BUDGET Turbo Project- Started
Good luck. Been slow and working on my motorcycle because bitches like it better.
Bypassed and deleted stock idler pulley
Took off custom ac tentsioner I made when I bought the car and bought an oem one and installed
Took of aftermarket underdrive pulley and installed a stock one.
Made a custom Type-rs to type-h bov plate and installed a Turbo XS RFL replica.
Ordered and installed spyder aftermarket headlights and 55w 5000k hids with slim ballasts (not pertinent to build, but I couldnt drive at night before on old headlights)
Ordered a new belkin db9 to usb cable since all my chinese ones that I had do not work and I don't feel like looking for the correct drivers.
Waiting for that to come in
Bypassed and deleted stock idler pulley
Took off custom ac tentsioner I made when I bought the car and bought an oem one and installed
Took of aftermarket underdrive pulley and installed a stock one.
Made a custom Type-rs to type-h bov plate and installed a Turbo XS RFL replica.
Ordered and installed spyder aftermarket headlights and 55w 5000k hids with slim ballasts (not pertinent to build, but I couldnt drive at night before on old headlights)
Ordered a new belkin db9 to usb cable since all my chinese ones that I had do not work and I don't feel like looking for the correct drivers.
Waiting for that to come in
I'm curious to see how this holds up for you. You're the second person I know whose done this kit and both of you have said it does require a lot of fab work but that it's not that bad. I may look into this in the future. We'll see.
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Because each of these cars changed every 3 years. The DE platform was 3 years so that's a narrow margin of cars when the v8 cars are essentially the same bodies for a decade or more.
On top of that the total number for our cars ever sold is still less than just 1 year of any mullet machine out there on the road. More cars=more people=more market for parts
Companies don't invest money in a tiny market. There especially isn't money when everyone comes to the forum and wants a 1000$ turbo kit. So if there are 100,000 350z and they sell each of them a turbo kit then they take in 100,000$ now probably 50% of that is overhead so they made a whopping $50,000 in a year. Next year 0$ since everyone has the kit. Not a good business model.
On top of that the total number for our cars ever sold is still less than just 1 year of any mullet machine out there on the road. More cars=more people=more market for parts
Companies don't invest money in a tiny market. There especially isn't money when everyone comes to the forum and wants a 1000$ turbo kit. So if there are 100,000 350z and they sell each of them a turbo kit then they take in 100,000$ now probably 50% of that is overhead so they made a whopping $50,000 in a year. Next year 0$ since everyone has the kit. Not a good business model.
Last edited by nway2deepagain; May 8, 2013 at 06:26 PM.
Only thing I didnt cheap out on was the tune
Got db9 to usb belkin cable and it works. My 2.5mm to serial from my LC-1 Doesn't seem to be working, but I don't have the one that innovative sells, instead I have a cheap one off ebay. Went ahead and ordered the cable from the innovative because I cant connect the lc-1 to logworks, UTI or any other utec logger. When that comes in hopefully i'll get some real updates, videos, quarter mile runs
Subd....interested to see how this works. I thought of getting this kit just for the piping and replace the turbo, bov, wastegate and interfooler or get custom pipes. If not bp kit if I don't find a used kit when I'm ready to buy.
I have to take some new videos, but I finally got the car out of my garage and on the highway. Running above 4k AFR is decent. Under 4k at WOT Im about 10-11, so I need to lean those out. Max boost is 6.4psi according to UTEC. Updates to come
Side note. I'm only boosting about 2.6psi in first gear and I can get 6.4 in 3-4th gear. Anything think by me running the stock exhaust would restrict the turbo from fully spooling in lower gears since there is less load?
If so, I'm thinking e-cutout or I'm just buying a cheap 3" single exhaust
If so, I'm thinking e-cutout or I'm just buying a cheap 3" single exhaust
Last edited by iideadeyeii; May 28, 2013 at 09:59 AM.
turbos require load to spool. Between the low load and very short period of time you are in 1st gear there will be very little time to actually produce boost. This is normal with regards to any turbo.
plus to elaborate the ebay turbos require alot more force to spool due to poor manufacturing specifications so it wont build as much as well. stock exhaust will also hurt that some but overall its just a combination of things causing it.
Last edited by jerryd87; May 28, 2013 at 10:21 AM.
Ok. I maybe just grab a cheap exhaust after I inspect the car in june, so I'm good for a year, though I did legally pass emission with no cats and my injen exhuast the last two years.
I thought the turbo was pulling oil from the feed(wouldn't have surprised me), but I found out my drain flange was not tight enough and fixed it.
Also I had the wrong wastegate spring in. Was hitting almost 10lbs of boost before my ignition cut kicked in(boost cut was set at 9 for protection) Changed the spring 4 times until I got it to under 7. Boost cut is now set at 8psi just in casee, but the utec cut works and it works very well.
I thought the turbo was pulling oil from the feed(wouldn't have surprised me), but I found out my drain flange was not tight enough and fixed it.
Also I had the wrong wastegate spring in. Was hitting almost 10lbs of boost before my ignition cut kicked in(boost cut was set at 9 for protection) Changed the spring 4 times until I got it to under 7. Boost cut is now set at 8psi just in casee, but the utec cut works and it works very well.
You can just pull the muffler off and test it.
I run stock rear muffler and I have a cutout right off my turbo. With the cutout closed My car gets stuck around 10psi due to heavy back pressure. I open it up and bam, 26 psi no problem. With low power (350hp) I think the stock exhaust won't be too terribly restrictive but I would put that on the upgrade list soon. At the very least take the resonator out of the middle section so it's just a rear muffler.
I run stock rear muffler and I have a cutout right off my turbo. With the cutout closed My car gets stuck around 10psi due to heavy back pressure. I open it up and bam, 26 psi no problem. With low power (350hp) I think the stock exhaust won't be too terribly restrictive but I would put that on the upgrade list soon. At the very least take the resonator out of the middle section so it's just a rear muffler.
That might be an option. How does it sound without the resonator?
I had an exhaust that cost as much as my turbo kit before, so if it is going to sound raspy, I'll just stick to a cutout
I had an exhaust that cost as much as my turbo kit before, so if it is going to sound raspy, I'll just stick to a cutout
Last edited by iideadeyeii; May 29, 2013 at 12:30 PM.
just to give you an idea of how big a difference things can be and the advantages of the quality turbos, did a data log today and i hit a max of 17 psi boost in first gear, however the difference between me and binder is me using the 66 exhaust wheel and a quick spool setup, it also only hit that for a second at 7k, dont see 1 psi boost till 3800 though vs on the highway in higher gears ive seen 5 psi as low at 2500. so what your seeing on your setup is probably on par with what it should be with that turbo
just to give you an idea of how big a difference things can be and the advantages of the quality turbos, did a data log today and i hit a max of 17 psi boost in first gear, however the difference between me and binder is me using the 66 exhaust wheel and a quick spool setup, it also only hit that for a second at 7k, dont see 1 psi boost till 3800 though vs on the highway in higher gears ive seen 5 psi as low at 2500. so what your seeing on your setup is probably on par with what it should be with that turbo
Yep, the larger turbo that is more efficient will give you more boost and going to 7k will also give more time for that turbo to spool. Shifting down at 5k or something on the street in first gear would give almost no time for the turbo to build pressure.