mw9

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Same here, don't want to read through 1300 posts. What are the benefits of getting this over sending it to technosqure for a flash. I have test pipes, y pipe headers, pulleys, pop charger, plenum spacer, flywheel and plan on cams next year. I also want to up my rev limiter and have the throttle control adjusted to wide open. thanks for the time and help. I have an 03, what gains are people getting with this/similar setups.

PunKidd

Yes, this is kind of a bummer. The stock ECU doesn't even have a MAP sensor let alone a way to handle a WG.
I can understand your hesitation due to this point. We are working on gaining a better understanding of the factory knock control and you can bet that we'll add more functionality to the code (like we do for map switching and RTT), but as it is now, I can see how this could be a bit un-nerving.
There's no reason that you can't tune the MAP based system even though the ECU is measuring load via the MAF. There will be some variations w/ temperature and altitude changes since the ECU will do a better job of compensating, but the injection kit won't compensate as well (if at all depending on the kit). I’ve tuned multiple Subys w/ Aquamist 3D kits and they were all MAF based. Subys have a MAP sensor, but it is ONLY used for boost control.
My only suggestion here would be to install an aftermarket gauge like the Innovate LC-1 so that you can monitor it until you feel better about how well the ECU is hitting it's targets. I ALWAYS recommend an AFR gauge on FI applications anyway and I have yet to build an FI project car that didn’t have one. It’s just good to know if something has gone totally haywire and caused a lean condition (like a malfunction in the fuel system or MAF sensor).
I can usually provide a K Fuel multiplier that, in combination w/ the correct latency, is enough to get the engine started and idling so it can be tuned. The only reason that we don't give out FI base maps is the liability. It's just too easy for something to be slightly different or to go wrong, like a hardware malfunction, and we don't want anyone coming back to us and saying "Hey, your base tune popped my motor!".
I usually don't have any trouble getting a car up and running and drivable on a mild tune within a couple of hours, but I was heavily involved in the engineering and development of the system, so obviously that doesn't say much about what the typical noob to our system is going to be able to accomplish.

athenG

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Thanks for the explanation... I know having a standalone wibeband is a must in my opinion (That is why I have 2...lol) for FI cars. My concern is that I would like to be able to log using my wideband. My eyes doesnt move that fast so it is really hard to pin point what A/F I'm getting in certain boost and rpm...

PunKidd

I hear ya, I was just thinking that if you tuned w/ the stock WB then you were able to verify that it was hitting the targets w/ the gauge you may gain a little more faith in the stock sensor.
We do plan to add logging capability for Innovate, AEM, and other popular after market wide bands that have serial communication, but that's down the road. We plan to add all the logging functionality to the ROM editor so that the system is streamlined so we'll likely add external wide band and sensor logging at the same time.
Jared@uprev.com

PunKidd

The biggest advantages in my mind are:
- No down time since you do the flash yourself.
- Map switching between 5 alternate maps via your cruse switches.
- Ability to update your tune (again w/o downtime).
- The inclusion of Cipher for data logging and diagnostics which also allows you to get eTunes based off of the logs (of course you have an '03, so you'll need an aftermarket wideband O2 sensor since you don't have them from the factory like the newer Zs).
- And of course end user tuning if that's something that you're interested in.
- There are probably things I’m forgetting, but those are the glaring ones off the top of my head.

We really don't state HP numbers because the very SO much from vehicle to vehicle and dyno to dyno, but it's rare that we make anything less than 8-10 WHP throughout the entire RPM range. In some cases the gains get as high as 30WHP, but like I said, it varies a LOT from car to car and dyno to dyno.

Jared@uprev.com

06CPV35

Okay...read a lot and been wanting this for awhile, but a couple questions (hopefully not redundant)

Can I buy only Cipher from you now and then later buy the Standard or Tuner Osiris separately later?

If so, will the OBDII cable still work when I later purchase Osiris?

Little short on $$ for now but in desperate need of a Cipher diagnosis, then tune to follow. Wish Cipher allowed you to clear exhaust cam vtc learning.

Thanx...

UpRev

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Yes, all our systems are upgradeable. You can start with Cipher and then purchase the Osiris Flash Service later. Just make sure to notate that you already own Cipher.

06CPV35

Excellent.
So in other words I buy Cipher from you with your cable $300
Later (for example) I now want Osirus Standard Tune $700.
But already have Cipher from you with your cable, so Standard Osirus tune will only cost me $400 not $700, correct?

If so, how do I do that on your web site. There is no option to purchase Osirus separately without Cipher already included in pckg price.

Sorry for being a pain....just want clarity before I order on your site.

UpRev

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Correct, it would be a $400 upgrade.

Currently the way our website works you would purchase Osiris Flash Service for $400 and notate that you are upgrading from Cipher. We would send out the appropriate software CD and you would get 3 free eTunes.

OCG35

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If you want a little road trip, there's this:
http://g35driver.com/forums/socal-me...t-nov-8th.html

UpRev will be there and Osiris products will be raffled off and purchase pricing discounted 10%... phone orders (day of only) are available too - but I don’t know if the shipping costs would negate the cost savings.

It looks to be shaping up as a worthwhile event even for out-of-towners to attend

06CPV35

Ok..I see how that works.
Thank you for the response. Ordering Cipher today

06CPV35

OH SNAP!! That's an awesome day planned that I can't make down to SoCal Thanks for the 411 though

350Zenophile

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The 8th is right about when I was planning to order Osiris...who and what number do I call for the discount? Or is that just for Cali folk?

OCG35

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did you read the first post in the link I attached?... bottom of that post has a link to Shawn's site.

350Zenophile

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Yes...just didn't know if I was supposed to call him or UPREV directly. Any disadvantage to buying from a vendor instead of direct? Would I still work with UPREV on my mail-in tunes or with Shawn?

OCG35

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depends on what you buy... if you get the flash tune you would be working with UpRev with their support... if you bought the end user tuner (some ppl refer to as Pro Tuner) - you would be pretty much on your own, but Shawn might assist with Q & A... if you bought the package that includes dyno tune through Shawn, your support would be through him...

His contact info is on his website... I suggest calling him and work through what options are available and what would work for you.

The discount is being given by Shawn not UpRev, so you would be working with him (for the event packages and pricing)…

twitch579

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Got my car dyno'ed after the base flash and im very happy with the results. The car feels like a different car all around. It pulls so much smoother and faster. After 6k Rpm its a monster!

https://my350z.com/forum/engine-driv...ipppeeeee.html

Dyno Results there.

350Zenophile

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Thanks OCG35! roger all that.

OCG35

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I should add… UpRev is being VERY supportive at this event! Not only are they donating great products for raffle, they are appearing in person to answer questions and support the VQ community!

It just dawned on me when reading the updated posts, that the way I phrased it could be misconstrued as downplaying UpRev (or at least not giving them the credit deserved).

Thanks Jared and all @ UpRev for your continued support and a great product – Osiris!

UpRev

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The event was awesome. It was good to meet everyone. Hopefully I'll have a blog post up about it before too long with some pics. Shawns dyno and bay setup worked out great, I lost count of the number of cars that they did dyno pulls with that day but it was HUGE.

Thanks to everyone that showed up!