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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MrEous
Just saying, a 6/10th is a big difference in the quarter mile and have the trap virtually unaffected. A claimed 12whp gain should increase both times and traps. Don't get me wrong, I've been an nwp supporter for awhile, just think the big time difference and no trap difference is strange.

(I have the SSIM as well but consistently ran high 13s with crappy 2.3 60's...trapping 101. This is before 4" intake/maf and any tuning)
I agree with you I was surprised myself with the times and the trap not changing. More power usually means more mph.

Reason why I had him run on the same side when he had the stock TB. If we had time it was going to be removed and then ran again.

The time to switch out TBs and run after switching was 30-45min so the car was cooled down.
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 09:37 PM
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Well I just ordered one I will let you guys know if theres any gains dyno day at a local shop is july 21st
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 11:17 PM
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Cold hard facts !

Will you be tuning on that dyno day or just three pulls ?
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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Cold hard facts !

Will you be tuning on that dyno day or just three pulls ?
Most likely just pulls unless he lets me do a quick tune since im friends with him

either way ill post rresuts nwp claims 15hp with no tuning so well see if thats true or not

Im hoping for the best because my car is just about maxed out on street tires only thing I can do now is add power im trying ti get to the 25th spot in the drag forum lol
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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im gonna pick one up. i sent them a message asking them if its better if i bore out the spacer and plenum to 75mm or leave the taper.

if it is 15hp for 360, that aint bad. the de could use some top end.
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Old Jul 13, 2013 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by XChacalX
As long as the rest of the exhaust/intake system can flow enough, I say that 15whp gain is possible on the rev-up and/or bigger cams.
Agreed^^^

So I have a 2006 nonrev, and would love to believe NWP facebook claims of 12-32whp @ 5200-5800rpm, slap-on stock, no tune, TB solution. But didn't SGM really already prove this out for nonrev's.


Didn't they prove the biggest airflow restriction was the radial turn in the stock plenum when they fabbed a plenum with topside velocity stack?

Once they worked around that, their car was already running a big race cam profile + LTH....then tuned. Really isn't it all a symphony between AirIntake, correctly matched cam profile, and exhaust outlet sizing complimenting the two? They come as a team, no?

I don't see how larger intake stack, MAF housings, tubing, throttle bodies...solve the plenum design issue. The front door is only so big, and if you solve that then your nonrev is hostage to the smaller stock intake cam spec.

Logically I don't understand how NWP would get (or claim) these same SGM results without the other internal mods.

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Old Jul 13, 2013 | 06:00 PM
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I believe SG proved the TB was a restriction, next was the elbow.
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Old Jul 13, 2013 | 06:06 PM
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Did SG do 3.5 from y pipe back or axle back?
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Old Jul 13, 2013 | 08:17 PM
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I think Kels had a 3.5" straight pipe from the Y. The orange roadster (revup) ran a Nismo S-tune cat back.
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Rice
Agreed^^^

So I have a 2006 nonrev, and would love to believe NWP facebook claims of 12-32whp @ 5200-5800rpm, slap-on stock, no tune, TB solution. But didn't SGM really already prove this out for nonrev's.

SG-Motorsport VQ35 Intake Testing - YouTube

Didn't they prove the biggest airflow restriction was the radial turn in the stock plenum when they fabbed a plenum with topside velocity stack?

Once they worked around that, their car was already running a big race cam profile + LTH....then tuned. Really isn't it all a symphony between AirIntake, correctly matched cam profile, and exhaust outlet sizing complimenting the two? They come as a team, no?

I don't see how larger intake stack, MAF housings, tubing, throttle bodies...solve the plenum design issue. The front door is only so big, and if you solve that then your nonrev is hostage to the smaller stock intake cam spec.

Logically I don't understand how NWP would get (or claim) these same SGM results without the other internal mods.
I don't know if SG singled out the turn in the stock plenum and state that was the issue. If anything they showed that the stock plenum doesn't flow as much as most thought by increasing the overall volume (pretty much to infinite because they eventually opened the plenum and went ITBs).

But yeah, I agree that everything works in conjunction. I still don't understand how changing just the throttle body will yield gains without at least changing the pipe size prior to the throttle body (Bernoulli's principle). I raised this question earlier but was not given a satisfactory answer.
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 09:48 AM
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Just like PPEs with a DE.
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 11:01 PM
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I just saw this on their IG Account...looks promising. I wanna see some reviews before jumping on it...
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
just measured, I stand corrected. The MAF sensor housing is still 65mm and the choke point
65mm seems really small... is this the inner diameter of the maf tube?

I've read that it's 2.75" in other posts.
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by VQ35er
65mm seems really small... is this the inner diameter of the maf tube?

I've read that it's 2.75" in other posts.
Yup, that is the ID.

My TB will be installed in the next couple days. JUst need my custom intake made because of the MAF housing.
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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 09:49 PM
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Just got mine in and 100% plug and play and not dynoed yet but as far as driving around feels good. I have an 06 revup g35 6mt would recommend getting it for what it cost price if cheap IMO
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
I believe SG proved the TB was a restriction, next was the elbow.
based on my extensive testing of various intake manifold/intake tube/throttle body configurations i agree with this wholeheartedly.
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dcampos662
Just got mine in and 100% plug and play and not dynoed yet but as far as driving around feels good. I have an 06 revup g35 6mt would recommend getting it for what it cost price if cheap IMO
Do you plan on doing a before/after dyno?
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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Just ordered mine! Hopefully it'll be here by the end of the week.

I'll let you guys know how it feels on my Revup.

Here are my engine mods currently:
Furookie Intake
Non-Resonated 2.5" Test Pipes
Invidia Gemini Exhaust
Motordyne 5/16 Iso Thermal Plenum Spacer
Motordyne MREV+ Intake Manifold
Motordyne Copper Iso Thermal Upgrade
Cobb AccessPort
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 01:14 PM
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How it feels or an actual dyno? "Feel" is more or less worthless.
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 03:20 PM
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dynos are more or less worthless unless you know how to read them also. everyone around here seems to look for these powerband wide gains for some reason. if a mod doesnt gain everywhere then the thing seems to get frowned upon. you guys need to figure your speed per gear span looks like and figure out what rpm range you need to optimize if you want to go as fast as possible when at wot. this mod actually makes power up top, where the stock de intake fails to. ive been running this mod over a year. its solid! i spent way, way more than they are selling it for, having certain unappreciated items fabricated when they weren't common. i gained a lot with it and my custom 3.5" intake. there was also some plenum throat enlarging and short turn radius porting that i did at the same time. that said i was more impressed with the datalogged gains i got with the 3.5" intake vs the tb... i wish id tried it in reverse just to see if there was any difference. regardless there is a huge restriction in the stock plenum turnaround, the throttle body and the intake tube diameter. i fixed them all separately so i could see what was making the most difference, but its really easy to just fix them all at once. the parts are out there!
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