Did you ever find out if that blower was fixable? Got some ideas on what I'm doing next. Might be staying with a blower setup.

 

I almost asked if you thought about going a YSI build.

 

Well right now it's between a ysi setup or selling it all and going with Hal's custom turbo setup..

 

Well less psi and more power with room to grow or be one of the very few YSI 350Zs??

 

Or go turbo and never have to deal with belts and limited power ever again

 

Nitrous doesn't understand what limits are.

The limit as nitrous approaches 1 is infinity bruh, or rather it's HOLE IN BLOCK/PISTON

 

Nitrous has a limit, besides engine failure, you can only stuff so much nitrous into a combustion chamber. But there are sooooo many turbo sizes to pick what you need and for the Z33 platform, it is so much simpler to upgrade to a turbo rather than try and push a super charger past 600

 

Not really. There are TONS of cars that run vortech and spray outside our community. Besides that, Colombo and mean have proven that 600whp is pretty do able with a basically off the shelf supercharger. 550whp is also do able with non TI blowers (old man 350z on a STOCK engine). You really don't ever need more than a 100 shot which will act like quite a bit more than a 100 with a supercharger... On a 550whp vortech 100 shot in the higher gears is probably going to give you close if not past 700whp... And with e85 being a norm now, you don't have detonation limits like you do 91 or 93. If anything, you just need to make sure you don't super cool the chamber, which depending on how you set up the car isn't very hard to do.

There are plenty of ways to skin a cat. You may say turbo is better more reliable horsepower, but I say how often do you really need 700 horsepower on a street car? If it's every time you get in the car, every day that you flog it for 25 minutes straight then yeah maybe nitrous isn't for you, but I'd say if your driving a car that hard that often on the street, maybe you're just a nutcase and you shouldn't go on the street, period

Furthermore, I paid 3700$ for a vortech ti tuner kit. Let's say it makes mid 500whp, like 560whp. To get that 560whp tuner kit with a turbo, I'm going to either have to wring the life out of a tnetics knock off kit, or spend $5400+ for a bp kit. Powerlab etc etc don't really exist and greddy is a lot more than that. Soho is also pricey. Now on e85 yeah a bp could go to 900+ as we've seen, but I'm also confident that this TI on e85 will break 600whp, perhaps even with stock pulleys. I spend another lets say 600-800 on a nice nitrous setup with a 75 shot and I'm still well under 5400$. The tuning options are basically the same for those hp levels (haltech which is fine for setting up nitrous and speed density), need similar fuel pumps and injectors, and tune should be basically the same, if not easier for the s/c. The biggest drawback will be belt issues on the s/c and lower torque. On the street, I can totally live with the more linear powerband, lower torque, and less midrange. A bit of spray will more than help with that. Belts although annoying, are not very difficult to change. And there are a lot of other communities making good power on 6 rib setups, most of them are using coated pullies which nobody on here has tried. Termi cobras around here are pretty popular, and people swear by pulley coatings.
Turbos have more power potential, and at the highest hp levels are superior in cost, efficiency, and power delivery. But I think a lot of people discount superchargers in this community. Myself in the past included. They're not the bomb diggity best but for primarily street use, which most of our cars are face it, I think it's a completely valid setup. They're also super easy to work on compared to a lot of turbo setups

 

^take this to another thread. The ricer here aint got time for turbos or nitrous. He loves him belts and SC.

 

I agree with most of what you put. I did not know you meant put nitrous ontop of the supercharger, I was joking with what I said kinda literally.

In my opinion, unless you are going to a gear drive setup over belt and running a big Procharger, I would go Turbo if I were him for the money.

Why is it so unreasonable to have a 800hp daily? I would love to have that, I just don't have the money because Mopars are expensive... Watch any of the 1320 or Mexican racing league videos, they push way more than that on the street.

 

I don't think 800 is crazy for a daily on some cars but on a 350z, it doesn't seem to be too reliable. It's totally possible, though. I've seen enough of the 1320 thing to realize our cars will never run what they should... They don't have enough grip, and they are really cost in-efficient compared to 2jz's or 5.4 or a 5.0 or an ls whatever the hell they stick in the engine bay. I mean, yeah you could do carillo rods, darton sleeves, stroker, single turbo e85 with head work and make tons of power, slap on a 480le or whatever it is, add in some slicks and e85 and just annihilate, but the price tag on that setup is going to make your head spin.
Compared to a fox body with a 4.8 big single turbo, and built turbo trans that was put together for under 20 grand... You'll probably still loose. And then with those vettes etc out there... It's just a loosing battle. There are 5.0's with twin turbo'ed stock engines stock tranny+converters, running in the 9's almost weighing in the 4,000lb range. I mean we just can't compete in the big hp game without spending tons on parts and labor. Or even a 240sx with a stock 2jz and big turbo. It's silly.

 

Shut up Chris! I have a plan, just waiting on vortech to see what they say about the blower.

 

Restarted we are on the same page, can a 350Z compete with the big boys, yup, will they whoop you at a fraction of the investment, probably.

But think about how much fun a 350Z with a straight axle, boosted V8 with a suspension built with grip in mind would be

 

Yeah that would be a pretty sick car no doubt! Would be a monster if it all came together right

 

For sure!!! Just lacks some wheel base to help keep the front tires down

 

For your vortech...the hungry little blower that could.



I like your plan for BP.

 

Eh the 350z has some decent wheelbase. It's better than people give it credit for. 104" is not bad at all, c6 vette is almost 106" and the 2012 mustang is 107" so it's solid.

 

It is that long? A 1970 nova is 110, so I guess you are right. Now just give me $75k to build it.

Sorry Meanz, I thread jacked the crap out of this thread

 

remember Hal had a custom 1 off tube radiator support and prolly no AC.

Def not a bolt on kit.

a BP kit with a 6266 will make 700whp with good streetability.

 

So apparently he was running an 8288 at one point. But yeah it's all custom front end, a radiator cocked over to the right side, with wigums clamps everywhere. Meanz has a good pic of it.