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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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You may get it cheaper: this 1500$ package also includes rear arms which I don't think you need?

shouldn't it be possible to just buy the front adj. control arms? I saw some for 500 and some for 800 I think.

Did anyone do this or is expert enough to tell whether this really helps long term the tire feathering?

Thanks for any answers from experts out there, I am not.
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DAYTONA-ZED
Nice, but damn thats expensive ($1500.00) to correct what should have come right from the factory in the first place.
I'm agree
but, does it really solve the problem of the feathering???
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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I may in the minority here but why spend good money on aftermarket components to solve an alignment problem? My car wore tires unevenly I had the TSB performed got new tires and was 100% satisfied with the ride and drive after, and it didn't cost me anything but time to drop off the car...
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pedroosan
You may get it cheaper: this 1500$ package also includes rear arms which I don't think you need?

shouldn't it be possible to just buy the front adj. control arms? I saw some for 500 and some for 800 I think.
True , i think i saw another package that was in the $800.00 range.
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BigNDFW
I may in the minority here but why spend good money on aftermarket components to solve an alignment problem? My car wore tires unevenly I had the TSB performed got new tires and was 100% satisfied with the ride and drive after, and it didn't cost me anything but time to drop off the car...
Well its true , time is money. I cannot afford to take a day from work to let the f*cktards at my service dept keep my car all day just to tell me they will not cover a TSB.
Not sure about others ,but getting my dealership service dept to even do a TSB fix on the drive's seat was useless. They b*tched and moaned about having to justify the fix to nissan and basically refused to do the fix. Same results on the rough idle condition. They are the only nissan game in town, as the next nissan dealership is at leat 50 miles away. I won't even let them change the oil even though i have an oil change service contract. Anytime ive taken my Z to be checked because of a problem its been a huge waste of time.

Im sure there are good service depts out there. Somewhere.
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BigNDFW
I may in the minority here but why spend good money on aftermarket components to solve an alignment problem? My car wore tires unevenly I had the TSB performed got new tires and was 100% satisfied with the ride and drive after, and it didn't cost me anything but time to drop off the car...

what is TSB ???? in spain we don't know anythig about that.
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Z power
what is TSB ???? in spain we don't know anythig about that.
By way of explanation, TSB = Technical Service Bulletin. This is a document issued by Nissan North America to acknowledge and correct a fault in a car delivered in North America. Equivalent to an Airworthiness Directive in the airplane business.
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ChinaClipper
By way of explanation, TSB = Technical Service Bulletin. This is a document issued by Nissan North America to acknowledge and correct a fault in a car delivered in North America. Equivalent to an Airworthiness Directive in the airplane business.

ok, thanks
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 02:51 AM
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Hi Guys,

I'm lookin' at waiting to buy my first Z until the 2006 facelift model comes through...

Will the tire feathering be fixed by then, or is it fixed now...?


I WILL NOT buy if I have any doubt...


Please advise...
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ANZAC350Z
Hi Guys,

I'm lookin' at waiting to buy my first Z until the 2006 facelift model comes through...

Will the tire feathering be fixed by then, or is it fixed now...?


I WILL NOT buy if I have any doubt...


Please advise...
There have been rumblings about the 05 year getting a fix. Different front suspension design or modification perhaps?
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DAYTONA-ZED
There have been rumblings about the 05 year getting a fix. Different front suspension design or modification perhaps?
I think those rumblings were the sounds of tires feathering.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 02:59 AM
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Well, I went to my local dealer (Brisbane, Queensland, Australia), and had a chat 'bout the tire thing...

I showed him the web site pages from various U.S. sites...

Now, his comment to me was, like - 'The Z was built in Japan to be a right hand drive (like Australia)... and that the geomentry changes when it gets set up for the U.S. Interesting, eh?

Also of the eight (yup only eight) he's sold in the last six-nine months, he has not heard of the problem. And some mad chef who bought one, got 80,000 kilometers (50K miles) from the front set...

Maybe the set-up for the U.S. was up-set?

I'm trying to find a site here in Oz where I can get more info.... Anybody know?


I noticed however, that the Z they had on their lot had the newly modded Bridgestones shod - (where they closed up the gap bit where the feathering was at its worst), I've seen pics here on the before and after Bridgee tires...

I would really like to get to the bottom of this one - its a secret all right...


Tks,

Phil
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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after reporting my feathering problem to NNA, i received a letter from Nissan stating that they acknowledge the problem and is extending the warrenty to 3 yr unlimited milage...

Looks like i will be getting another set of front tire possibly a different set of re040a?

i hope this will be it... hate to think of next year... will i have this problem again... ha!
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LeMansZCa
after reporting my feathering problem to NNA, i received a letter from Nissan stating that they acknowledge the problem and is extending the warrenty to 3 yr unlimited milage...

Looks like i will be getting another set of front tire possibly a different set of re040a?

i hope this will be it... hate to think of next year... will i have this problem again... ha!
I reads some article in a online auto mag about nissan covering the 04 tire problem like the 03. Supposedly letters or notices will be sent out concerning this.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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I can't find that comparison photo showing the old vs. new tread of the RE040's. Does anyone have it handy?

Also, is there a visible model# on the tire that distinguishes the two?

Wondering if I have the new or old design...
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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The 3yr extension is just another bandaid... The car has a problem and just replacing the tires does not fix it. If I read the letter correctly, I can't put different tires on my car because if the shitty suspension setup makes them "feather" then they are not covered.

I should sue them just because of that...

What a load of crap... I can't put different tires / wheels on because the shitty design will cause the tires to wear, which won't be covered. Why is this acceptable??????
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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Local dealer, under NNA instructions, replaced my front tires for the third time in May. The tires are the 'new' design. 5,000 miles later, feathering. While it is not as pronounced as on the original tire design, it is still apparant. I believe this new design will effectively mask the noise issue as well as the feathering issue well enough for NNA to ignore it.

A question for any one out there involved in the automotive quality jungle. If you are prodicing a product that has a feature which has random and widely spread data points isn't this cnsidered an out of control process?
Specifically, as I understand it:
A)some Zs do not have this issue
B)some have the issue but are fixed with the alingment adjustmen
C)others have the issue and are not fixed with the alingment but combine the alingment with the 'new' tire design the issue is resolved
D) finaly the Zs that do not respond to any of the above and fether and feather and feather

Is this perchance simply a manufacturing process control issue??
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by neo
The 3yr extension is just another bandaid... The car has a problem and just replacing the tires does not fix it. If I read the letter correctly, I can't put different tires on my car because if the shitty suspension setup makes them "feather" then they are not covered.

I should sue them just because of that...

What a load of crap... I can't put different tires / wheels on because the shitty design will cause the tires to wear, which won't be covered. Why is this acceptable??????
Got the letter today. They should send that out with every copy of THE RUN video. Call it THE LETTER. I just skim read it and threw it away. Nissan has wasted enough of my time already.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DAYTONA-ZED
Got the letter today. They should send that out with every copy of THE RUN video. Call it THE LETTER. I just skim read it and threw it away. Nissan has wasted enough of my time already.
Humm - Gee I'll have to look at the Mail

Any one interested about the test of putting a Fresh set of
Stock of 18" 350Z Wheels/Tires on a Maxima and seeing how they held up?

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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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I looked threw the last few pages of this thread and the post before me says something about THE LETTER...i got a letter the day before yesturday and it says that all 2003 models will have unlimited miles for free alignment tune ups...and if i have already bought new tires then i might be able to get reimbursed for them.
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