GL Thanks for all the CF Hatch help.. BTW..

 

750 on SP's mustang dyno would be very solid as it reads like a dyno dynamics

 

+1

As long as it stays under 769rwhp Randy!!!!!!! JK

Tom

 

Well???????? updates?

 

Sorry for the delay guys but tuning will be taking place today as per Larry.
I am not there so I can only hope its getting done and I will get results later on today.
I will keep you posted. If all goes well, tomorrow is cold start tuning and the car will be done. That's when I fly out to SP and drive the beast home.

 

No problem Jay. Glad to see it all worked out. Welcome to the CF hatch club! Lol.

 

Well on a really crappy tune (WAYYY too rich) the car made 640 on pump alone at 19 psi. With a good tune that should be much higher. In addition I think Larry has intentions of going up to 21 psi of boost. So who knows whats in store. I am leaving him in control of the car. I just requested multiple boost maps.
Low Boost (maybe spring pressure --> 1 bar)
Mid Boost
High Boost with Methanol

So far SP has:
Installed the CAN Gauge
Installed a Meth Kit Boost pressure sensor so the car will drop down to a safer map if the meth runs out.
Linked the meth kit to the ProEFI
Changed Spark plugs - since the last map made them flood out
He also installed a Boost Pressure Control **** (like a radio volume ****), so I can control the boost as I would like. ---> Sweeeet!

Tuning is next. I will update as Larry lets me know.

 

Very nice Randy

Didn't know your car was at SP
Let us know how it goes

 

And you wondered if you picked the right shop for the tune???

considering Alberto made upwards of 7xxrwhp on 18G's, I'd certainly hope the 20g's make more.

tom

 

Working out a couple of bugs. Delays are my life story. I'll get back to you when I get some info.

 

A friend of mine slipped his carbonetics triple on the dyno with the 25G's arond 650whp, he has also 4.2L stroker. I will try to get more info and post them here.

 

With proper supporting mods and fuel, the 20's will be capable of well over 700 whp, and probably up around the 800 whp range. That said, no matter what turbos you have, you are not going to get there on pump gas with a 3.5L motor spinning in the rpm ranges we operate (at least not for long). The limitation is the octane rating of the fuel, not the turbos!!!

For instance, I got over 600 whp (Mustang dyno) with 18G's at 17.5 psi on 93 octane. We had some headroom, but decided not to push it. It did not appear that we were anywhere near maxing out the turbos, however. Our limitation was the gas. That same limitation would have been there no matter what turbos we ran.

That said, you need to check the compressor maps for your turbos to ensure that you are not operating significantly out of the peak efficiency region. If you do, your intake air temperature will get a little high, which will decrease your ultimate HP potential. I have reviewed the compressor map for the 20G and there does not appear to be any issue with using these in a twin turbo setup on a 3.5L motor from getting well north of 700 whp. Again, you will need more than 93 octane to get there, or you will risk blowing the motor. This will be the case with any turbo you run, no matter how big the turbo is.

If you run twin 20G's with C16 or Q16, 700 whp should be a piece of cake. Using a whole lot of meth injection also may get you there. (This is based on my experience on a Mustang dyno, with a DJ I believe that it will be even easier).

 

Thats the plan Terry. I have a Meth kit installed.

 

^^^^

Awsome! I can't wait to see it. I have great confidence you will get there.

EDIT: I'm assuming the clutch is up to snuff. What clutch do you have?

 

What ever happend to the Forced Performance 35r wheels in the 18g?

 

any new results, or are you still waiting on the full swap to E85?

 

Well, unfortunately it turned out to be a whole lot more than just the Flex Fuel System install. I needed a complete motor rebuild. Bearing material discovered in the oil while base tuning. Should be done by end of the month (Feb) I hope.

(BTW the Flex Fuel swap is roughly about 1 hour labor to install. Just FYI for those wondering about the time and work involved to install. Its only $559 too.)


Look for news around then.

 

When I saw the above I figured as much. Sorry to hear. Not sure why spun bearings seem to be such a hurdle on new motor builds...

 

Builder issues normally.....

tom

 

wow that's crazy. This is the motor you built a few years ago though right (as part of your DIY??)? I guess you didnt notice anything that may have contributed to a spun bearing?