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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 09:14 PM
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Default Quality spacer kit like V2s found for $80!



Here on e bay. These are the 25MM..they also have 17mm and 15MM (unless the 17 is some kind of mistake?)
Billet hub centric with pressed in studs..turn key! These
are quality..scroll down for their pics.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HUBCE...item256621da5d

Here's 30MM for $85:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HUBCE...item2312b950b3

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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 10:47 PM
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Here is a recent review thread from G35 driver:
Looks good.

http://g35driver.com/forums/g35-coup...el-spacer.html
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 05:11 AM
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install instructions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYnE_frPAJI
looks pretty damn simple. now back to the thread to see how much clearance i can get away with on stock suspension and rims without doing a roll.

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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 05:43 AM
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ripped from another thread and thought id contribute. Alot of g35 owners do not liek Ichiba.
http://g35driver.com/forums/g35-coup...el-spacer.html
saying its an inferior product and best to go with proselection ebay ones that are hubcentric. set of 4 is also 60$ less. hmm i think ill bite on those.
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Originally Posted by briin79
install instructions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYnE_frPAJI
looks pretty damn simple. now back to the thread to see how much clearance i can get away with on stock suspension and rims without doing a roll.
What size spacer were those? I ordered 15 and those might leave the bolts protruding. It's OK if the bolts extend on stock wheels due to *pockets* or spaces to take up any extension of the bolts. What I'm wondering is...will the SPARE TIRE make it on also, or does the spacer (if bolts extend) need to be removed for the spare?
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 01:28 PM
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Default Spare tire and 15MM spacer question

I assume a 15mm spacer is going to leave the lug bolts extending out some (I have stock wheels so I'm ok). Ok...what about putting on the SPARE WHEEL?
Are the studs gonna hit? If so, I guess would have to remove the spacer then.

Oh..I searched on this...no dice.

Edited:
Just pulled the spare (this is new car for me)..
Looks like exposed studs on 15MM spacer will interfere with the spare. No biggy...
Just gotta pull it off.

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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 03:23 PM
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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Default Heads up on spare tire

For those who have 15MM spacers or extended lugs with smaller spacers (lugs protruding beyond spacer).....
If you plan on using your spare wheel you'll need to remove the spacer!

You should plan on keeping the proper SPACER socket in your car..I think most use a 17MM thin wall socket..some use the special keyed socket.

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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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yep, to use a spare, a spacer under 25mm thick will need to come off.....

review my post 6 and 7 for oem studs sticking PAST the surface plane of a spacer that is less than 25mm thick..

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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonZ-YA
IF YOU EVER RUN INTO THE ISSUE OF HAVING TO REPLACE THE LUG NUTS THAT COME WITH YOUR SPACERS!

I for one cant stand the ichiba "KEY" the one with 4 prongs that break!? ya, you know the ones.....


Do your wheels have gaps??? -- Because if so, you can go to a local tire shop and purchase really short replacement hex nuts - nuts that use a typical 17mm socket and not deal with stoopid keys! so long as they fit in the gaps of the wheels..........Review post #5


local -

Your gonna have to try all the mom and pop shops and see what they have........i have found them, but its not something they carry, its just something they have acquired over the years so to speak..

UPDATE:
I found that Gorilla has the lug nuts I use on my 25mm spacers: !

Ensure all the measurements will work for you and pick and choose!
go to:
http://www.gorilla-auto.com/lug.nuts.page_05
I use those for my thicker spacers only!!! i use these below for my thiner ones!

ALSO,

see the ones above that i use "ACORN BULGE OPEN END" - notice how they have a "Bulge" on them..........NO MATTER WHAT!! i always use a thin wall socket.....
see how these also have a "BULGE" to STOP the socket:



You want the "BULGE" on the nut so that the socket doesn't spin and hit the inside wall of the spacer and gouge out the spacer.........that will lead in spacer failure!!!

Notice how the failure node was the thinest section of aluminum between the bolt holes:

Thats what we call net area - tension failure.....



aside from gorilla that are 21mm tall(.825) i have found these that are 16.5mm tall:

I like to use these lug nuts.....they use a 17mm hex socket to install them and are M12x1.25 of course.

They are 16.5mm tall:


MY350z.com VENDOR MIKE@CZP has the capability to get them for $2.00 each!!!!!
SEE HERE:

https://my350z.com/forum/8643797-post224.html


Also found THIS SITE TO SELL INDIVIDUAL LUG NUTS FOR SPACERS but they are 5 bucks each!!!
http://www.upgrademotoring.com/wheels/whl_acc.htm
on the UPGRADEMOTORING.COM site, they are right below the project kic 4 prong picture...

There is no picture shown for them- the description states:

Project KICS Special Lug Nuts to bolt on their spacers to your car. For 20mm, 25mm, and 30mm thick spacers. 20-30mm Spacer lugs are only 16.5mm tall. Please specify 12x1.5mm or 12x1.25mm. Standard 17mm Head. 12x1.25mm BUY NOW! 12x1.50mm BUY NOW!
When you click on the appropriate link, they are ITEM NUMBER:
Item #: WHLKICWKKYSLN20125

But i would recommend mike@CZP for sure!!!

The next ones i found are these:

They are 11.5mm tall!!!! use a 17mm hex socket also.
Contact vendor M-motorsports - vendor here on our site:
https://my350z.com/forum/members/139...torsports.html
Also $2.00 each with flat $9 shipping from overseas.



Oh, and i figured you guys would want to know what smart puppy I have been referring too.........

sorry...here..



-J
This is very good info and I have decided to *bump* it and make some comments on my spacer install today. I used a 15MM kit with studs already pressed in like V2 kit, etc. It was the E bay kit and good quality and fit..hub centric. Ok..as you point out..the nuts are shallow..16.5 so they recess into the holes a little. Now if you require that..ie...your aftermarket wheels have no *spaces* (pockets) to accomodate any protusions...then you will need the shallow nuts. What I found is that these nuts have VERY short 17mm heads and are prone to stripping, especially if your torquing to 80ft lbs!
I also recommend the SIX POINT HEX socket..I used a multi point (12 or more)
socket and that doesn't cover enough of each corner of the head. So these two factors can lead to rounding off of the head!
If, like me your wheels have spaces for protrusions of nuts/lugs..or a 20mm spacer (mine is 15), then I would suggest getting the Gorilla 17mm/ .82" long version, since the HEAD is thicker (taller) and less prone to stripping. Of course the head will protrude (I think) slightly above a 15MM or smaller spacer
which really won't matter in my case.

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^ yes!!! good you brought that up....

I always use 6 point sockets and i take my sweet time, making sure im dead on the nut and holding the end of my torque wrench with no angle at all, but perfectly 90 degrees to the nut when tightening, then torquing them to spec...

Cant believe i forgot to mention that.........but good catch! thanks for posting!

ya, if you dont need the shallow nuts and your wheels have the spaces(pockets or voids) behind the wheel then by all means use the bigger nuts and ensure a good quality torque and easy install and removability...

I only use the shallow nuts ONLY when i have too...

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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ronn1
I assume a 15mm spacer is going to leave the lug bolts extending out some (I have stock wheels so I'm ok). Ok...what about putting on the SPARE WHEEL?
Are the studs gonna hit? If so, I guess would have to remove the spacer then.

Oh..I searched on this...no dice.

Edited:
Just pulled the spare (this is new car for me)..
Looks like exposed studs on 15MM spacer will interfere with the spare. No biggy...
Just gotta pull it off.
Just go with a 15mm slip on spacer, then you don't have to worry about anything. 20mm and smaller should all be a slip on spacer. If you need something bigger, just buy new wheels.
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Just go with a 15mm slip on spacer, then you don't have to worry about anything. 20mm and smaller should all be a slip on spacer. If you need something bigger, just buy new wheels.
yes, I would agree......

only issue arrises when you have the need for spacers as thick as 25mm with some of your wheels....

on my car i have exteneded studs on the front of my Z only...in the rear i ONLY use V2 styled spacers, but up front depending on race and wheel selection im forced to use many different spacers sizes and had to change my set up.

On some of my wheels I even went as far as drilling 1/2" holes to accommodate the extended length of my hub mounted studs.......these wheels are drift wheels and i usually visually inspect the drilled holes for cracks and trash them if/as needed.........i no care, its all about tracking the car, so drilling holes in wheels is a fun times..

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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Just go with a 15mm slip on spacer, then you don't have to worry about anything. 20mm and smaller should all be a slip on spacer. If you need something bigger, just buy new wheels.
This is true..but then you need to install longer studs, which I didn't want to hastle with. What if you change wheels and decide to remove the spacer? I guess you would use longer nuts to cover over the studs (longer).

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Just for reference..

20mm H&R spacer w extended studs and extended lugs on a spare:

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^ usually open ended nuts..........when using longer studs and removing the spacer...

notice how the ones in the bottom right are open ended......



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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonZ-YA
^ usually open ended nuts..........when using longer studs and removing the spacer...

notice how the ones in the bottom right are open ended......



-J
wow..that would look pretty shitty..guess ya have to cut em then.
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How can you figure out what size hub centric ring to use?

Admins- can you please not merge this thread until I get an answer?
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1. z hub = 66.1
2. measure your ID of your aftermarket wheel.
3. buy hcr's that have ID 66.1 and OD of #2
4. dont buy plastic ones.

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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BYBYCOP
How can you figure out what size hub centric ring to use?

Admins- can you please not merge this thread until I get an answer?
Measuring aftermarket wheel may not be accurate. The specs on the hub bore are published and available. Most are 73.1...use the specs on the hub bore. As previous poster said, spec on the Z is 66.1.
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