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Old 07-24-2013, 11:33 AM
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Just got my flange in the mail from NWP. As someone who has been a manufacturer and customer in the Nissan domain for over 10 years now, I can say that this is a pretty well put together kit. Nice job, guys!

I'll see if I can bolt this up before the weekend and do some datalogging. I've got a 75mm TB that I'm modifying the throttle shaft on, and I've got some connectors that I'll use to make my own wiring adapter. Car is 05 revup with Nismo headers, stock cats, and Nismo S-tune exhaust... plus uprev.
Old 07-26-2013, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
I don't know if SG singled out the turn in the stock plenum and state that was the issue. If anything they showed that the stock plenum doesn't flow as much as most thought by increasing the overall volume (pretty much to infinite because they eventually opened the plenum and went ITBs).

But yeah, I agree that everything works in conjunction. I still don't understand how changing just the throttle body will yield gains without at least changing the pipe size prior to the throttle body (Bernoulli's principle). I raised this question earlier but was not given a satisfactory answer.
It's because the basics of the principle imply no frictional losses. The real thing isn't a lossless system. Pressure drop occurs across obstructions in the flow path. It's a bigger deal with more viscous fluids like water, but pressure drop also occurs to the skin friction on the walls of the pipe. It's a drop in pressure lost to friction, and not to flow velocity. All else being equal, if the pipe diameter were to return to the same size prior to some loss, the pressure would still be less.

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Old 07-26-2013, 07:52 PM
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Here's my review: https://my350z.com/forum/intake-exha...dy-review.html
Old 07-27-2013, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick 6MT
Thanks for the thorough review. Now we just need someone to start producing a good plenum.
Old 07-27-2013, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by David_2613
Thanks for the thorough review. Now we just need someone to start producing a good plenum.
I'm really thinking about getting a Kinetic SSV or w hat ever it's called and modding it
Old 07-28-2013, 02:52 AM
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just realized they are charging $75 for the wire adapter. its only 290 with out it.

i think 75 is a little steep.
Old 07-28-2013, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by freddys 350z
just realized they are charging $75 for the wire adapter. its only 290 with out it.

i think 75 is a little steep.
They aren't really making money on the other stuff gotta make somewhere and honestly the overall price is still cheap for the gains
Old 07-28-2013, 07:41 AM
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the list price for the vendor they get them from is $80
Old 07-28-2013, 08:33 AM
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Yea 75 is a awesome deal for the adaptor wire. I paid 100 a year ago when I did this mod and had to wait 2 weeks for it cause at the time it wasn't off the shelf
Old 07-28-2013, 08:36 AM
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Even paying $100 for the wiring I only have $240 in everything since I slotted my holes instead of using a adaptor plate
Old 07-28-2013, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 2bad240
Even paying $100 for the wiring I only have $240 in everything since I slotted my holes instead of using a adaptor plate
What are you running for an intake now?
Old 07-28-2013, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Pholicious
They aren't really making money on the other stuff gotta make somewhere and honestly the overall price is still cheap for the gains
im still waiting for a dyno to pop up from a third party to comfirm the gains. dont wanna pay 400 for 3hp.
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Originally Posted by Pholicious
What are you running for an intake now?
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Old 07-29-2013, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
I'm really thinking about getting a Kinetic SSV or w hat ever it's called and modding it
Denchan has this mod too..he hasn't dyno'd yet but he DID trap his highest ever with it. It's the newer version, the Kinetix Velocity Manifold.

He is also cammed (JWT S1).
Old 07-29-2013, 05:31 AM
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2bad stock maf?

also is it 4" from TB down or 3" to 4"

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Old 07-29-2013, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
2bad stock maf?

also is it 4" from TB down or 3" to 4"
Stock sensor. I made a maf flange and welded it on the 4" pipe. It's 4" from tb to filter.

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Old 07-29-2013, 11:34 AM
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Cannon like stuff you guys are getting into....awesome
Old 07-29-2013, 12:29 PM
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The girth...oh what mighty girth. No homo you ***z!
Old 07-29-2013, 03:53 PM
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Here is the dyno chart Nwp posted. As far as peak power the big tb loses power. And is about the same mid range.
I'm not sure why that car drops off in power so early in the rpm range anyway. But I have heard there was something sketchy going on.
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:53 PM
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For one, if the 2006 in question is non-revup, then it's automatic. All 06 MT's were revup. The non-revup ones were AT. The low rev limit supports this.

Also, peak power means little. The red curve has a significant area under the curve advantage, especially at the top end where it matters.

One more thing. If you understand why a big throttle body would make power, because of lower pressure drop through it at high mass flow rates, then you would immediately ignore the mid-range left half of the graph anyways. If I wanted more power at 3500, I would downshift.


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