I called nna again today and left a message with the director, colett who stated to me last time I spoke to her that she was in charge of the districts in north america. Told her that her call to my dealer did not do crap. I dont think I will get anything out of it.

 

Nissantireproblems.com

 

J-man and all,

I am not an advocate of hearding a bunch of people into court but if Nissan is not standing behind thier product then that's an issue.

I posted another message relating to this issue regarding my car being taken back under the Lemon Law (in California).

J-man if you want some free legal advice contact my attorney Micheal Saunders at 888-805-3666. I have to say that he is very good at what he does and can tell you very quickly if it's a lemonable issue or not.

side note:
If anyone lives in San Diego and wants to swap out my brand new front rubber for thier old rubber I am willing to give it to you. Just need your old rubber mounted (or swap complete front wheels and tires 17" stock). I am turning my car in shortly and getting a completely brand new one with new tires so you can have my old ones.

Just email me at tiggertigger_@hotmail.com

If you want a brief history on my case go to message https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....93#post1480493
to see what has happened with mine.

 

I too have an 04 Touring Roadster that has this feathering problem.

At 11,000 miles, The first visit to the NISSAN Dealer I was told "The front right was damaged and that I needed to take it to a body shop and have the frame alignment done"

I've read the TSB and have a copy of it too. The front Tires were replaced and the front end alignment done by a tire dealer not NISSAN at my expense.

At 16,500 the tires look ok but the roar is coming back now. I've taken it do a different Nissan dealer and they are performing a 4 wheel alignment. The are charging me for the alignment and stated the TSB is only applies to the 03 models.

I'm taking up the issue with NISSAN.

 

I heard that Nissan was putting on a new version of the 040 tires. Something like 040a. SUpposedly the tread is a little different. Anybody know the story. This is the tire they are supposed to replace my fronts with Monday. Now my third set! 13.5K

 

Isn't that how Ford fixed the Explorer?

 

This new version of the tire was put on my Z by NNA. The visual differeice is the outer tread blocks are tied together for about 50% of the grove that seperated the outer blocks on earlier versions

I do not have sufficient miles on this new version to know if there is an improvement in the wear or not.

 

I have about 5k with the new tread design. So far so good. Don't see/hear any feathering so far........

 

I am trying to buy an 05 Touring. This is what the dealer says. 1) The alignment problem stems from transporters winching the cars down on their trucks too tightly. 2) The dealership claims to have spent 64K on new alignment equipment. The car cannot be aligned at the standard tire store, even if it's a very good store. 3) Different people at the dealership have told me different things. One says they will align the car before it's sold; another said they will align it after 1000 miles. They claim this fixes the problem. I spoke to two salesman who claimed to own 05s. They swore they had no problems, although neither had more than 7500 miles. My question is a simple one. Do I believe them? Do I buy the car or look for something else?

 

I guess it all depends on your dealership. My dealership couldn't even get my car on their alignment machine because they said it was too low(with the stock front lip spoiler) so they sent me to the local Goodyear dealer to replace the tires and do the alignment. I have an 04 with 11,000 miles and the tire roar was louder than my Borla cat back exhaust. It's good now, but for how long? I'll keep you posted.

 

I have a 2005 with 4500 and no evidence of tire feathering. Could be to early to tell though. I hope i never have the issue though. The best car i have ever had. The most fun to drive. I would buy the car anyways, but that is just me.

 

The answer is simple. It's got an alignment problem or it doesn't either way it's under warrantee and if you like the car get one. If you are planning on changing the wheels and tires etc... right after you buy it then you do so at your own risk. I have n 03 and am going to get an 05 next month when mine comes in. Mine is now pulling to the right farley hard (not dangerous but noticeably). I am still getting another one.

I have heard story after story about what "is", "might be", "could be", "should be", "isn't", "couldn't be", "shouldn't be", "can't be", or "won't be" the problem. From it can't be adjusted with the factory parts you need "these" aftermarket ones to it's resolved in the 04 (which we all know it wasn't). Now "it's resolved in the 05" which it probably isn't. You're never gonna get a straight answer and that is why you buy new. WARANTEE and LEMON LAW. It protects us from all the blah blah blah. I am not trying to promote ambulance chasing and ignorant buyers but if they (NNA) can't figure it out or tell us the truth then the law will protect us.

 

This is the best explaination of the tire feathering that I have seen.

I have heard story after story about what "is", "might be", "could be", "should be", "isn't", "couldn't be", "shouldn't be", "can't be", or "won't be" the problem. From it can't be adjusted with the factory parts you need "these" aftermarket ones to it's resolved in the 04 (which we all know it wasn't). Now "it's resolved in the 05" which it probably isn't. You're never gonna get a straight answer and that is why you buy new. WARANTEE and LEMON LAW. It protects us from all the blah blah blah. I am not trying to promote ambulance chasing and ignorant buyers but if they (NNA) can't figure it out or tell us the truth then the law will protect us.[/QUOTE]

 

I need alignment specs. I am getting my 03 new tires and alignment today. I want to check there figures against what they should be. Can anyone post there alignment specs so that I have something to go by?

thanks,
calvin

 

I replaced the OEM tires of my 09/2003 ZR with Avon ZZ3s and tire roar is gone, for 4000+ mls now. Hopefully forever.

It's the tires, not the suspension.

 

2003 Enthusiest

Stock setup, RE040s -> 7 k miles feathering

Hotchkis TVS Stage 1 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 , 04 TSDB alignmt specs - > 6 k miles no feathering

 

The tsb can be located by searching "tire noise." It includes the specs and diagnostic procedures.

 

I guess whenever I have bought a new car in the past, one of my motivations--and certainly not the only motivation by any means--is that I am buying new and therefore acquiring a certain peace of mind, an assurance that I would be having fewer problems with the new car than I am having with my old car. With the 350Z that does not seem to be the case, and whatever its appeal and merits, I am almost convinced I should be looking at something else--the new BMW 3, something. That's not a decision I WANT to reach, but if I want a project car to work on I have several older cars in my garage now.

I have looked at many Z sites, and read hundreds of postings, maybe thousands, and so far I cannot find a single example of someone saying "I have gone 15K on these tires and I have not had a problem." I can't find anyone who is saying "I have changed the tires, the alignment, the whole suspension, whatever, and I have definitely fixed the problem. I have gone 12-15K without any issues." Everyone seems to be saying "I have done X, and so far so good." And they generally have gone under 8000 miles with this solution. Is there anyone out there who knows they have fixed the problem and has the mileage to prove it? I don't expect to get 40,000 out of a set of tires, but I don't want to have to replace tires more frequently than once a year.

I will say I did talk to one person who claimed to have 17,000 absolutely trouble free miles on a 2003 Z. He, however, was a Nissan salesman, so I'm not sure that counts.

 

I've heard quite a few people say they've either never had feathering, or changed something and the feathering hadn't reoccured.

 

I have talked to a few Z owners (co-workers) and most of them don't think they have any tire problems. The tire roar comes on slowly and most of the people don't even realize how noisy thir cars have become. In every case when I check their tires in the parking lot, they ARE feathering.