they have treated me well as a customer... even honoring replacement or giving me discounts on parts out of warranty. Someone is a happy customer so they MUST be a plant from ATI. That's PITIFUL!

Sorry some of you are so cynical you can't take some well needed advice. Perhaps some of the less belligerent individuals will take what has been said, take responsibility for tuning their setup and come whip my LS1 butt...

... maybe...

ADIOS, Amigos

12SecZ

edited after a polite PM.

I call truce on the drama.

Merry Christmas to all!

12SecZ

edited for Christmas.

Peas On Earth!

12SecZ

Here is a search you overlooked.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/search.php?searchid=60774

jcv

Black LS1 T/A, you brought some good thoughts to the forum, advice is really useful to those with SC or contemplating it. By the way, the same search with Vortech brought up 500 hits. Ya'll are an equal opportunity forum.

elektrik_juggernaut

Here's an even better search, this one shows exactly how Black LS1 T/A feels about imports:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showth...ighlight=ricer

If you don't feel like clicking on the link, what he said was this,in his own forums:

So much for that noble altruistic desire to help fellow racers

Black LS1 T/A

Dude... you are SO disingenuous. Don't you dare pull out "talking trash" crap as a REAL disparage against anyone. Domestics talk trash about imports, imports talk trash about domestics... heck, Camaros and Firebirds tralk trash about Rustangs.. ahem.. I mean Mustangs... and vice versa.

If THAT is the best you can pull out to show my info to guys here about tuning is bogus, then you are walking on shaky ground. Heck, if I line up beside a Camaro or another T/A, my Black Gal is gonna get her props. I'll talk trash to YOU if you dare line up against me!

This'll be the smoke you see, except it'll be smoke in your eyes while you squint to see where I went.



You get the point? Talkin' smack and talkin' shop are two different things.

I didn't come over here talking ricer this and ricer that. But, come out on my country road and try to lay down the smack... you'll have so many people egging you, trying to get you edgy and nervous, you better know how to drive that thing if you line up. Yeah, go to a kill story on a forum and pull some more of my lines... 300ZX's get it, Mustangs get it, Camaros get it, Big Block Chevy's get it...

And I've had MINE handed to me... once or twice.

Oh, man! Get a GRIP will ya!

While we're here talking irrelevant trash, we could be discussing similarities between cars and how we tune them. Do you know what Long Term Fuel Trims are and are they even used by your car's PCM to help manage A/F?... what's their impact on WOT? Does your computer use a PE (Performance Enhancement)/RPM table to control fuel delivery under WOT? If not, what method DOES it use? What similar mods to ours throw your A/F or timing out of whack? What methods have you we used to overcome lack of fuel for higher boost situations and what might or does work for you? What would you adjust first when you discover you have excess knock; lower timing or increase fueling? Both? What types of headers/exhaust enhances a boosted setup? Does it matter?

Hey, all these things are trivial beside the need to skank on someone who came over here trying to get you to think OUTSIDE the box. SOME of my diatribe about Vortech was to get some mentally agile people to see how immature that can be, similar to trashing Procharger. It's no different, dude. But, hey... instead of learning how to USE a supercharger safely, keep mouthing and whining about it instead of DOING something about it.

Either get your car tuned or take the SC off. Take it or leave it. But, I GUARANTEE you will be sorry if you leave it.

LSs1Power

This is getting weird...... Someone is trying to share his knowledge and he is getting attacked by people who really need to learn . Black LS1 T/A, man ur wasting ur time here...... Some people are soo defensive when they discover that they don't know anything about cars. They respect u if u had more posts not more knowledge. Its really sad...Sad.

Black LS1 T/A

I didn't get your PM, but not a prob. I don't harbor hard feelings with anyone who is cool enough to step back from a scene.

Happy holidays.

Black LS1 T/A

Dont worry.. at this rate, I'm SURE to get my post count up!

Black LS1 T/A

I talked with another guy who came up with a system to retard timng at planned RPMs while making the spark hotter to help keep power up (I think he was doing something with the dwell). At the same time he was introducing his device to us on the LS1 forums, LS1-Edit came out and we were able to manipulate many other parameters including timing.

If you guys have knock issues even at A/F ratios of 11.x:1, you need to do something about your timing or increase your octane. If I were you I'd seek alternatives to adjust my timing. Sacrificing a little timing to increase boost will buy you more power than vice versa.

TIFWIW.

ZedZed

If only we had something like LS1-edit..... at this point to make changes to our ECU, we have to rip it out of the car, send it to away to get programmed.

LSs1Power

How about E-Manage?

elektrik_juggernaut

LOL......did i strike a nerve there buddy?......i can almost picture the smoke coming out of your nostrils while you were typing your response.

PS-you wouldn't be so angry if it weren't the truth

Black LS1 T/A

Who says I'm angry? Just bewildered...

elektrik_juggernaut

bewildered about what?.......what exactly are you telling us that we didn't already find out on our own?.....yes, there is too much timing at the top.......that's why my Procharger kit does not work properly on my totally stock car.......what is it that you plan on saying that will make ATI not responsible for a kit that they produced?

GaryK

I don't know why this has turned into a thread about who said what about "ricers". Maybe I'm out of the loop, but since when does the term "ricer" include any import car? I've always used it (and I use it a lot), as have most people I know, as a term describing most anybody's car with ridiculous mods that only serve to give the image of performance rather than actually increasing performance. I have respect for any car, import or domestic, that actually has improved performance. I'd wager that the LS1 guys feel the same way. Don't take things out of context guys.

It is a shame that people on this board don't even seem to want help.


Damn I wish I had "VQ35-Edit"....LOL

elektrik_juggernaut

please quit trying to put spin on this........i've called the tech line multiple times......i've exchanged emails with the tech dept. multiple times......i've contacted my original vendor as ATI suggested........went through the whole "vendor-relayed messages from ATI" thing with them........i've asked for help........so far all i've gotten from them is words