We (my wife and I) won our case in arbitration several weeks ago but we sent it back to the arbitrator for correction twice trying to get NADA retail for our trade. We got the final decision on Friday and we won on all counts (purchase price, NADA retail on trade, interest, taxes, title, etc.). Having the same problem trying to find a replacement though. I was thinking M3 but don't like the 55K+ price tag and am now leaning toward a 20 year old 930 and no car payment. I've always wanted one and there are no old Porsches, only new owners or some crap like that. I used to work on them for a living when I was a kid so I know what I am in for. Anyway I am flip flopping around so much I have no idea where I'll end up. I've gone from M3 to double cab pick-up truck to hemi powered station wagon to antique Porsche. If I was smart, I'd buy a $2,000 beater and use the money for something really important like a down payment on a 40 ft sloop. Unfortunately I am not that smart.

 

I too have won my LL case from NNA (total cost, car, extended service agreement, title, etc, less a bit of depreciation for milage). We have agreed on the amount of payback and are now going through with the payment process. it's a shame that such a good looking car has a flaw in it which NNA doesn't seem to have a way to fix.
Good luck to all of you.
Lew

 

Did you handle the entire LL process by yourself? Or did you use a lawyer etc?? I am in Florida also. But I am at disadvante as I know NOTHING about cars, so we need representation/help in the process.

 

I went on the web and looked up lemon law. I wound up using a firm by the name of Krohn and Moss. Their is a URL about 20 pages back that references legal firms. They were very good and probably have an office in Fla. The process had been on-going on since last October.

 

Here's a page that I put together listing various Lemon Law attorneys and their states.

http://www.nissantireproblems.com/attorneys.html

 

Thanks for the help. Krohn and Moss was great to work with

 

Well, with very little difficulty, I settled my LL claim with Nissan before having to take any action with arbitration. I sent my demand letters and the Nissan rep was very courteous and receptive. He simply asked me to have my problem confirmed by the dealership and he would be happy to buy back the vehicle. The dealership confirmed the problem, and I negotiated a settlement amount with the rep. I got the purchase price of the car X the mileage, divided by 120,000 + tax, title and license fees. It ended up being about a thousand or so under KBB retail and above KBB private party value. I may have been able to negotiate more, but frankly, the rep was so nice and easy to work with and I felt the price really was fair (I did enjoy owning and driving the car), that I didn't press very hard. I have already returned the car to the dealer and purchased a new Infinity FX. My bank note on the Z is to be paid off today, and I have to run out to the dealership to trade my Z title for the equity check on the Z. I'll miss her, though I won't miss the crappy tire problem.

By the way, has anyone driven the FX? In a lot of ways, it is sportier than my track Z. The exhaust definitely sounds better, believe it or not, and it is very zippy in the low gears. The audio system is unbelievable and the seats are soooo much more comfortable on my bad back. I'm having clear bra, tint and hands free phone installed today. Got black this time ... sweet!

I'll be happy to answer most questions, but I probably won't be around this board much anymore. See you and good luck to all.

 

I love my Z and hope my tires hold up but if I got a buyback I think a BMW M3 coupe would be real sweet. I already have a 2004 Toyota V8 AWD 4runner as an SUV. But I know a guy that owned the FX Infinity when they first came out and he loved it. I think the fact that it uses the same 3.5 liter engine as the Z is a plus and I would not get the V8 FX since the 3.5 engine is one of the best as listed on the Wards 10 best engine list every year.

 

not to get too far off-topic, but what about a honda s2000 or rx8. those are the two closest cars to the z/g in terms of price, performance, and styling (which are the three strengths of these kinds of cars).

 

I think I see what you are saying... S2000 or RX8

Ouch..

Think I'll stay on my ride...

Cheers Amy -

 

well i agree, i would rather have a z w/out feathering than a s2k or rx8. but if you can't (or won't) have a z. the s2k is a great car and the rx8 is a pretty nice car too.

 

Ditto Amy.

Love your plate, mine is OBZEZZN, So Cal too.

 

My tire feathering/road noise problems are re-surfacing. OEM Bridgetstone Potentza RE040/18 front tires were replaced @ ~10,500mi. Feathering and road noise had been occuring for some time at that point. Now have ~18,500mi and the symptoms are starting to come back. Will probably get them replaced at exactly 21,000mi, and then figure out what I am going to do with the car.

 

What about the infinity G35. You can't any closer than that to the Z.

 

I contacted the Dalton Law firm for my case in Dallas and they seem to think I still have a good case at 27k miles. I'm on my third set but would probably have been 4 if Nissan hadn't dragged their heels so much in the beginning. I'll post the updates.

 

For those who have been able to get Nissan to buy back the car, can you give more information?

I filed a BBB dispute in California. It would be helpful to see the different arguments that people prepared, etc.

Here are some things that would be helpful:

1.) History of the car related to tire problems: include mileage, problem, and what was done to fix it,

2.) The specific arguments that were used during the arbitration case, and

3.) What evidence you brought (service records, printed tsb's, records of conversations you have had, etc.

This would be really helpful to myself and anyone else who wants to purse Lemon Law or BBB judgements against Nissan.

I love the car, I plan to get a new after Nissan has to buy back the current car. I just can't see dealing with the noise the tires are making over the life of the car.

Thanks,

Mark.

 

Mark:
Personally, I went the Lemon Law route, not the BBB. I hired an attorney to represent me. There are no attorney's fees if you lose and when you settle the case Nissan must pay the attorney.
Lemon Law is very cut and dry, and an attorney will not take the case unless they feel they can win.....
There was little work for me to do, it just takes time. I settled two weeks ago and started the LL last October.
Please leave me a personal message in the 350Z mailbox if you want to talk further.
Lew

 

Depending on your situation, it may be faster to go through the BBB arbitration process. You probably have to do more work on your own, but if you go in prepared it should be an easy win. That is what I've decided to do. My arbitration hearing is supposed to be at the end of this month or early next month.

 

Gary:
Have you ever heard of the old quote " the person that represents himself has ...... for a client". Be careful, it costs you nothing by going to an attorney

 

Actually no, I'm not familiar with that one. I think I know what you're saying though. I'm not recommending everyone to go with the arbitration process, where you represent yourself. In fact, if someone doesn't have a technical understanding of the problem, as well as the ability to explain it in layman's terms to the arbitrator, then they probably won't stand much chance of winning. The Nissan rep will be able to bull**** their way to a win.

Remember, the BBB arbitration is an informal process, so the normal caveats of legal representation don't necessarily apply. You can even present evidence in support of your arguments that you might not be able to use in court. Also, not all LL attorney's are willing to do the "pay only if you win" thing. I personally haven't found any yet that will do that, but I did somewhat limit my search to the local area. I started out wanting to go straight to filing suit with a LL attorney representing me, but I now think I have a better chance and less risk with the arbitration process. Maybe if there were some better attorney's in my area, my decision would have been different, but living in a "small town" (and surrounded by the same) I don't have many choices.