HR Owners..Regret?
Then how come a base 350z per Nissan weights weighs less than a 370z? Educate yourself and read this thread. https://my350z.com/forum/2009-370z/4...-expected.html
How am I making the HR better? HOW? I am pointing out the differences between both cars and saying the 370z is not faster than the 350z it is equal and it's up to the driver. You keep spouting off saying the 370z is faster. Are you going to be a 370z owner and now you will be owning the newest and latest Z and your pride is hurt that it's heavier than what actually Nissan said?
It's pretty sad that my 3325 lb NISMO still weighs less than the 370z.
How am I making the HR better? HOW? I am pointing out the differences between both cars and saying the 370z is not faster than the 350z it is equal and it's up to the driver. You keep spouting off saying the 370z is faster. Are you going to be a 370z owner and now you will be owning the newest and latest Z and your pride is hurt that it's heavier than what actually Nissan said?
It's pretty sad that my 3325 lb NISMO still weighs less than the 370z.
Only the desperate and the foolish will try to take magazine times for one car and use real owners times for another. It's clear others (guess that once again knocks out your "everyone" argument) see the flaw in this comparison but you're hell bent on using it to make the HR look better.
Your so called "research" involves nothing more quoting a Car and Driver article. Sorry, that's not research, it's just quoting. I can quote the article too. I can also quote Nissan's website which lists the 370z's weight lower than the 08 350z. The whole point of me talking about the Z32 is that multiple articles listed different weights.
If you're "done" then so be it. You weren't bringing anything new to the table anyway except the same flawed logic.
Your so called "research" involves nothing more quoting a Car and Driver article. Sorry, that's not research, it's just quoting. I can quote the article too. I can also quote Nissan's website which lists the 370z's weight lower than the 08 350z. The whole point of me talking about the Z32 is that multiple articles listed different weights.
If you're "done" then so be it. You weren't bringing anything new to the table anyway except the same flawed logic.
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Wow all the noobs come out of the wood work.
Tell me this. How can it be faster when:
It weighs more
It makes less TQ than the 350z
It only makes 10 more rwhp than the 350z
It hasn't shown it yet in magazine times, it only showed a faster 0-60 due to the fact of better tires (4.7) 370z vs (4.9) 350Z.
Let's hope it is faster, but per all the specs we show it doesn't look like it's possible.
Tell me this. How can it be faster when:
It weighs more
It makes less TQ than the 350z
It only makes 10 more rwhp than the 350z
It hasn't shown it yet in magazine times, it only showed a faster 0-60 due to the fact of better tires (4.7) 370z vs (4.9) 350Z.
Let's hope it is faster, but per all the specs we show it doesn't look like it's possible.
? Does it make your mag test 1/4 vs real world 1/4 comparison any more relevant? You are comparing mag test vs real world, "the fact is the 370z is NOT faster than the 350z HR" just doesnt make since considering there isnt many if any real world 370 1/4 examples to compare apples vs apples(real world vs real wordl). For example why not compare 370z mag test 1/4 mile vs 350z hr mag test 1/4 mile ?? Maybe because the 370 have posted faster times and thats not what you are arguing? The quickest z that motor trend have ever tested is the 370z and nismo 350z was second 2/10ths slower and 2 mph slower. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html
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Then how come a base 350z per Nissan weights weighs less than a 370z? Educate yourself and read this thread. https://my350z.com/forum/2009-370z/4...-expected.html
How am I making the HR better? HOW? I am pointing out the differences between both cars and saying the 370z is not faster than the 350z it is equal and it's up to the driver. You keep spouting off saying the 370z is faster. Are you going to be a 370z owner and now you will be owning the newest and latest Z and your pride is hurt that it's heavier than what actually Nissan said?
It's pretty sad that my 3325 lb NISMO still weighs less than the 370z.
How am I making the HR better? HOW? I am pointing out the differences between both cars and saying the 370z is not faster than the 350z it is equal and it's up to the driver. You keep spouting off saying the 370z is faster. Are you going to be a 370z owner and now you will be owning the newest and latest Z and your pride is hurt that it's heavier than what actually Nissan said?
It's pretty sad that my 3325 lb NISMO still weighs less than the 370z.
I've already read that thread when it was first posted and it in no-way solidifies your point. That thread only quoted the C&D article as you did here but you can see there are people in the thread that have already stated that different mags have listed different weights. Also noted in that thread is the fact that if you do a model comparison (I've said this for the 5th time now) on Nissan's website between the 08 and 09Z, the 09Z is lighter. I do like this post though.
i could careless, i hope its all that and a bag of chips. 
The only sad part of anything is the fact that your foolish and desperate attemps to make the HR seem better by trying to compare real world times vs mag times and saying "fact, the 370z is not faster than a HR Z" are ludicrous at best.
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Why not compare magazine times to magazine times? On average 370 is gonna be quicker. Might as well compare 03-06 magazine times to the 370 and wait for a redesign and see how that fairs against the HRs
If it makes you happy then at worst the car could accelerate just as fast as a HR. BIG DEAL. Let's see what the turn out is mod for mod, owner 1/4 mile times and Nismo 350 and Nismo 370. Why is acceleration such a big deal to you? Is that all you care about? Did you buy the Nismo 350 for it's acceleration? I know you didn't.
The 370 is braking and handling better than ever. That's what it's about.. These cars weren't built for straight line acceleration.
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You guys are awesome - thanks for making this thread fun to read! 
As an aside, I do think acceleration IS pretty important. Time slips and most pro races don't seem to showcase braking power and handling agility. Besides, I want to know that I can smoke the crap out of the old guy that rides his 10-speed around my house. Though I'd bet he can stop in a shorter distance than I could.
Carry on!
As an aside, I do think acceleration IS pretty important. Time slips and most pro races don't seem to showcase braking power and handling agility. Besides, I want to know that I can smoke the crap out of the old guy that rides his 10-speed around my house. Though I'd bet he can stop in a shorter distance than I could.
Carry on!
I had an 07 HR motor, and I now have the G37 with the 3.7 in it as well.
I am trading mine in for the 370Z with out a question.
The 3.7 is a wonde4rful motor, and has an outrageous power band.
I cannot wait to see what it is like in a lighter car, should be alot of fun.
I am trading mine in for the 370Z with out a question.
The 3.7 is a wonde4rful motor, and has an outrageous power band.
I cannot wait to see what it is like in a lighter car, should be alot of fun.
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There is no doubt the 370z is a better performer than the 350z, but the gains are not overly dramatic. The new interior is sure nice, but for some that is not a complete deal sealer.
As an HR owner, I don't regret my purchase at all. I have had my car for a year and a half now and have had a lot of fun. While I think the front end of the 370z is an improvement in styling, I am not wild about the rear or profile of the car and still prefer the more classy (IMO) lines of the 350z.
Maybe someday I would like a 370z, but I personally would never buy a first or second year model, and there are those that feel the same. If I did not buy my HR and waited till the 2011 370z, I would miss 4 years driving a great car. Some of us don't need the newest thing and don't mind waiting until the kinks are worked out.
As an HR owner, I don't regret my purchase at all. I have had my car for a year and a half now and have had a lot of fun. While I think the front end of the 370z is an improvement in styling, I am not wild about the rear or profile of the car and still prefer the more classy (IMO) lines of the 350z.
Maybe someday I would like a 370z, but I personally would never buy a first or second year model, and there are those that feel the same. If I did not buy my HR and waited till the 2011 370z, I would miss 4 years driving a great car. Some of us don't need the newest thing and don't mind waiting until the kinks are worked out.
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I'm afraid of re-stirring this pot....but with such a heated argument going on as to which car is faster....is it not clear to anyone that the 370z is not as much of a leap performance OR looks wise as we had all hoped? In my opinion, this shouldn't be a discussion. A next gen sports car should be much faster, handle much better, and look much nicer. Tough to do, but then thats why you have multi-billion dollar companies with teams of engineers working on every car.
The first 350s were not as fast as the 300TTs, same with 240s and 260s, so clearly this isn't Nissans overall design goal.
Nobody is saying the 370 won't be an amazing car. I'm sure it will. But its just not THAT big of a change...
The first 350s were not as fast as the 300TTs, same with 240s and 260s, so clearly this isn't Nissans overall design goal.
Nobody is saying the 370 won't be an amazing car. I'm sure it will. But its just not THAT big of a change...
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Unless I could get the 370z with a full Zele aero kit for a straight trade, I'm keeping my '07. Personally the stock front fascia looks weird and makes the headlights look off, same with the rear. Zele really did a good job on their aero parts. I'd also have to change the wheels right away. I'm not saying this to hate it's just what I think.
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Ah the 1970,71,72,73 240z and the 74 260z.The 260 was slower(smog control,weight,etc.) than the 240.I had a new 72 240z.
For anyone who is new this is what is (still!! ) happening;
*DE owners are getting their revenge on HR guys, stirring them up telling them that their car is dated, slow and that they should never have bought it. Though virtually each and every one of them was aware of the 370z comming
*Proud HR owners think their car is faster than the 370z. It is not.
*Reasonable HR owners are stating that the 09 370z isn't worth an upgrade over the HR 350z due to first year bugs, performance increase being minor, styling being questionable and the amount of money lost isn't worth the nicer interior.
*DE owners can't possibly believe that, so they keeps stirring, accusing HR owners of not accepting change and being jealous and envious.
*DE owners justify their 'jealousy' position by saying that most of the hate of the 370z comes from HR guys so they must be jealous.
* HR owners realise that the biggest part of the 350z community that will upgrade is most likely to be the 03-05s, so maybe it's the DE owners who are trying to justify their upgrade?
This is what happens in every 370 vs 350 thread, can't we be friends? Hugs and kisses anyone?
) happening;*DE owners are getting their revenge on HR guys, stirring them up telling them that their car is dated, slow and that they should never have bought it. Though virtually each and every one of them was aware of the 370z comming
*Proud HR owners think their car is faster than the 370z. It is not.
*Reasonable HR owners are stating that the 09 370z isn't worth an upgrade over the HR 350z due to first year bugs, performance increase being minor, styling being questionable and the amount of money lost isn't worth the nicer interior.
*DE owners can't possibly believe that, so they keeps stirring, accusing HR owners of not accepting change and being jealous and envious.
*DE owners justify their 'jealousy' position by saying that most of the hate of the 370z comes from HR guys so they must be jealous.
* HR owners realise that the biggest part of the 350z community that will upgrade is most likely to be the 03-05s, so maybe it's the DE owners who are trying to justify their upgrade?
This is what happens in every 370 vs 350 thread, can't we be friends? Hugs and kisses anyone?
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For anyone who is new this is what is (still!! ) happening;
*DE owners are getting their revenge on HR guys, stirring them up telling them that their car is dated, slow and that they should never have bought it. Though virtually each and every one of them was aware of the 370z comming
*Proud HR owners think their car is faster than the 370z. It is not.
*Reasonable HR owners are stating that the 09 370z isn't worth an upgrade over the HR 350z due to first year bugs, performance increase being minor, styling being questionable and the amount of money lost isn't worth the nicer interior.
*DE owners can't possibly believe that, so they keeps stirring, accusing HR owners of not accepting change and being jealous and envious.
*DE owners justify their 'jealousy' position by saying that most of the hate of the 370z comes from HR guys so they must be jealous.
* HR owners realise that the biggest part of the 350z community that will upgrade is most likely to be the 03-05s, so maybe it's the DE owners who are trying to justify their upgrade?
This is what happens in every 370 vs 350 thread, can't we be friends? Hugs and kisses anyone?
) happening;*DE owners are getting their revenge on HR guys, stirring them up telling them that their car is dated, slow and that they should never have bought it. Though virtually each and every one of them was aware of the 370z comming
*Proud HR owners think their car is faster than the 370z. It is not.
*Reasonable HR owners are stating that the 09 370z isn't worth an upgrade over the HR 350z due to first year bugs, performance increase being minor, styling being questionable and the amount of money lost isn't worth the nicer interior.
*DE owners can't possibly believe that, so they keeps stirring, accusing HR owners of not accepting change and being jealous and envious.
*DE owners justify their 'jealousy' position by saying that most of the hate of the 370z comes from HR guys so they must be jealous.
* HR owners realise that the biggest part of the 350z community that will upgrade is most likely to be the 03-05s, so maybe it's the DE owners who are trying to justify their upgrade?
This is what happens in every 370 vs 350 thread, can't we be friends? Hugs and kisses anyone?
I'm a happy DE owner by the way
*Proud HR owners think their car is faster than the 370z. It is not.
I'm a proud HR owner and I know the 370z is faster, not by alot, but it's faster.
*Reasonable HR owners are stating that the 09 370z isn't worth an upgrade over the HR 350z due to first year bugs, performance increase being minor, styling being questionable and the amount of money lost isn't worth the nicer interior.
that would be correct, especially for the NISMO Z owners, we consider it a downgrade.