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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SLIdEwAyZ25
The second gen kinetix has PROVEN power gains.

Don't talk if you don't know what your talking about.
Follow your own advice or link to a 3rd party independent dyno (not a vendor trying to push a product)! Fake dynos that go to 7k+ rpms on a STOCK 03 Z from Kinetix don't count. The one dyno I recall is from Z1 and it was 10 whp, but of course they also sell the product. 3rd party independent dynos seem to be lacking. I wonder why?

Increasing the runner diameter and using true bell mouth velocity stacks looks good. I don't know how you'll get around the tight bend at the neck - too bad there's no room for symmetry without reducing airflow... Runner airflow imbalance could be compensated for by changing the angle of the bell mouths, but you'd need to do some modeling using a MAF sensor and experiment - probably too much trouble for one off pieces.

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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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SG already did quite a bit of volume vs. airflow vs. TB size research.

http://www.sg-motorsport.com/development.html


Choke points appear to be a combination of Plenum volume and TB size. Unless those two choke points are both addressed - nothing dramatic increases.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SLIdEwAyZ25
The second gen kinetix has PROVEN power gains.

Don't talk if you don't know what your talking about.
I'm sorry - I guess I missed the great cry among N/A users announcing that fact.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SLIdEwAyZ25
The second gen kinetix has PROVEN power gains.

Don't talk if you don't know what your talking about.





Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
I'm sorry - I guess I missed the great cry among N/A users announcing that fact.

Werd.

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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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im liking where you are going with this! think it would be great with 90mm ls2 throttle body

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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SLIdEwAyZ25
The second gen kinetix has PROVEN power gains.
Don't talk if you don't know what your talking about.




Link Please

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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 03:33 AM
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Guys, let's not hijack this thread into a Kinetix debate.

Here's a couple of threads on the subject...

https://my350z.com/forum/intake-exha...-manifold.html
https://my350z.com/forum/intake-exha...-manifold.html
https://my350z.com/forum/intake-exha...ty-intake.html
https://my350z.com/forum/intake-exha...placement.html
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SLIdEwAyZ25
The second gen kinetix has PROVEN power gains.

Don't talk if you don't know what your talking about.
Tard noobs strike again... ugh take your advice moron.

Ok correct me if I'm wrong but I see what Citris pointed out with the 2 choke points... I may be either a complete moron or I'm just pointing out the obvious but why hasn't anyone made an intake mani where the throttle body is relocated and throttle body pipe to the front of the intake many similar to the LS V8's. I've seen Vipers and Vettes that have large short piping. Idk... just a thought.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 06:02 AM
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this is the idea i had for this a while back with an ls1 throttle body!

whatiwanttodo.jpg?t=1288712828

only thing is relocating the oil fill. any one done this? maybe this is somehting that OP can think of if his project is not to far along

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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
That's exactly what I was thinking. Didn't the Kinetix v5 actually lose power on N/A engines?

OK, now I'm interested.

LOL. His plenum looks easy to do direct port nitrous!
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Flo-ridaZ33
Ok correct me if I'm wrong but I see what Citris pointed out with the 2 choke points... I may be either a complete moron or I'm just pointing out the obvious but why hasn't anyone made an intake mani where the throttle body is relocated and throttle body pipe to the front of the intake many similar to the LS V8's. I've seen Vipers and Vettes that have large short piping. Idk... just a thought.
^ Dont think it would make a difference. Plenum volume still would not change assuming same size was used, and you wouldnt be making the TB any larger.

Same would occur where as now the front cylinders struggle for air, the rear cylinders would then struggle and a spacer would have same effect for the rears instead of fronts.

You would, however, prob get air in more efficiently through less pipe and bends in intake tubing having the TB in the front of plenum (instead of forcing the air to go through more pipe and what is essentially a 180 degree turn feeding into the plenum.)

I would venture to guess maybe Nissan might not have done this because of not enough benefit realized for something like this that would throw hood clearance to chit and require a much higher hood near the front, thereby prob throwing off the outside lines to the Z. But i have no idea
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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^I can definitely see your point there... Idk it just seems like it's pretty congested in the position it is.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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I'll be using a phenolic spacer on this manifold also. Probably do a before and after dyno with that as well.

Manifold was not completed this past weekend. Things came up.

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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisNelson
I'll be using a phenolic spacer on this manifold also. Probably do a before and after dyno with that as well.

Manifold was not completed this past weekend. Things came up.
Cool, keep us updated.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Flo-ridaZ33
Tard noobs strike again... ugh take your advice moron.

Ok correct me if I'm wrong but I see what Citris pointed out with the 2 choke points... I may be either a complete moron or I'm just pointing out the obvious but why hasn't anyone made an intake mani where the throttle body is relocated and throttle body pipe to the front of the intake many similar to the LS V8's. I've seen Vipers and Vettes that have large short piping. Idk... just a thought.
You mean like the CJM manifold? Requires cutting into the radiator support and making lots of adjustments.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rcdash
You mean like the CJM manifold? Requires cutting into the radiator support and making lots of adjustments.
Yes exactly like that... I see what your saying about the adjustments though.
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 05:41 AM
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Any updates on this?
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